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Yahweh 301,302 or Trinity 301,302

Trinity fact.

When a council of bishops convened by the Emperor Constantine in (280–337 AD) he decreed that the Father and Son were homoousios (same substance or essence.)

Christian trinity theology of that creed is rooted in the terminology of Augustine's, "On the Trinity." (published about 415 AD) It was about this time when it was determined that the Holy Spirit is a third person.
Yes. The homoousios was Constantine’s compromise for the split being those who believe Jesus is God and those who know Jesus is God’s begotten Son.

In this way there could be some common ground between those who interpret Jesus to be God and those who see Jesus is God’s Son. That’s where the idea of “of the same substance” comes in.

It actually backfired though. The joke of the Athanasian Creed is that it actually strips the trinity members of their deity and crowns the substance as the one God. It comes back to their being one god again, though misunderstood. Unitarianism is written between the lines of their creed and they don’t even know it yet.
 
Yes. The homoousios was Constantine’s compromise for the split being those who believe Jesus is God and those who know Jesus is God’s begotten Son.

Those who believe Jesus is God also know Jesus is the Son of God.

You are confused.
 
When Christ said he was "one" with the Father, he meant that they were in unity. We are also called to be "one" with the Father.

If Christ only meant one in unity in reference to purpose (not being), then why would the Jews want to stone Him?

What's so wrong about a person claiming to be on in purpose with the Father? How would that necessitate the demand that such a person be stoned to death?
 
If Christ only meant one in unity in reference to purpose (not being), then why would the Jews want to stone Him?

What's so wrong about a person claiming to be on in purpose with the Father? How would that necessitate the demand that such a person be stoned to death?


John 10
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.” (Speaking of unity)
31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, 32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be (God / elohiym.”)

The Jews were speaking in Hebrew, not Greek. The Jews did not believe Christ was a elohiym from heaven.
A elohiym is a (god-s of "The Living One.""


John 6:38
For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.


Genesis 2:24
That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

Matthew 19:5
and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?

Matthew 19:6
So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

Mark 10:8
and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one flesh.


John 17:11
I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.

John 17:21
that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

John 17:22
I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—
 
John 17:11
I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.

John 17:21
that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

John 17:22
I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—
Yes and the disciples did not become God. Therefore Jesus didn’t become God. That’s the problem these verses create for the trinity doctrine and why most trins will either ignore them or argue against them.
 
Yes and the disciples did not become God. Therefore Jesus didn’t become God. That’s the problem these verses create for the trinity doctrine and why most trins will either ignore them or argue against them.

Total nonsense on your part.
 
Total nonsense on your part.
Thanks for proving my point. I see nothing of value was lost putting you on ignore. Now then, let's resume. Adios.
 
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