Tribulation (the sort John was experiencing at the time of writing Revelation which all believers experience in various degrees and times), is not to be confused with Daniels 70th week which is also known as the Great Tribulation or Jacob's Trouble a seven year period at the end of this age prior to Christ's return to earth.
But that’s just what you believe which is opposite to what the text actually says , it says that the rock struck the toes and feet of the statue and then the i gold silver and bronze were destroyed along with the iron and clay
Yes, the imagery reveals that the whole of the Gentile rulership is finished when Jesus deals with the world`s armies. We know from God`s word that He judged each of the first four kingdoms as they are no longer ruling. Dan. 5: 26 - 31 is a good example.
I think we should hold this discussion for its own thread as it has been pointed out it is not in line with the OP.
Yes. Add Matthew 24 as another text that talks about the Great Tribulation.
Daniel's 70th week expired back in AD 37. We know that the "Great tribulation" period was going to be launched with the Abomination of desolation - aka "Jerusalem surrounded by armies", at which time the disciples were to flee Judea and Jerusalem and head for the mountains.
What the text says is that there is one hit by the rock that shows that all of the kingdoms are destroyed at once.
How about we start another thread on this specific topic?
So John was enduring the Trumpet and Bowl Judgments of the Book he was to write?
No, John was enduring the "beginning of sorrows" period Christ mentioned in Matthew 24:8 just BEFORE the "Great Tribulation" described in Matthew 24:15-28 cranked up in AD 66. That "beginning of sorrows" period would involve the disciples being "hated by all nations" for Christ's sake, which was definitely true in the AD 57-60 period of time John was in. The Asian Gentiles as well as the Asian Jews hostile to the faith were persecuting Christians at that time.
That depends on what the Bible is referencing as fulfilled. The fulfilment of the prophecies that say salvation will come to all nations; or does it mean until the last Gentile has come in; or does it mean the end of the Gentiles trampling Jerusalem?
YES. Kudos for emphasizing this pertinent fact that all the elements making up Daniel's statue were destroyed simultaneously with one blow by the rock kingdom.
It did, but 70a.d. ended once and for all the old covenant way of worship, the temple and the priesthood forever destroyed. Which was accomplished by Gentiles trampling Jerusalem.
Correct me if I am misunderstanding but are you saying the times of the Gentiles began at Pentecost and ended with the fall of Jerusalem in 70AD? The way I read the verse, it seems to me, the times of the Gentiles began in 70AD not found it's fulfillment.
This simultaneous destruction of ALL the elements making up Daniel's statue of those pagan empires mixed with the Israelite "clay" is NOT showing the destruction of the empires themselves. We know that those pagan empires passed at various times over the span of history, so this simultaneous destruction of ALL those elements making up the statue must be referring to something else that all those kingdoms had in common.
I would say...not yet ....but close.
Really????
Yes, really. Don't you remember reading the scripture texts in which God promised to destroy - not just the works of the Devil - but the Devil Himself and those fallen angelic hosts along with him so that they would no more exist? This has been a done deal since the AD 70 era.
Satan is still around.
That's not what God said.
That verse applied to Satan's "little season" of being released from the chain that bound his deception of the nations back in the first century. He was cast out of heaven down to earth at Christ's resurrection-day ascension in AD 33. That infuriated Satan had only a "short time" left to operate at that point, as John in Revelation 12:12 said that Satan was presently doing at the time John was writing Revelation. That "little season" didn't last past the AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem. God turned Satan into burned-up ashes on the earth by then, as Ezekiel 24:18-19 predicted for that formerly-anointed cherub. You are battling a long-dead enemy who no longer exists in this world.
