Daniel 9:24-27 Has Nothing to Do With End Times

[JustTheFacts]

I feel a bit silly posting the solution to Daniel 9:24-27 on the Eschatology page because it doesn't have anything to do with end times. I think I've already stated that there are no contradictions in the word of God. This means that Daniel and Revelation prophecy will fit together like a glove--the only difference being of course is that Daniel will ALSO describe the Kingdom of God on earth from Daniel's days to the New Covenant. There are three groups of sevens and it's referred to as the seventy sevens because in total there are seventy (62+7+1).

There are 36 sevens in Revelation and they point to something that is complete and perfect. Borrowing this meaning of a seven, the seventy sevens is the most perfect and complete prophecy ever to be written. There is only one subject that it can address--the Messiah. The seventy sevens tells the complete story of the Messiah. The 62 sevens predict the years between the last prophecy of the Messiah. The last prophecy of the Messiah in the Old Testament was Malachi 3:1-3, therefore there will be 62 x 7 years from that prophecy to the birth of Jesus. With Jesus being born around 6 BC, Malachi's prophecy is dated to 440 BC. Prophecy then went silent. The seven sevens exists along with the passing of the years, so there is only one possible solution to that--the seven seven is a reference to Jesus who has always existed. The final seven then is the mission of Jesus that will be split in half by the sacrifice of Jesus. The seven year mission of Jesus is defined through Daniel and Revelation with Daniel 12:11-12 and Revelation chapter twelve critical pieces to help solve the math.

Anyone want to take a stab at the math problem?

In summary though, seven year tribulation theology is nonsense.

 

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I feel a bit silly posting the solution to Daniel 9:24-27 on the Eschatology page because it doesn't have anything to do with end times. I think I've already stated that there are no contradictions in the word of God. This means that Daniel and Revelation prophecy will fit together like a glove--the only difference being of course is that Daniel will ALSO describe the Kingdom of God on earth from Daniel's days to the New Covenant. There are three groups of sevens and it's referred to as the seventy sevens because in total there are seventy (62+7+1).

There are 36 sevens in Revelation and they point to something that is complete and perfect. Borrowing this meaning of a seven, the seventy sevens is the most perfect and complete prophecy ever to be written. There is only one subject that it can address--the Messiah. The seventy sevens tells the complete story of the Messiah. The 62 sevens predict the years between the last prophecy of the Messiah. The last prophecy of the Messiah in the Old Testament was Malachi 3:1-3, therefore there will be 62 x 7 years from that prophecy to the birth of Jesus. With Jesus being born around 6 BC, Malachi's prophecy is dated to 440 BC. Prophecy then went silent. The seven sevens exists along with the passing of the years, so there is only one possible solution to that--the seven seven is a reference to Jesus who has always existed. The final seven then is the mission of Jesus that will be split in half by the sacrifice of Jesus. The seven year mission of Jesus is defined through Daniel and Revelation with Daniel 12:11-12 and Revelation chapter twelve critical pieces to help solve the math.

Anyone want to take a stab at the math problem?

In summary though, seven year tribulation theology is nonsense.

I agree that the seven year tribulation DOCTRINE (teaching) is not at all biblically sound. But you begin the OP by stating something that is untrue. That the seventy sevens of Dan 9 is the most perfect prophecy ever given. All prophecy by God is perfect. And Dan 7, like much of the prophetic writings, deals with something in the immediate future for Israel----their return from Babylon to Jerusalem. It then moves farther into the future, and ultimately to the crucifixion of Jesus and then to the consummation of his victory on the cross. The math does not matter.

I am not inclined to offer up a complete breakdown of Dan 7. I will leave that to a non-dispensationalist to do if any are so inclined.

I surmise that you do not see anything eschatalogical about your post because you are using this one set of scriptures as your proof that Jesus is the Messiah, and he is God. If that is what it took for you, then so be it. But the "proof" can be found in the Gospels themselves where Jesus says that he is the Messiah and that he is God. The "proof" is "he said it and therefore it is so." That is what faith is.

 

[JustTheFacts]

I agree that the seven year tribulation DOCTRINE (teaching) is not at all biblically sound. But you begin the OP by stating something that is untrue. That the seventy sevens of Dan 9 is the most perfect prophecy ever given. All prophecy by God is perfect. And Dan 7, like much of the prophetic writings, deals with something in the immediate future for Israel----their return from Babylon to Jerusalem. It then moves farther into the future, and ultimately to the crucifixion of Jesus and then to the consummation of his victory on the cross.

So you claim that a prophecy that provides the details of the Messiah and is named the seventy sevens with a seven being something that is complete and perfect, is not the most complete and perfect prophecy ever. Please provide me even one section of prophecy that is more perfect and complete than Daniel 9:24-27?

The math does not matter.

Then why did God give us the math problem?

I am not inclined to offer up a complete breakdown of Dan 7. I will leave that to a non-dispensationalist to do if any are so inclined.

Feel free to present your take on that prophecy because I don't mind you proving me to be wrong.

I surmise that you do not see anything eschatalogical about your post because you are using this one set of scriptures as your proof that Jesus is the Messiah, and he is God. If that is what it took for you, then so be it.

You surmised wrong. There is nothing in Daniel 9:24-27 that addresses the end times. Where have I erred?

But the "proof" can be found in the Gospels themselves where Jesus says that he is the Messiah and that he is God. The "proof" is "he said it and therefore it is so."

Jesus said testimony was important to prove himself to the world. Are you disagreeing with Jesus?

That is what faith is.

Thanks for explaining faith to me. I needed that explanation.