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What is the gospel

Well, if they believe the gospel because they were given life, they will. But it's not the gospel as I believe anyway.
Thank you for this, as it makes sense.

I was raised in many different denominations as a child/teen.

This was always preached that one must admit they are sinner to be saved.

However, I do not see that anywhere in the Bible.

It is why I asked.
 
Exactly what I said. You have lost track of the subject and your original statement, and made it your own subject, not that of the OP.

I never said he did or even hinted at such a thing, In fact I said he did teach them about it---but that is not what he was doing in the scripture you quote to show that when we present what the gospel to a non-believer, we have to preach at that time, the Doctrines of Grace. WHich is the claim you made. Perhaps you don't know that the DoG are the doctrines in TULIP and you only meant we preach that salvation is by grace and not works. I agree with that as an necessary part of preaching the gospel. If that is all you meant, just say so, and we can move on. I assumed when you said the DoG must be preached as part of the gospel, that that is what you meant.

The DoG has three other doctrines that precede and of necessity lead into irresistible (effectual) grace. Salvation is by grace even apart from Total Depravity. Unconditional Election, and Limited Atonement. The fact that you are breathing or had food for breakfast is by the grace of God. It is grace because God owes no one anything and they can do nothing to merit anything from him, certainly not forgiveness of sin and eternal life. All of that is Christian doctrine.

The gospel on the other hand is who Jesus is, what he did, and why he did it, and how his work is applied to a person (by grace and through faith).
There's no way around preaching salvation by grace and neglect election of Grace with the other essentials. Do you think preaching salvation by grace is fundamental to the gospel?
 
So, theological explanations are. Okay, thanks.
Explaining salvation by grace is fundamental and in order to do that you have to preach the election of Grace. Also we should make it clear exactly who Jesus Christ died for and what it accomplished for them in the gospel! Did Christ die just for sinners in general or specific sinners like his sheep or the church or his people ? You don't think you should explain that?
 
That sure is a part of it.
What else besides 'what Christ has done on our behalf' is missing?
I know it's quite general, but it incorporates ALL that Christ has done on our behalf
 
Explaining salvation by grace is fundamental and in order to do that you have to preach the election of Grace. Also we should make it clear exactly who Jesus Christ died for and what it accomplished for them in the gospel! Did Christ die just for sinners in general or specific sinners like his sheep or the church or his people ? You don't think you should explain that?
I just asked what the gospel is. That's all.


So, thanks for sharing your beliefs
 
What else besides 'what Christ has done on our behalf' is missing?
I know it's quite general, but it incorporates ALL that Christ has done on our behalf
Okay. Thanks for sharing. :)
 
There's no way around preaching salvation by grace and neglect election of Grace with the other essentials. Do you think preaching salvation by grace is fundamental to the gospel?
You are just rehashing old ground that has already been covered and your question has been answered.
 
Because I do not believe the gospel is about us and our needs. It is about Jesus.
It is about Jesus, but how is it possible to preach the gospel----which is the good news of salvation---without relating it to why he needed to do what he did. It is people who we are preaching the gospel to. People who are being redeemed through the preaching of the gospel. If it has no relation to them, why would we preach it?

The entire Law was to show us our need.
 
Amen! I believe this is it, this is the gospel plain and simple. Anything else is about the gospel.
The gospel: Who Jesus is and what Jesus has done.
I think an integral part of it is why he did it, and why he is the only way to be reconciled to God. He died on the cross substituting himself for his people. They are helpless. The need to be rescued.
 
Because I do not believe the gospel is about us and our needs. It is about Jesus.
It isn't about our needs. But it is to meet our need. We are in need of a rescuer because we are helpless. We need someone to deliver us from the kingdom of darkness. And that someone is Jesus.
 
Explaining salvation by grace is fundamental and in order to do that you have to preach the election of Grace.
No you don't. Does Paul do that in Eph 2:8-9?

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
 
Also we should make it clear exactly who Jesus Christ died for and what it accomplished for them in the gospel! Did Christ die just for sinners in general or specific sinners like his sheep or the church or his people ? You don't think you should explain that?
That is teaching, not the Gospel. You seem to think you have to do God's job for him.
 
The gospel is the good news that God saves sinners through Jesus Christ. All of redemptive history flows from the eternal plan of God and finds its fulfillment in Christ, to whom all of scripture points—from the first promise after the fall to the ratification of the new covenant in Christ's blood. Although we all have sinned and deserve death, God sent his Son to live the life we failed to live, die for our sins, and rise again for our justification. Everyone who repents and believes in Christ is forgiven, reconciled to God, and receives eternal life.

Amen.

The Gospel is the person and work of Jesus Christ but what that person is (Messiah) and what that work is (redemption) should be noted.

I like the way you did. It keeps it short while giving an impactful amount of information that is key to know.

I have always had the more difficult time with where to start, but I appreciate how you did.
 
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No you don't. Does Paul do that in Eph 2:8-9?

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast..

But a person may legitimately wonder why doesn't everyone believe, in an automatic way. Well, they are not all elect. We only know who is by the positive reaction to the presentation that a substitutionary act needed to be made.
 
This is thought-provoking.

Lately, I personally feel a little different about this. The part about making our need known.

I disagree here. The good news is only good as it's touching us.

If it didn't touch us it would only be news, not specifically good news.

Our need is a part.
 
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