The creation knows Jesus us the Creator (Revelation 5:11; cf. 5:13 - 'every created thing'), because they all worship Him as such (Revelation 5:12-13).
What does "Deity of Christ" mean?
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The creation knows Jesus us the Creator (Revelation 5:11; cf. 5:13 - 'every created thing'), because they all worship Him as such (Revelation 5:12-13).
Can you explain what you are trying to say.? Are you saying dying mankind, Jesus, the Son of man is the Creator ?
Jesus is properly worshiped as being God.
The creation knows the Creator (Revelation 5).
All your lengthy posts are meaningless becasue you are not a born-again.
Born again means to accept Jesus as your Lord.
Your fruit is showing your Lord is not Jesus, your Lord is a triune god.
To all Triune god worshippers:
Jesus says you have to be born again for God's kingdom.
You guys have no idea about being born again.
It means to accept Jesus as your Lord.
Jesus says we know them by their fruit.
You guys are not showing the fruit of being faithful to God and Jesus.
You have to honor everything that Jesus says and practice it.
That's what it means to be born again.
This is for @Arial too.
Jesus says you have to be born again for God's kingdom.
You guys have no idea about being born again.
It means to accept Jesus as your Lord.
Jesus says we know them by their fruit.
You guys are not showing the fruit of being faithful to God and Jesus.
You have to honor everything that Jesus says and practice it.
That's what it means to be born again.
This is for @Arial too.
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Jesus is Lord means Jesus is YHWH.
See Acts 2:21 and Romans 10:13. Lord (in reference to Jesus) is from YHWH in Joel 2:32 (3:5 in the LXX).
Those who deny Jesus is YHWH do not have the true Jesus of the Bible.
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Right, God is essentially spiritual in nature.
⦁ The Father subsists in the Spiritual Nature.
⦁ The Son subsists in the Spiritual Nature.
⦁ The Holy Spirit subsists in the Spiritual Nature.
There is only one undivided and indivisible nature. This verse is in reference to the Father who is spiritual, since he is spiritual, then we worship him in Spirit. In the same way we worship the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Bible can only tell us about certain substantial qualities of God's nature, like: Love, Divine, Spiritual, Invisible, Light, and Truthful, etc. But when talking about the Hypostatic Union, then we refer to the nature as divine, or Divine Nature.
Here is something for you to chew on.
1 Timothy 3:16 "in flesh" and "in spirit"
1 Peter 3:18 "in flesh" and "in spirit"
Romans 1:3-4 "according to flesh" and "according to spirit"
The "in flesh" (is the human nature) and "in spirit" (is the Divine Nature).
Good grief. Your denial is getting worst 'to the point' that Paul somehow was exaggerating.
Hypostatic Unionists.
If you are going to apply logic, then make sure it's in alignment to Scriptures. Your deduction only works if you assume Unitarianism and deny that Jesus is God Scripturally. That's why the conclusion makes no sense Scripturally and according to the Hypostatic Union framework. You can't make a logical deduction based on these verses. The best you can do is simply deny.
Scriptural reference for 'Jesus Christ is GOD': (John 1:1, Colossians 2:9).
Father's claim (Hebrews 1:8).
Son's claim (John 8:58-59).
Jews' claim (John 5:18, 10:31-33).
Peter's claim (2 Peter 1:1).
Thomas' claim (John 20:28).
John's claim (1 John 5:20).
Paul's claim (Titus 2:13, Romans 9:5).
Jesus Christ is God. Jesus Christ is man. Therefore, Jesus Christ is both God and man.
The above quote is gibberish talk. Try learning what the Trinity and Hypostatic Union teaches. Only thing you are doing is denying that Jesus Christ is God and assuming Unitarianism is true. That's not an argument. It's like, "denying that a orange is juicy" and "talking about a apple." You haven't even made an argument against the Trinity or the Hypostatic Union.
Logically, you cannot argue from the Hypostatic Union doctrinal position that "Jesus Christ is a Man." Because you would be affirming and adding support to what we already believe about Jesus Christ. Your common theme is demonstrated by pointing out Bible verses that Jesus Christ has claimed to be "a man." Or pointing out attributes of his "humanity" like being hungry, weeping, and lacking knowledge, etc. Then make bare assertions that he never claims to be "God." From your mindset its assumed that Jesus Christ being a man negates over him being God. Unfortunately, there would be no argument between both Hypostatic Unionists and Man-Only advocates in that particular regard. Even at the most basic level fundamentally. Since ultimately there would be a passable or just good enough acceptable agreement about Jesus Christ's humanity.
All you did was affirm the Hypostatic Union doctrine.
⦁ Jesus Christ is both omniscient (John 16:30) and ignorant (Matthew 24:36). Jesus Christ according to the human nature Jesus grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52), didn't know there was figs on the tree, didn't know where they laid Lazarus, and didn't know who touched him. But he is greater than Solomon (Matthew 12:42), knows all people, knows the Father, and knows all things (John 16:30, John 21:17, 1 John 3:20).
⦁ Jesus Christ is both omnipresent (Matthew 18:20) and bodily localized (Matthew 4:18). Jesus Christ as 'walking' is according to the human nature, which is, a localized physical bodily movement (Matthew 4:18, 14:25-26, Luke 4:30, 24:15, etc.) and not everywhere present like the Divine Nature that is 'filling the whole universe' (Jeremiah 23:23-24, Psalms 139:7-10 i.e. Ephesians 4:10, 1:22-23, Colossians 3:11, Acts 17:27).
⦁ Jesus Christ is both omnipotent (Colossians 1:17) and powerless (Matthew 8:23). Jesus Christ according to the human nature is sleeping (Matthew 8:23), hungry, thirst, weeping, and felt abandon, etc, but yet, according to the Divine Nature is sustaining all thing, and all things hold together (Hebrews 1:3, Colossians 1:17 i.e. 1 Corinthians 8:6, Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 2:10, Romans 11:36)
Wayne Grudem, "Systematic Theology" which states: "Scriptures does not tell us that "Jesus was tempted" and that "Jesus was not tempted" ...The Bible tells us that "Jesus was tempted" and "Jesus was fully Man" and "Jesus was fully God" and "God cannot be tempted". This combination of teachings from Scriptures... he could be tempted in one sense and yet, in another sense, not be tempted" (p. 538). Because Jesus has two different distinctive natures that are not in the same sense. It would be a category mistake. Being tempted is not overlapping and concurring into the Divine Nature. Jesus as a man is tempted according to the human nature only, but he cannot be tempted by evil as God according to the Divine Nature too.
Yes the Creator gave his faith as a labor of his love. Just as with our brother in the lord Jesus .
Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
Is jesus your brother in the Lord?????
Mark 3:35For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother
Jesus is my Creator (God).
Jesus is not your Lord. So everything you spread is heresy.
Why use a tetragram? (YHWH) It can only cause confusion .
Yes, Jesus the Christ (not Jesus the son of man dying mankind.)
Jesus as a prophet is sent as apostle. He was given words from the Father to reveal the "I Am."
Dying mankind is not eternal God (I AM)
The first time the Father gave words to His prophets Jesus.saying . . I Am . . it literally moved them backwards and fell to the ground (the Spirit of judgement falling back slain in the Spirit.) Showing the tongue of God has the power of death.
The second time the father gave him the words I Am it showed his tongue has the power of new life . . releasing the believers from the Judas satan inspired crowd
John 18: 5-8 They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. (words of the father) And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them. As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground. Then asked he them again, Whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth.Jesus (given words from the father) answered, I have told you that I am he: if therefore ye seek me,(christ) let these go their way:
Proverbs 18:21Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
You couldn't address the evidence and passages I supplied because they refute your false jesus.
For those who allow it to.
Revelation 5:13 (which you keep dodging) proves Jesus is the Creator.
Yes the Christ. . not Jesus the son of man . Satan would have it as all one in the same. It's his goal to deceive the whole world that eternal God is a temporal dying Jewish man .
Why offer confusion?
I already know that Jesus as the Christ (eternal God ) is the one Creator. The Son of man Jesus dying mankind was created by Christ over two thousand years ago .
The son of man Jesus is not the Creator. . he is a creation of the Creator. Christ the Holy anointing Spirit of God .
The Son of man Jesus could declare all day and night. "let there be" and nothing would appear.
Then you need to educate yourself more.
Since as the Son of Man He is the proper recipient of prayer demonstrates He is the Creator. For only God is the proper recipient of prayer.
Address that what you call evidence again ?
God spoke through the son of man, Jesus the prophet .The Father sent him as a apostle.It's what prophets do declare the will of another as messenger they declared the will of the creator. . . the unseen Holy Father, the living abiding word. The word that divides between the thoughts and intents and strengthens the believer to hear and do the will of God . How beautiful are the feet of the messengers sent by God.
Not how beautiful is there own dying will. as some teach venerate the apostles.
Not the dying will of the son of man, Jesus .
Jesus said not my will (no power) but you Father the will with plenty of "let there be" good power more than enough to raise the dead and rebuke the father of lies.
Born again Christians have his power that works in us the powerless dying. But those born again would never say it as power is of us, dying mankind
That I think is the giving over of the power as if coming from the Son of man Jesus (dying mankind) would define blasphemy. . . accrediting the power of God things of our invisible God giving it over to dying flesh
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Nothing is of us. Like Jesus replied his dying flesh profits for zero and it the unseen Holy Spirit that give new spirit life the poring out of His eternal Holy Spirit alone could profit .
Many disciples walked away and no longer followed. They were looking for a fleshly god to venerate called a outward Jew .
New creation not rebuilt or reconditioned .
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