She was deceived as we all are at one time or another but what was the source of that deceit? Hubris.
The serpent was the source of that deceit. There is no evidence of hubris in Eve, so to say that was the source of her deception is presuming to be able to determine what was in her mind and heart.
Eve did not know what sin was, she had no clue, but she did know what the command of God was, she should have known that He loved Her and would only do what was best for her, but Eve chose to believe the serpent over God so the rest was moot. She chose to trust the serpent's words over God's command. Now that takes hubris.
You do not actually know what Eve did and didn't know. The meaning of a passage comes first, then the application if one chooses to use it as a moral teaching. But the account of the fall is not a moral teaching. And the command nothing to do with Eve knowing that God loved her and would only do what was best for her. The command was to be obeyed period. God had already given the curse and the blessing for obedience or disobedience. Obey, access to the tree of life. Disobey, death because access to the tree of life was cut off.
Humble yourself in the sight of the Lord and He will lift you up. Humbling oneself before the Lord is the beginning. It is the same as fearing the Lord.
The beginning of what?
We have no ability to act when we are dead, but when we are made alive we can now see to choose.
That would not be being made alive. It would be God asking us if we want to be resuscitated. Which a spiritually dead person would not even know to ask, yet be able to ask. "Unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of heaven." Since the kingdom is not visible, that see must refer to knowing that it is there or understand it. Further verified by 1 Cor 1:18
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1 Cor 2:14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
The natural man are those dead in tresspasses and sins that must be raised to life, and who God does raise to life---those who believe when they hear. Not make a choice when they hear.
The man could have laughed it off as a bad Joke but he chose to submit himself to Jesus and obey. There comes that moment in everyone's lives. I use the word moment metaphorically because the Holy Spirit has to strive with some for many years.
You add to the scriptures all sorts of things presumed to be in this man's mind, or the fact that he could have done this, or could have done that, forgetting to determine the meaning and purpose of the one who speaks or writes, of a passage and go straight to manufactured application. That episode is not about the man, it is about who Jesus is. "He could have laughed if off and not submitted" has no place it using this to support your claim. It is not even about your claim. What is important is not that he submitted to Jesus and obeyed, but that Jesus healed him and he walked. I suspect you gather with a group much like all the non-Reformed Bible studies I have ever been to---and there are a lot of them.
They start with a passage or passages. Then ask "What does this mean to you?" Each person gives what they see in the scriptures, looking for the deepest moral of the story. And the actual meaning is never addressed or even considered relevant. That is how the church got in such terrible doctrial trouble (one way). There is no actual effort to establish doctrine from the whole counsel of God and we look for what makes us feel good, and vow to become better people. That is why there are so many factions and divisions and endless arguments. Those who have never even been taught even the basics of interpretation, or how to check what one hears against the word, teach, and the foundation is being built upon with hay, and wood, and straw. And having come out of and being a part of this failure to rightly handle the word of God, will not listen to it when they hear it---or more precisely, can't hear it, but will argue endlessly against what they cannot hear and therefore do not understand/
So, with that in mind, I will leave the conversation before the hubris really shows up and hard feelings and disrespect and divisiveness among the brethren takes over. May your days be blessed in the Lord.
