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The Perverted Gospel!

So, the verse isn't about the tribulation period??? Are you sure?
No cos there are many many verses

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

Heb 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:

Romans 11:22 – God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness

Colossians 1:21-23 – holy and blameless, if you continue in the faith"

Colossians 2:5
For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

Hebrews 12:22-25: "we shall not escape if we turn away from Him"

Hebrews 4:1-3, 9-12: "strive to enter the rest of God"

Hebrews 6:4-9 – those who became partakers of the holy spirit and fell away

Hebrews 10:23-29, 35-39: "if we sin willfully", "if anyone draws back".

Hebrews 3:4-6: Holding fast our confidence firm until the end

Jn 15:1-5 abide in Christ

John 2:24-25 – "if what you heard from the beginning abides in you"

John 8-9 : to "everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ

Galatians 5:2-4 "Severed from Christ"

Galatians 5:5
For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

2 Timothy 2:11-13: "if we deny him, he will also deny us"

James 5:19-20: the wandered brother

Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

1 Timothy 5:8: "he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever"

1 Corinthians 5:5: "so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord"

1 Thessalonians 3:5
For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.

1 Timothy 2:15
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Peter 2: "It would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness"

Jude: "Turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness" - a much relevant warning

1 Cor. 9:27 ....Lest I myself might become a castaway

Heb 1:14 shall be heirs of salvation

Romans 1:5
By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
(Must remain obedient)

(He who endured to the end) one who dies in a state of grace united to Jesus Christ by faith and baptism!
Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38 1 pet 3:21
Matt 24:13


Can’t lose your salvation while still in this world:

Acts 1: 18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Jn 15:1-5 abide

Matt 24:12 endure

Romans 11:22 – God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness

Colossians 1:21-23 – holy and blameless, if you continue in the faith"

Colossians 2:5
For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

Hebrews 12:22-25: "we shall not escape if we turn away from Him"

Hebrews 6:4-9 – those who became partakers of the holy spirit and fell away

Hebrews 10:23-29, 35-39: "if we sin willfully", "if anyone draws back".

Hebrews 3:4-6: Holding fast our confidence firm until the end.
 
No cos there are many many verses

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Lets do the first on yur list..Rev 2:26

Who is an overcomer?
1 John 5:4 For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.
Answer....those who have been born of God.

I could probably have included 1 Joh 4:4 in the description.
 
Lets do the first on yur list..Rev 2:26

Who is an overcomer?
1 John 5:4 For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.
Answer....those who have been born of God.

I could probably have included 1 Joh 4:4 in the description.
Works it says
 
Even if was faith you would still have to believe to the end
and it don’t say faith alone
 
Till the end of what?
Till the end of your free will!
The hour of death
That’s why Christian ms in the apostolic church have always prayed this way; “pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of death! Amen!”
 
Till the end of your free will!
The hour of death
That’s why Christian ms in the apostolic church have always prayed this way; “pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of death! Amen!”
OK, that's what you say the verse says...I ask where?
 
What else could it be?
WOW.....come on dude....I already presented you with the context surrounding the verse.

Can you read around the verse and figure it out or do you need me to explain it to you again?

Why don't you actually read the bible for yourself and stop presenting what others tell you to think.
 
What?

Btw you never answered

Are the Jews saved in the mosaic covenant?

Are the Jews condemned?
1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema
Anyone that doesn't obey the Torah/Law who is born-again are 'anathema' because Jesus said, "If you love me obey my commandments" and His commandments were the Torah which He taught to the Jews while here on the planet. If a believer doesn't obey the Law, they show they don't love the Lord and therefore on this basis are 'anathema.'

The Jews that are saved are in the New Covenant which is everything the Mosaic Covenant was in shadow but experience the Mosaic Covenant through Christ Jesus who fulfilled it. That is the New Covenant. It is the Mosaic Covenant in Christ fulfilled and through Christ in us we move about and have our being.

The unsaved Jews are practicing a form of the Mosaic Covenant except without the Tabernacle (or Temple.) Judaism which developed in Babylon while in exile centered around their fests instead of the Temple, which Temple sacrifices are made.
 
WOW.....come on dude....I already presented you with the context surrounding the verse.

Can you read around the verse and figure it out or do you need me to explain it to you again?

Why don't you actually read the bible for yourself and stop presenting what others tell you to think.
Go ahead
 
Anyone that doesn't obey the Torah/Law who is born-again are 'anathema' because Jesus said, "If you love me obey my commandments" and His commandments were the Torah which He taught to the Jews while here on the planet. If a believer doesn't obey the Law, they show they don't love the Lord and therefore on this basis are 'anathema.'
How does your so-called Biblical Christianity save people?

For example you don't obey the commandments....maybe some of them, but definitely not all of them...so, how did you get saved?

Do you only need to keep 10% of them? 35% of them? 97% of them? Try as hard as you can?
 
How does your so-called Biblical Christianity save people?

For example you don't obey the commandments....maybe some of them, but definitely not all of them...so, how did you get saved?

Do you only need to keep 10% of them? 35% of them? 97% of them? Try as hard as you can?
Please explain how these did so?
Lk 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
 
Please explain how these did so?
Lk 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
Is it your claim they never sinned?

the word righteous used is...1342. dikaios...which indicates "just; especially, just in the eyes of God; righteous; the elect (a Jewish idea)."

You still didn't answer my question....

Do you only need to keep 10% of them? 35% of them? 97% of them? Try as hard as you can?

Let me ask...do you keep all the commandments? That answer is obviously NO. So, how are you saved?
 
Is it your claim they never sinned?

the word righteous used is...1342. dikaios...which indicates "just; especially, just in the eyes of God; righteous; the elect (a Jewish idea)."

You still didn't answer my question....

Do you only need to keep 10% of them? 35% of them? 97% of them? Try as hard as you can?

Let me ask...do you keep all the commandments? That answer is obviously NO. So, how are you saved?
“It says all”

We are not saved not in the process of salvation
 
“It says all”

We are not saved not in the process of salvation
Acts 2:21......And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’

When will you call on the name of the Lord?

You see, you won't. You think you have the ability to save yourself.
Eph 2 put it simply....8 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

What do you do with Eph 2:8?

2nd Tim 1:9 says....He has saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works, but by His own purpose and by the grace He granted us in Christ Jesus before time began.

How about Titus 3:5
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 3:28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.

When will you realize it's 100% Jesus?
 
Acts 2:21......And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’

When will you call on the name of the Lord?

You see, you won't. You think you have the ability to save yourself.
Eph 2 put it simply....8 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

What do you do with Eph 2:8?

2nd Tim 1:9 says....He has saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works, but by His own purpose and by the grace He granted us in Christ Jesus before time began.

How about Titus 3:5
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 3:28 So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.

When will you realize it's 100% Jesus?
Call on the name of the Lord everyday! But it says shall be saved! Future! Also are other requirements

Eph 2:8 is part of salvation hence the word saved but it’s past tense already complete and refers to redemption which christ accomplished without us, but the rest justification, sanctification, etc require our participation

2 Tim 1:9 same as eph 2:8
Titus 3:5 same as Jn 3:5 baptismal justification

We have to participate and correspond with grace

We must bear fruit
 
Call on the name of the Lord everyday! But it says shall be saved! Future! Also are other requirements
I hope you don't miss calling on the name of the Lord the day you die.
 
How do we obtain mercy?
Sounds like that's up to God.

Romans 9:14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses:

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,

and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”f

16 So then, it does not depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy
 
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