Joh 15:6 If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned.
This verse does not say "if anyone does not keep on abiding in me..."
It is talking about those who do not abide in Him. Who are not in Him, and He is not in them.
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In context then, Sorry about that since I read that to know what He meant but it is better understood in context.
John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman
. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you.
As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches:
He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
The purpose for saved believers to abide in Him & His words is to bear fruit as His disciples and thereby be ready to be received by Him as that vessel unto honor in His House to attend the marriage Supper in Heaven held in His honor & to His glory
Luk 12:46 the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces and put him with the unfaithful.
Your Bible version is off.
Why is Jesus warning His disciples then?
Luke 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. 41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? 42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;
46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
Notice cutting the believer off to be with unbelievers as if cut from the vine to be left behind on earth for when that fire He sends comes in verse 49 below? Also note how they are given stripes on His servants for the measure of knowledge they had for not being ready and the knowledge they did not have for not being ready, but stripes they will get as His servants still. Unbelievers are not going to get those stripes.
47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. 49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
This verse is not talking of born again Christians, rather like not all Israel are elect Israel, nor are all who call themselves servants of Christ, true servants of Christ:
1Jn_2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
This is about all born again Christians and for why there are 2 kinds of eternal inheritance; the firstfruits which is the fold John is talking about as being of us, and they that be Christ's at His coming, those left behind saints still in unrepentant iniquity along with former believers and then after the rapture, new believers also.
There are two kinds of vessels in His House for why i say there are two kinds of eternal inheritance.
2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some
. 19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
So those that went out from us that it may be manifested as not of us shall be left behind unless they repent by His grace & by His help before the rapture event.
There are no contradictions in the Bible, one either believes the promises of God like this:
Joh 6:37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.
Joh 6:38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.
Joh 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.
Joh 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
or one looks to contradict the promises, by a working for your salvation theology.
Matthew 25:1-13 KJV In this parable of the ten virgins that ARE the kingdom of Heaven, what is overlooked is that the foolish virgins ARE the kingdom of heaven and thus saved but missed out on the Marriage Supper with the Bridegroom in that kingdom of Heaven, but they are still in that kingdom of Heaven.
So there is no casting out of His kingdom of Heaven but not every saved believer will be found abiding in Him to be received as that vessel unto honor in His House.
This is not a works salvation when you reconsider your belief that those left behind were never saved when they were and still are saved for He will lose none of all the Father has given Him for why there are vessels unto dishonor in His House to testify to the power of God in salvation for all who believe in him, even in His name.
This is about discipleship to bear fruit by hoping in Him to run that ace by helping them to lay aside every weight & sin daily to walk in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son to avoid being left behind, and not just lose the reward of that crown.
1 Corinthians 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a
castaway.
Hebrews 12:1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses,
let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
There is no work when I am trusting Him to finish His work in me to His glory thus helping me to run that race daily with Him as His abiding disciple.
