Rom 6:3. Which baptism is being referred to here?

[prism]

All who are Christians have been baptized with the Holy Spirit.
It is this event that places a person into the body of Christ.

Acts 8:14-17 ESV
Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent to them Peter and John, [15] who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, [16] for he had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. [17] Then they laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit.

Here, it seems to be a matter of 'receiving the Holy Spirit' or are you considering 'receiving' synonymous with 'being baptized with the Holy Spirit'?

 

[prism]

All of the commandments hang on two. Love God with all of you, and love your neighbor as yourself.
These are works of faith. The righteousness which comes by faith.

Two commandments which we fail miserably at. I'm glad Jesus kept those two commandments in my stead and imputes His righteousness in place of my unrighteousness.

 

[LeviR]

Two commandments which we fail miserably at. I'm glad Jesus kept those two commandments in my stead and imputes His righteousness in place of my unrighteousness.

Thing is, those aren’t any of the Ten Commandments. Jesus gave those commandments and said the ten hang on those two. To obey those two covers all.

 

[LeviR]

Two commandments which we fail miserably at. I'm glad Jesus kept those two commandments in my stead and imputes His righteousness in place of my unrighteousness.

You have not love for God and your neighbor?

Love fulfills the law. If you love, then all the law can be abolished.

Gentiles were never under the laws of God. But the Jew will be saved just as they. Love God and your neighbor and it’s all fulfilled.

 

[Fred]

Acts 8:14-17 ESV
Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent to them Peter and John, [15] who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, [16] for he had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. [17] Then they laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit.

Here, it seems to be a matter of 'receiving the Holy Spirit' or are you considering 'receiving' synonymous with 'being baptized with the Holy Spirit'?

When one receives the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:47) that is when he/she is baptized with the Holy Spirit (Acts 11:16).

 

[Rella]

When one receives the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:47) that is when he/she is baptized with the Holy Spirit (Acts 11:16).

Yes, not a water baptism. The two are separate and can happen at separate times.

 

[prism]

You have not love for God and your neighbor?

Love fulfills the law. If you love, then all the law can be abolished.

Gentiles were never under the laws of God. But the Jew will be saved just as they. Love God and your neighbor and it’s all fulfilled.

No, I don't love God and neighbor with ALL my heart, mind, soul and strength 100% of the time, like Jesus did, I'd be lying if I said I did.
How much love must I do until the law is abolished?

 

[prism]

When one receives the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:47) that is when he/she is baptized with the Holy Spirit (Acts 11:16).

So when they 'receive' Jesus, they also receive the Holy Spirit, correct?

 

[LeviR]

No, I don't love God and neighbor with ALL my heart, mind, soul and strength 100% of the time, like Jesus did, I'd be lying if I said I did.
How much love must I do until the law is abolished?

Do what is just. Love mercy, because God is merciful.. And walk humbly with God. That’s what He requires.
And He knows the heart. And our weaknesses.
The sin that so easily besets us all is that of unbelief.

There are many examples in Scripture of faith to follow. As are there many examples of unbelief. Follow the examples of faith.

 

[prism]

Do what is just. Love mercy, because God is merciful.. And walk humbly with God. That’s what He requires.
And He knows the heart. And our weaknesses.
The sin that so easily besets us all is that of unbelief.

There are many examples in Scripture of faith to follow. As are there many examples of unbelief. Follow the examples of faith.

Did you forget to answer this question?....

"How much love must I do until the law is abolished?"

 

[Fred]

So when they 'receive' Jesus, they also receive the Holy Spirit, correct?

Yes, because to receive the Holy Spirit is to receive the Spirit of Jesus (Acts 16:7).

 

[prism]

Yes, because to receive the Holy Spirit is to receive the Spirit of Jesus (Acts 16:7).

So, did these disciples receive Jesus a 2nd time?

Acts 4:31 (KJV) And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

 

[Fred]

So, did these disciples receive Jesus a 2nd time?

Acts 4:31 (KJV) And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

No, because the filling with the Holy Spirit can and should happen more than once after salvation.

Mounce's Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words: Even after people are permanently filled with the Spirit at conversion, the Spirit can again fill them in a sense that he possesses and empowers them in a special way for a temporary, specific task, such as when Peter spoke to the Sanhedrin (Acts 4:8) and the church prayed for boldness (4:31). Paul is filled with the Spirit (9:17) and almost immediately begins to testify (9:20). He is later filled with the Spirit again and denounces Elymas the magician (13:9) (Fill, page 250).

 

[LeviR]

Did you forget to answer this question?....

"How much love must I do until the law is abolished?"

Show mercy to the poor and needy. Matt 26:11, Mar 14:7, Eze 16:49

Covetousness:
Eph 5
Col 3

Children to parents:
Eph 6:2-3
If a parent needs food, shelter or clothing, provide for them.

Marriage:
If you are married, stay married..
Exception; Adultery.
Matt 5:32

And finally, Pray.

Simple and most practical.

 

[Mr GLee]

All who are Christians have been baptized with the Holy Spirit.
It is this event that places a person into the body of Christ.

Christ in us the hope of glory is H20?

We are the Living temple.

Again Christ in us not H20 in us

 

[Fred]

Christ in us the hope of glory is H20?

We are the Living temple.

Again Christ in us not H20 in us

The Holy Spirit is not literal water.

BDAG (3rd Edition): of the Holy Spirit which, according to Joel's prophecy, is to pour down on people like rain (Jo 2:23; cp. 1QS 4:21): pour out Ac 2:33, 2:17f; 10:45; Tit 3:6. The reference to the Holy Spirit has perhaps brought the idea of outpouring into Ro 5:5 (ekcheō, page 312).

 

[Mr GLee]

The Holy Spirit is not literal water.

Amen

Is H20 necessary for salvation?

 

[Fred]

Amen

Is H20 necessary for salvation?

https://christcentered.community.forum/threads/christian-baptism-does-it-include-infants.2119/page-5#post-93106

 

[Mr GLee]

https://christcentered.community.forum/threads/christian-baptism-does-it-include-infants.2119/page-5#post-93106

Its a yes or no .

 

[Fred]

No, it is not necessary for salvation.