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That is the only way anyone can approach the throne of God. But that refers to the sacrifice of His body and the shedding of His blood of the covenant making propitiation. Only those in Him through faith can come before His throne. It is not saying that we only pray to Jesus.
Where is the question? As it is, I had replied; Scripture testifies to what the holy Spirit will do for us; not by praying to the Holy Spirit to do it.
So in other words---no, you never thank the Holy Spirit for anything. Who sent the Holy Spirit to you? Who gave you the new birth, applying the work of Jesus to you?
God the Father. We are to thank the Giver and not the gift. The gift has no say in the matter since the Gift only says what He hears.
So you do not feel the need to ask anything of the Holy Spirit?
How can the Holy Spirit respond when He has no words of His own to respond by?
John 16:13 But when He, (
A)the Spirit of truth, comes, He will (
B)guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. NASB
John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth,(
A) comes, he will guide you into all the truth.(
B)
He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. NIV
John 16:13 When (
A)the Spirit of truth comes, (
B)he will (
C)guide you into all the truth,
for he will not speak on his own authority, but (D)whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. ESV
John 16:13 When the Holy Spirit, who is truth, comes, he shall guide you into all truth,
for he will not be presenting his own ideas,
but will be passing on to you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future. TLB
Are you getting the bigger picture now? The Holy Spirit is serving as the Spirit of Christ. He cannot use any words on His own for why the Son has to know the mind of the Spirit to make the Spirit's silent intercessions known to the Father.
There is nothing indirect about any part of our salvation.
And may I remind you that Jesus Himself never sought His own glory. It is all---even our redemption and our very life---for the glory of God, who is triune, One, not pieces that have no glory.
What is the obedience that Paul is asking the Philippians to do not only when he was present but in his absence as well?
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 12
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Mayhap this following scripture will aid you in answering that question.
John 13:31 Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him. 32 If God be glorified in him, God shall also glorify him in himself, and shall straightway glorify him.
That is a false teaching and has nothing to do with the conversation or the scriptures being used. If you could set that aside as a different conversation instead of what it is not you might get understanding from what you are being shown. Stop trying to have two different conversations at the same time and co-mingling them into one.
That is not a two different conversations when those apostate movements of the spirit is a result of not heeding His words.
Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Cause and effect. Cause and effect. Cause and effect. Come to God by way of the Spirit, or the "blessed" Trinity, ( the broad way ) you are suffering a thief to break through. This is a work of iniquity for why many in these latter days will be left behind.
God allowed those strong delusion to occur because they were doing worship after the rudiment of the spirit world & not after Christ Jesus.
Colossians 2:5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. 6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
40 That they may fear thee all the days that they live in the land which thou gavest unto our fathers. KJV
