Prove the Practice of Worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son

[Fred]

The reference you used 1 Corinthians 2:1

Is there anything the Holy Spirit does not know about God?
Is the Holy Spirit omniscient?

 

[prism]

John 16:13-14 NKJV
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. [14] He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.

 

[ChristB4us]

Is there anything the Holy Spirit does not know about God?
Is the Holy Spirit omniscient?

That is not the point.

Did the Holy Spirit died on the cross? Did the Father died on the cross? We are talking about divine roles here as set by the will of the Father.

Let's back track here;

Since the Father (Jeremiah 17:10), the Son (Revelation 2:23), and the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:10) fully know the hearts of all, then all three Persons of the Trinity are the proper recipient of prayer.


Notice the word alone - this is also proof that no other created being is to be prayed to (Mary, and/or other 'saints').

1 Corinthians 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

The reference you used 1 Corinthians 2:10 does not testify to the Holy Spirit knowing the hearts of all to be the recipient of prayer, but rather how the Holy Spirit searches the deep things of God.

Jesus is given the sole role of being our only Mediator between God and men because all intercessions goes through the Son and only the Son answers the prayers at the approval of the Father with the Holy Spirit in compliance so that the Son gets the glory and by the Son, the father is glorified in the Son for answers to prayers.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.... 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Take heed to His words because there is no wiggle room for the Holy Spirit to be prayed to.

Just as there is no wiggle room to honor the Holy Spirit in worship when the Father specified how He wants to be honored and that is by only honoring the Son BECAUSE the moment you stop honoring the Son as led by the Spirit of God to do, you are not honoring the Father.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

It is because there are spirits of the antichrist in the world that would take your eyes off of the Son, is why the indwelling Holy Spirit would never take your eyes off of Christ, the Son of God, in worship, prayer, or fellowship for it is by honoring only the Son, you can honor the Father.

 

[Fred]

That is not the point.

That is a dodge on your part.

99% of your posts I ignore, because you ramble on and on in more diversionary tactics.
Answer the question I asked and stop dodging.

 

[ChristB4us]

That is a dodge on your part.

99% of your posts I ignore, because you ramble on and on in more diversionary tactics.
Answer the question I asked and stop dodging.

Only because I see these questions as dodging.

Is there anything the Holy Spirit does not know about God?

Irrelevant when you ignore how the Holy Spirit is not the One Mediator between God and men.

Is the Holy Spirit omniscient?

Irrelevant when you ignore that the Holy Spirit is not the One Mediator between God and men.

 

[Fred]

Only because I see these questions as dodging.

Because the question would refute your false teaching.

So instead of answering it, you run away,

 

[ChristB4us]

Because the question would refute your false teaching.

So instead of answering it, you run away,

When you ignore His words plainly that Jesus is the only way to God the Father by per John 14:6, and being the One Mediator between God and men, 1 Timothy 2:5 and not to climb up any other way john 10:1 as false prophets will broaden the way Matthew 7:13-14 & Luke 13:24 is why many in the latter days can find the door by how we live that reconciled relationship with God the Father by. John 10:7-9 & 1 John 1:3-9

 

[Fred]

ignore

Great idea.

Bye.

 

[ChristB4us]

Great idea.

Bye.

Bye brother. Don't forget to pray.

 

[Keiw1]

The reference you used 1 Corinthians 2:10 does not testify to the Holy Spirit knowing the hearts of all to be the recipient of prayer, but rather how the Holy Spirit searches the deep things of God.

1 Corinthians 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

What you should have listed in comparing the NASB with the KJV is;

Romans 8:26-27
NASB 26 Now in the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for (A)we do not know what to pray for as we should, but (B)the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with [a]groanings too deep for words; 27 and (C)He who searches the hearts knows what (D)the mind of the Spirit is, because He (E)intercedes for the [b]saints according to the will of God.

KJV 26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

My comment is the NASB implies the Holy Spirit making intercessions directly from Himself with groanings too deep for words; hence gibberish nonsense is applied to this meaning for why those that err, use tongues for private use, but the KJV leaves no room for such misapplication because the Holy Spirit cannot even utter His own groanings when making His intercessions "indirectly" by Christ Jesus that searches our hearts as He is the One that knows the mind of the Spirit for how the Spirit's silent intercessions is given to the father because Christ Jesus is the only Mediator between God and men to give all intercessions to the Father so to answer prayers per the will of the Father.

That is why you will not find one example in scripture of praying to the Holy Spirit, or even to the "Trinity" but to the Father in Jesus's name or to the Son at that throne of grace.

Confirmation is found here in your quote from my answer to you in that other thread.


John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

This point of truth is important as Jesus is the One that answers the prayers so that the Father may be glorified in the Son for answers to prayers. That means the Holy Spirit does not answer the prayers since all that the Holy Spirit does as the Spirit of Christ is to give all the credit & glory to Jesus Christ as Jesus Christ is that Lord and the Head of every believer and the body of Christ.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

One ends their prayer-i pray through your son Jesus amen, not to Jesus. Jesus was clear-You must pray then like this-Our Father who art in heaven.

 

[Fred]

One ends their prayer-i pray through your son Jesus amen, not to Jesus. Jesus was clear-You must pray then like this-Our Father who art in heaven.

1 Peter 3:15
but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence.

The same Greek word for "sanctify" is used in reference to prayer to the Father in Matthew 6:9 ('hallowed" in the KJV).
The Lord Jesus is equally the proper recipient of prayer.

Furthermore, Peter quotes Isaiah 8:13 and applies the Lord (YHWH) from that text in reference to Jesus here. Thus, proving Jesus is YHWH.

 

[Keiw1]

1 Peter 3:15
but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence.

The same Greek word for "sanctify" is used in reference to prayer to the Father in Matthew 6:9 ('hallowed" in the KJV).
The Lord Jesus is equally the proper recipient of prayer.

Furthermore, Peter quotes Isaiah 8:13 and applies the Lord (YHWH) from that text in reference to Jesus here. Thus, proving Jesus is YHWH.

You twist things into oblivion.

 

[Fred]

You twist things into oblivion.

Your point-by-point refutation with such powerful evidence to back up your claim is astounding.

What's needed is actual evidence for your assertion.
Since you don't have any, none was given.

 

[donadams]

All called God
The Father- Psalm 89:26, 1Corinthians 8:6, Galalatians 1:1, Colossians 1:3
The Son- 1 Timothy 1:16-17,John 20:28,Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, 1 John 5:20
The Holy Spirit- Acts 5:3-4, Acts 28:25, cf Isaiah 6:8

All Creator
The Father- Isaiah 44:24, 1 Corinthians 8:6
The Son - Colossians 1:16; John 1:3
The Holy Spirit- Job 33:4, Psalms 104:30, Genesis 1:2

All Raised Jesus
The Father- 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10
The Son- John 2:19-21
The Holy Spirit- Romans 8:11

All Eternal
The Father- Psalm 93:2
The Son- Jesus Isaiah 9:6
The Holy Spirit- Hebrews 9:14

All Omniscient
The Father- Psalm 147:5
The Son -John 2:24-25
The Holy Spirit- Isaiah 40:13-14

All Omnipresent
The Father- Jeremiah 23:24
The Son - Matthew 28:18:20
The Holy Spirit- Psalm 139:7-10

All Omnipotent
The Father- Revelation 4:8
The Son- Matthew 28:18, Revelation 5:13
The Holy Spirit- Romans 15:19

It is a duty of religion to worship God!

Thanks