Romans 4 vs James 2: Newborn babes vs converted Christians

[makesends]

A sinful nature is nothing more than the free will choose to obey or disobey.

The sinful nature can only disobey. Or do you, contrary to Romans 8:8, think that the sinful nature can please God?

So why did Adam sin if he didn't have a sinful nature?

1) Because God ordained it, and, 2) Because it was possible. 3) How did Satan sin the first sin?

 

[Josheb]

I know what you call monergism. And I know what you call synergism. Now prove to me that you believe in monergistic regeneration. Obviously, you can't do that. I have told you that I do not believe in your monergism. And I have also told you I do not believe in what you call synergism. You can't prove to me what you believe, and I can't prove to you what I believe.

You are on a witch hunt looking for something that does not exist.

Still no answers to the questions asked. The assertion "I do not believe in "synergistic causation" remains unproved.

 

[JIM]

Still no answers to the questions asked. The assertion "I do not believe in "synergistic causation" remains unproved.

Do you believe in monergistic causation? Prove it.

 

[Mr GLee]

Do you believe in monergistic causation? Prove it.

"Let there be" (the voice of one God) and the demonstration or testimony, the Son of man, Jesus our brother in the Lord . . . "it was good "

The law or power of faith (belief) Gods understanding working within the believer

Two witnesses working as one . One seen temporal dying Jesus. . the other invisible eternal Father .

The Dynamic Duo .

Christ and the bride.

 

[Josheb]

Do you believe in monergistic causation? Prove it.

I have. Many times, in many threads. That question is another avoidant response.

If and when the questions asked in Post #217 are answered I will re-engage with you and answer all your questions.

1. Does God cause the hearing?
2. Is the listening caused by God?
3. Is the understanding of what the unregenerate sinner has heard caused by God?
4. Does God cause the believing?
5. Does God cause the repenting?
6. Does God cause the receiving?

Answer the questions asked and move the discussion forward.

 

[JIM]

I have. Many times, in many threads. That question is another avoidant response.

You haven't proved anything. You have only asserted this and that. Perhaps you don't understand what proving something even means.

If and when the questions asked in Post #217 are answered I will re-engage with you and answer all your questions.

1. Does God cause the hearing?
2. Is the listening caused by God?
3. Is the understanding of what the unregenerate sinner has heard caused by God?
4. Does God cause the believing?
5. Does God cause the repenting?
6. Does God cause the receiving?

Answer the questions asked and move the discussion forward.

I am not really interested in moving any discussion with you forward or backward. I have absolutely no regard any longer for your thinking about anything.

 

[Josheb]

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You haven't proved anything. You have only asserted this and that. Perhaps you don't understand what proving something even means.

I am not really interested in moving any discussion with you forward or backward. I have absolutely no regard any longer for your thinking about anything.

Another avoidant and fallacious response. We were not discussing my thinking, and I wasn't trying to prove anything. We were discussing your thinking; specifically, the claim you do not believe in synergistic causation. Every single attempt to make this about my thinking was, is, and will remain completely fallacious.

I am not really interested in moving any discussion with you forward or backward. I have absolutely no regard any longer for your thinking about anything.

If that is true, then posts 219, 220, 225, 227, 230, 231, 240, 247, 270, 275, 277, 283, and 286 are all disingenuous. That's a lot of posting from a guy claiming no interest in my thinking; thirteen occasions of self-contradiction and utter insincerity. Thirteen examples of trolling.

I am not really interested in moving any discussion with you forward or backward. I have absolutely no regard any longer for your thinking about anything.

I will hold you to those words and refer back to this post every single time any post of mine is quoted so that your own words bear witness, knowing that this is probably just another occasion where the words are meaningless and will never be proven.