So the one in Acts 1:24 that knows everyone's heart isn't Jesus. Perfect.
Please point to us where it says he knows everyone's heart. I also know what is in a man because the old testament says the heart of man is desperately wicked. One doesn't need to be God to know that.
Not clicking your links. If you want to talk then talk in my thread. Again, as I have said to you before, don't derail this thread.
No you didn't. You stated your view. That is responding to what I said, but it is not addressing it. If you addressed it in a way that showed it was wrong, that supported your view and refuted what I said, you would be able to demonstrate with exegesis and exposition where I was wrong. What you did in post #308 was a bunch of vain speculations and truly nonsense. And when I addressed those things in posts #332 and338, you simply repeated the same fallacies, never addressing what I said. I actually do address what you say.
That is your response to this:
It is no answer at all to any of the four questions asked. Are you beginning to see the flaws in your own reasoning? Is that why you resort to things like "It was manifested"? when each qurestion began with the word How ?
Of course you might well ask yourself the same question. But I know that you are not showing me the truth. The first thing it contradicts is who the self revealed God is. The second thing is that it contradicts what God in the Scriptures tells us about mankind.The third thing is that it contradicts our position as creatures ( which you make Jesus to be one of) in relation to Him as our sovereign and creator of all that is. The fourth thing is that it in effect spits on the cross and the glory of the Savior, and as @Mercy_Shown has said has Jesus being created for the sole purpose venting His wrath on. And as Mercy also says, it has a created finite being having the dignity and glory of being able to pay for the sins of all people of all time for all eternity. Maybe what you should do in your "pursuit of truth" is read some of the old school (before this post modern corruption of doctrine) on the atonement---where both satisfaction and bearing the penal code against sin are accomplished in Christ. Maybe you should look at what Jesus actually did, instead of just laying claim to it on a superficial level.
None of them prayed to Jesus. You're still not getting it. Nothing in the Bible says Jesus was actually prayed to. Why do you refuse to obey Jesus's teachings in Matt 6:6,9?
In a bible discussion we will talk about our views and then provide the scripture that evidences or proves those beliefs. That is exactly what I am doing. I did demonstrate with exegesis why what I am telling you the Bible says is true. You need to rebuttal me rather than denying I am addressing what you said. What specifically are you referring to?
1 John 1:1,2 says the word of life is an it that was manifested. It proves Jesus didn't pre-exist as an actual person because words aren't a person.
John said they handled the word of life and that it was manifested to them. What is not clear about that to you?
A bunch of claims with no supporting evidence. Show me otherwise using scripture.
God desired mercy, not sacrifice. Sacrificing Jesus wasn't the ideal way, but it was the necessary way because people often cannot receive God's mercy. Seems you don't actually understand the cross, Jesus' sacrifice, etc.
My beliefs are accurate and I won't stop posting them.
Not my fault you're contradicting Jesus' teachings to pray to the Father in Matt 6:6,9. The verses you quoted don't even mention the word prayer. Do you even know what prayer is??
Yes they are still there. You've presented an incredibly weak argument. Seems you're just bolding the word disciples as if they says anything about Jesus being prayed to.
Bolding random words in verses that are completely unrelated to what we are talking about is laughable. Are you playing connect the dots? I asked you not to derail this thread.
Bolded the words "disciple" and Christian as some kind of proof for something you are projecting into the Bible. The topic of this thread is that Jesus was never prayed to in the Bible. The verses you quoted above only enhance my point.
The word prayer is used in the Bible in reference to communicating with God and worshipping God. That's what the Greek says. No where in the Bible is the word prayer used in communicating with Jesus. Twist and distort scripture and string together verses to try to form a doctrine if you wish, but you will never have any sort of explicit directive or example of Jesus being prayed to. You think I opened this thread without doing my homework first?
