Holiness of the Sacraments?

[Arch Stanton]

The Tiber ? What that?

The River in Rome

 

[Mr GLee]

The River in Rome

What does that have to do with the headmaster. Christ not Peter.

 

[Arch Stanton]

What does that have to do with the headmaster. Christ not Peter.

Christ and His Church!

 

[Mr GLee]

Christ and His Church!

Again which one is the Divine head? no man can serve two devine teaching masters .

Which one today brother. . Peter our brother in the Lord dying mankind or #2 our unseen living Holy Father, Holy See ?

What was the lesson Peter learned in Matthew 16 when he rebuked the Divine God of Glory and forbid the Son of man Jesus from doing the will of our invisible God. . Holy Father Holy See ?

Pay more attention to the dying things of temporal man seen.?. . Disregard the invisible things of God ?(sola scriptura)

What do you think Peter learned?

 

[Arch Stanton]

Again which one is the Divine head?

Christ

What do you think Peter learned?

That Christ gave him the keys of authority over His Church.

 

[Mr GLee]

That Christ gave him the keys of authority over His Church.

If that's the case what is the function of the Holy Spirit as Christ ? A stand by? Does he have any authority or does Peter has it all?

 

[Arch Stanton]

If that's the case

Have you not read Mt 16?

Does he have any authority or does Peter has it all?

The Holy Spirit guides the Church. Are you one who 'cannot accept' in Jn 14?

Jn 14:16-17 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate to be with you ALWAYS, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, which the world cannot accept, because it neither sees nor knows it. But you know it, because it remains with you, and will be in you.

Jn 16:13 But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will GUIDE YOU to ALL TRUTH. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming.

 

[Mr GLee]

Have you not read Mt 16?

I have read it an studied to show myself apoeved unto our Holy Father Holy see in heaven.

Seriously I don't think you have studied according to the loving commandment comparing the spiritual unseen thing of God to the asme spiritual understanding

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God,(not the Pope dying mankind ) a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth (sola scriptura)

Yes the whole context (Matthew 16) to include where Peter our brother in the Lord was deceived by the Father of lies Satan according to the end of the matter .The lesson learned . . for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. (mankind Peter, Mary dying flesh and blood )

Mathew 16: 23 But he (eternal invisible God) turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the (Invisible) things that be of God, (but those visible dying )that be of men. . . .. . . . . . . . . . . (Peter our brother in the lord and Mary our blessed sister in the Lord ) "

It's easy to see where Peter our brother in the lord empowered by Satan usurped the power of the Holy Father in heaven. . blaspheming the son of man preventing him from doing the will of the Holy Father, Holy See . . the same Holy Father ,Holy See who revealed it to Peter. . not coming from Peters dying flesh and blood.

Jesus did not say for flesh and blood has not reveled with the exception of you Peter the sinner. . Self revealing. Christ revealed Christ as the it sola scriptura . . that the gates of hell could never prevail against . The gospel key .not after dying Peter. God is not a man . we cal no man on searth Holy Father. Holy See .the vicar of Rome etc many titles needed to venerate his dying flesh .

Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. not eataly Rome . I never called by earthly father multiple attributes as titles (Vicar of Christ, Prince of the Apostles, · , Pontiff , Servant of the Servants of God , Primate of Italy etc )

No man can serve two good Devine teaching masters coming from one unseen Holy Father, Holy See, our Vicar Christ .

Which Bible today of dying mankind (CCC) or Holy scripture, sola scriptura . .of eternal God. ???

The Holy Spirit guides the Church. Are you one who 'cannot accept' in Jn 14?

it what a ihave ben saying the holy Spirt giised the church not peter our brother in the lord.
its what you cannot accept the Holy Spirt guides the church comforted them and last but not least he brings to our menomy the previous thing he has taught us (the church)

John 14:26 But the Comforter, (not Peter )which is the Holy Ghost, (not Peter)whom the Father (not the Pope)will send in my( not Peter or our sister in the Lord, Mary ) name, he (not Peter our brother in the Lord or a queen mother .) shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I (not Peter.) have said unto you.

Who is teaching, comforting, guiding and bringing to your memory the previous things he has taught today? Peter, Mary the Pope ? or our living Holy Father, Holy See not seen?

Will you put on the armor of God (sola scriptura) the sword of the Spirit.The Living word of God? Or seek what are called sacred oral traditions of dying fathers ?

 

[Arch Stanton]

I have read it an studied to show myself apoeved unto our Holy Father Holy see in heaven.

Acts 8:29-31 The Spirit said to Philip, “Go and join up with that chariot.” Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” He replied, “How can I, unless someone instructs me?” So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him.

[Scripture does not interpret itself…sola scriptura…which protestant church would have the right interpretation? (with thousands of denominations) no personal interpretation to scatter the flock i.e. 2 Pet 1:20]

Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the LORD with all your heart,

on your own intelligence do not rely;

In all your ways be mindful of him,

and he will make straight your paths.​

Seriously I don't think you have studied

I have indeed.... that is why I am Catholic. You have yet to show Catholics a good reason to ignore Mt 16 'I will give YOU THE KEYS to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever YOU bind on earth...'

Who is teaching, comforting, guiding and bringing to your memory the previous things he has taught today?

Christ through His Church, guided by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Mr GLee]

Acts 8:29-31 The Spirit said to Philip, “Go and join up with that chariot.” Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” He replied, “How can I, unless someone instructs me?” So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him.

[Scripture does not interpret itself…sola scriptura…which protestant church would have the right interpretation? (with thousands of denominations) no personal interpretation to scatter the flock i.e. 2 Pet 1:20]

Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the LORD with all your heart,

on your own intelligence do not rely;

In all your ways be mindful of him,

and he will make straight your paths.​

The Holy Spirit that lived in Philip led him just as he works in all born again from above .You sound like one of the murmurers.

Philippians 2:13-14 For it is God (not the Pope) which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

Is Christ working in you or rather what you call the legion of patron saints with there oral tradition of dying mankind. ? God or man That what the Holy Spirit said when Peter rebuked God and forbid the Son of man Jesus from doing the will of the some unseen earthly Holy Father. (Matthew 16)

Is it a must you must ignore the teaching of Christ in exchange for what you must call sacred Divine oral traditions of dying mankind found in your bible (CCC #80)

It's easy just stop murmuring. saying. . What about Peter the denier does he count as an infalible teaching master??

He led John warning us of another teaching authority the oral traditions of dying mankind called a law of the fathers (false apostles, bringing false prophecy again that you must call patrons saints (3500 and rising) disembodied spirit god's waiting for the Pope's approval every day .

The same that seduce other to believe we do need dying mankind to teach us .

Who teaches you and brings to your memory the previous thing taught? .Dead Peter as a patron saint.
Will you obey the loving warning below or the legion of gods in the likeness of men ?

1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him (not Peter) abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Seriously do we need dying mankind called fathers to teach us. What does your Bible the CCC teach?

 

[Arch Stanton]

The Holy Spirit that lived in Philip led him just as he works in all born again from above

Born from above = baptism

Is Christ working in you

Yes....

Jn 6:53 Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you DO NOT HAVE LIFE within you.

v 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.

Who teaches you and brings to your memory the previous thing taught?

Christ and His Church

What does your Bible the CCC teach?

They are separate.... have you not learned anything about Christ and His Church yet?

 

[Mr GLee]

Born from above = baptism

Thanks for the reply

Yes H20 to represent the doctrines that fall as water inspired from above not earthly of the devil.

Deuteronomy 32King James Version32 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; (not Peter called a Pope) and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.(not Peter) My doctrine shall drop (not inspired earthly of Rome) as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

Remember without parables the hidden understand, Christ spoke not. In that way we must be careful how we hear or say who it is that we hear , The devil is quick to snatch the born again spiritual seed "Christ" the living word of God

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

You say born again and then introduce Limbo for the little sinners, and purgatory the experienced sinners. . suffering wondering, sufferings wondering with no end the salvation of one soul in sight.

Was mankind born again so they could suffer and wonder for ever more ? Surely you must have scripture to support that kind of idea. That some call the queen mother of heaven named after our sister in the Lord Mary. The queen alone received the fullness of grace the whole price of salvation while the rest of the world a unknown remnant of Grace .That does not sound like the good new gospel to me. Sounds more like doubting.

Clearly H20 represent the unseen work of God, not the work of the Pope, after our brother in the Lord, Peter .earthly dying mankind .

James 3:15 This (Pope) wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.

Using many metaphor to represent in that parble his own unseen sternal Holy Spirit .Rain, dew, small rain, showers that produce green thing (born again)

Splashing liquid on baby that wets themselves. . all evaporites . .

H20 is not the fountain of youth as if we did walk or understand God after the dying temporal things seen. rather than the eternal vision

No man can serve two foundations . salt water to indicate judgement and fresh water (signified as H20) to represent the gospel, the water of the living word .

James 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? Either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.

A good example using manna What is it??? called the hidden manna in Revelation 2:17 It hides the understanding of God from those who seek inspiration from earth, dying mankind

First he brings the dew the cleansing water of the pure word to represent his speech the living word (sola scriptura).Then he brings them together as one living abiding word as it is written (sola scriptura) .

I would offer the living waters of his deep love

John 4:11The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?

Numbers 11:9 And when the dew fell upon the camp in the night, the manna fell upon it.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Thanks for the reply

You're welcome

Yes H20 to represent the doctrines that fall as water inspired from above

baptism now saves you, per scripture [1 Peter 3:21]

A good example using manna What is it???

The new manna; The Eucharist --

Jn 6:55 For MY FLESH IS TRUE FOOD, and my blood is true drink.

 

[Mr GLee]

baptism now saves you, per scripture [1 Peter 3:21]

H20 can save nothing. it represent the doctrines of God inspired from above watered below. H20 evaporates the eternal Holy Spirit of God does not.

Like figure a parable. Not what you see you get as in ;who needs faith the unseen things of God .

A parable is a figure using the temporal things dying things seen to signify. faith Christ in us giving us the eternal vision ,Not Peter in us or the Pope ,

Not seen with the human eye revealed in the parable. we walk (understand or unseen Holy Father. Holy See by his living faith or called a labor of His eternal love. Again the unseen things of God that he reveals to us just as he did to Peter or brother in the lord . Flesh and blood what the eyes see to includes Peter did not reveal the will of the eternal Holy Father. But our unsen Holy Father in heaven did all the revealing from heaven. .Just as he does today with all who are born again of His Holy Spirit.Not tempoel H20. I got wet.


1 Peter 3:21King James Version21 The like figure (parable) whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,(not seen) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: . . .(the power of our invisible Holy Father, Holy See .

The new manna; The Eucharist --

Jn 6:55 For MY FLESH IS TRUE FOOD, and my blood is true drink.

Really brother as that how you understand that parble must you litraize all the parables? You are offering the abomination drinking literal blood that has no spirit life? It must be poured out as the base of the alter. so it can return to the lifeless spiritless dirt . God does no except dead sacrifices. Remember the life of the flesh is in the blood that life is spirit life .The dying flesh a has no life of its own

James 2: 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works(of God) is dead also.

What does dead faith mean to you?

it would seem you fall into the no understanding of aparbles

Matthew 15:17Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?

Mark 7:19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

It must be buried outside of the camp. giving meaning to beelzebub the lord of the flies. . the word they mocked of Jesus, flies or dung cannot enter one's soul

The parable drink the blood eat the flesh is simply a picture of the Holy Spirit signified as water pouring out his Spirit life in jeopardy of his own Spirit life on dying flesh and blood

 

[Arch Stanton]

The new manna; The Eucharist --

Jn 6:55 For MY FLESH IS TRUE FOOD, and my blood is true drink.

Really brother as that how you understand that parble must you litraize all the parables?

Who said it was a parable? Christ? Where?

You are offering the abomination drinking literal blood that has no spirit life?

No, but the Romans believed as you do.... when the accidents remain, there is no blood.

 

[Mr GLee]

Who said it was a parable? Christ? Where?

Did you search for hidden manna as silver or gold?

Christ infallibly prophesied declaring his eternal will . . without parables the signified understanding of prophecy Christ spoke not.

I would think it's up to them who doubt to do more than rake the leaves. .Yoked with him gotta dig a little, compare the things seen the temporal, historical to the unseen eternal things of faith .in that way two working as one witness they (things seen with the unseen

The two witnesses must mixed according to the formula for rightly dividing the parables .

2 Corinthians 4:18King James Version18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

No mix no gospel sabbath rest .

Hebrews 4King James Version4 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

No, but the Romans believed as you do.... when the accidents remain, there is no blood.

Does it come out as draught?

Which Rome the one under the wrath of God puffing up venerating the temporal dying things called patron saints above the Creator who is not a man as Jesus

Roman 1: 25 Who changed the truth of (invisible) God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (son of man Jesus ) more than the Creator, (Holy father Holy See who is blessed for ever. Amen.


what kind a accident

 

[Arch Stanton]

Who said it was a parable? Christ? Where?

Did you search for hidden manna as silver or gold?

So you didn't find the parable, correct?

 

[Mr GLee]

So you didn't find the parable, correct?

I believe I was revealed the hidden manna our daily bread the unseen wil of our Holy Father .

Did you search for the hidden manna as for gold? Got to dig a little. Raking the leaves is to shallow

Revelation2 :17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white (pearl) stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.(pearl)

Hidden manna the golden measure not literal what the eyes see the temporal .

Why golden hidden??

God knew in advance that dying mankind would create as a oral tradition of dying making a succession of dying mankind that some call Apostolic Succession venerated dying flesh . He knew as soon as Moses died they would go back to serving the oral traditions of dying mankind . I heard it through the venerable father grape vine. .

Moses having finished writing( sola scriptura)he was to put it on the side of the golden ark (gold represents faith )"the unseen things of God" The Bible placed on the outside it revealed what was hidden . . as a witness against those who make sola scriptura without effect so they can serve the oral traditions of dying mankind

Deuteronomy 31:24-29 And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying, Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the Lord; and how much more after my death?Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them. For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the Lord, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands.

Exodus 16:31And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: (what is it? and it was like coriander seed, white( pearl) ; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey.

Matthew 13:46 Who, when he had found one "pearl" of great price, went and sold all that he had,(oral traditions of dying mankind) and bought it.(pearl of great price the full price of salvation )

 

[Arch Stanton]

So you didn't find the parable, correct? [from Jn 6]

I believe I was revealed the hidden manna our daily bread the unseen wil of our Holy Father .

I believe Christ....

Jn 6:55 For MY FLESH IS TRUE FOOD, and my blood is true drink.

 

[Mr GLee]

I believe Christ....

Jn 6:55 For MY FLESH IS TRUE FOOD, and my blood is true drink.

What kind of recipe is that? For vampires?

What Kind of true food?. The kind the disciple's knew not of the .Food of the Holy Father that works in Jesus to both reveal the will of our unseen Holy Father and empower sons of God (Christians)strengthening us to do it to his good pleasure.?

Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Or the kind that comes out as draught and cannot enter ones souls? It must be buried outside the camp .

Matthew 15:Do not ye yet understand,(the parable) that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?


John 4:33-35King James Version33 Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat?Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.. . . .THAT TRUE FOOD or the draught.

John 6:27Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.