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Support this!Being drawn overcomes this so that the prospective convert is able to receive Christ.
Support this!Being drawn overcomes this so that the prospective convert is able to receive Christ.
Do you have any doctrines of God at all? Where do you find anywhere in the Bible God being dependant upon His creature to do anything, or asking for their permission before He does it? Anywhere?! If you are going to make stuff up at least make it sound a little bit believable.Yes...a person must make a decision to be unresistant to the Lord before He regenerates them...otherwise when He regenerates them He does so while they are still resistant and makes them unresistant against their will.
Are you serious? Are you really that narrowly read theologically? It would certainly seem to be the case.Why not? Who would you look to?
I do not believe that you are lost spiritually just because you hold to some false concepts of Calvinism.I'm glad you are Saved by Grace, so are we; Grace is one of the 5-Solas. We have this much in common, right?
We have more Calvinism in common than even this; isn't it true that Grace is the Unmerited Favor of God?
No, that is your accusation as a servant of the accuser.... of the brethren. From the beginning of the last two days' posts you've been accusing posters individually and Calvinists en masse, and you've been doing it baselessly, and when asked for evidence we're all told to look in the posts and hundreds of posts have been made and you have not once proven a single accusation. These are the marks of the accuser of the brethren and father of lies. Even when you say, "servant of the accuser" you leave out the important "of our brethren"! Half-truths are not truths at all and lies of omission are just as wrong as lies of commission.No, that is your accusation as a servant of the accuser.
No, she's asking you for your input about your sources, and you've just wasted everyone's time dodging the question when a more positive, functional, contributing, and conversation-furthering alternative was possible. Just answer the question asked. Look at Post 224, too. Commentary provided but it didn't answer the questions asked! Show @justbyfaith a synergist can carry the synergist's side of the conversation well. He could benefit from your example.Are you serious? Are you really that narrowly read theologically? It would certainly seem to be the case.
Well, I am sorry for wasting your time. I suggest that when you see anything posted by me from here on out, you simply skip over it. That way you won't have wasted your time.No, she's asking you for your input about your sources, and you've just wasted everyone's time dodging the question when a more positive, functional, contributing, and conversation-furthering alternative was possible.
You ignored the following evidence before (I know you've been busy) so I will try again ...My statement takes John 6:44 into account. I have said that a person can make a free will decision to receive or reject Christ at whatever juncture that they are being drawn to Christ.
Because being drawn does not guarantee being given. Otherwise, Universalism is the teaching because of John 12:32.
Being drawn to Christ overcomes inability...while it does not guarantee that the person will receive Christ.
It presents an opportunity in which they become able to receive Christ.
Premise 1: Faith cometh by hearingAnd, everyone is drawn at some point (John 12:32).
Perfect...Premise 1: Faith cometh by hearing
Premise 2: Not everyone hears the gospel
Conclusion: No everyone is drawn to Christ
If some people have no chance to know Christ which is a prerequisite of salvation .... how can you say everyone has FREE WILL when it is impossible to will leading to salvation?
By one definition of Calvinism. You do realize that there is no such thing as “Calvinism”, right. John Calvin did not start a denomination or a school of theology that bears his name. When one says “Calvinism” and really means “Reformed Theology” it is a very different thing than when one says “Calvinism” and means monergistic (TULIP) soteriology. As a Particular Baptist, I would completely agree with Monergism (TULIP) and completely disagree with Reformed Theology (Presbyterian) baptism of babies as part of Covenant Theology.Therefore, Calvinism is to a very great extent based on the acronym TULIP.
Technically, John 6:44 does say that being drawn to Christ does guarantee being raised by Christ at the last day. There are other verses in that area of John 6 that equate “the will of God” and “drawn to Christ” and “believing in Christ” and “the Father giving to the Son” as all interrelated and inseparable.John 6:44 specifically says that no one can come to Christ unless they are drawn...not that being drawn to Christ guarantees that they will come to Christ.
A collection of theological doctrines from the 1500’s originating from treatises published in Latin COULD NOT POSSIBLY be based upon an English acronym (T.U.L.I.P.) created in the early 1900’s.and vice versa.
The main problem is that people don't use All Scripture to come to Good Doctrine. It doesn't matter if the Verse says or doesn't say we will be raised up on the Last Day, since another Verse says we will be. ~ Sola Scriptura!Technically, John 6:44 does say that being drawn to Christ does guarantee being raised by Christ at the last day. There are other verses in that area of John 6 that equate “the will of God” and “drawn to Christ” and “believing in Christ” and “the Father giving to the Son” as all interrelated and inseparable.
Here is post #120, in which you quote yourself. How does that show what you assert, in which you assume someone saying we are forced to sin and that obedience is not a choice?Reply #120
How does Paul, Jesus and John saying that no one could be free from sinning, translate to, "that we are forced to sin, and that obedience is not a choice."?Yes, Paul did. So did Jesus and John.
The mind, which is from the spirit, is our emotions and will.The will is our flesh. Our flesh does not do anything independently of our will and vice versa.
No; if those who are drawn are given (it is granted to them of the Father to come to Christ), then all who are drawn are given;What it specifically says is
Those drawn to Chris are the ones granted to by the Father. We know this because He says He will raise him up in the last day. YOu simply have an incorrect understanding of what Jesus means by drawn. But here Jesus tells us what He means. Those granted Him by the Father.
That has always been my belief.See, that wasn't so hard; was it?
Wouldn't you say that people are Totally Unable to come to Christ on their own, until the Grace which Draws them appears?
I care about you so I am not going to stop unless someone else puts a stop to me (as all of my posts are rooted in the love of the Lord).Just stop! You are wrong and you are just arguing. Stop beating a dead horse.
How about the Aztecs; we're they drawn to Christ?That has always been my belief.
Again, all are drawn to Christ at some point (John 12:32).
We can only come to Christ during the window of opportunity that is given to us when we are drawn to Christ.