Eve's Name

[Red Baker]

Eve's name.

According to Genesis 3:20....

Genesis 3:20
Now the man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living.

Eve wasn't named until after the fall (but before they couple were discharged from the garden). What are we to make of that? Was she nameless prior to Gen. 3:20? Did the man and the woman call each other "man" and "woman" before then?

Actually Adam and Eve both were named Adam by God.

Genesis 5:2​

“Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.”

Just Like my wife and I are called Mr. and Mrs. D. W. Baker

But, Adam called her name Eve, because she was indeed the mother all living.

 

[Red Baker]

Was she nameless prior to Gen. 3:20?

No~Genesis 5:2

 

[Mr GLee]

Hi everyone,

I wrote this recent spate of inquiries for everyone's delight. Because scripture is silent on these matters the answers are, necessarily, going to be ones of speculation. The inquiries were intended to provoke a little thought, some consideration of scripture, some enjoyable conversation among us, and the opportunity to discuss some things in light-hearted manner (as opposed to the more serious and sometimes rancorous topics of salvation, end times, or the Trinity).

I do not think there is an answer to this op's inquiry.

Were I to venture an answer I, personally, suggest Adam's words serve as an example of sin's effect, not something God is stating as truth about Eve. The words are found in God's Word, but the words aren't God's words. God's Word is telling us what Adam said and, presumably, what Adam thought after he had disobeyed God, and sin and death had come upon him. One of the reasons I do not think Adam's words are Christologically soteriological (have to do with salvation in Christ) is because of Paul's comment in 1 Tim. 2:15, women will be saved through childbearing...... if they continue in the faith, love and holiness with self-restraint. In other words, those women are all already saved Christologically. They already have faith in Christ, they already know the love of God found therein and they are already holy = separated for sacred purpose. Paul is not saying a non-believing female can have salvation from sin by having babies. That would be salvation by works. However, perhaps I am wrong. Perhaps there is an answer found in the whole of God's Word and we need to continue investigating.


As far as this op goes, however, the op has served its purpose, and I appreciate everyone's participation. I hope the opportunity to have a little light-hearted speculation and fun was realized.


Mods, you can decide whether to close the thread accordingly or leave it open for future speculation and fun .
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Hi I would offer. Another perspective.

The Christian bride as the priesthood of believers. Sent them as apostles like Timothy a member of the chase virgin bride sends them two by two. The chaste virgin bride suffering like Paul with Timothy in birth pain in a hope Christ will be formed in in him

.In that way the bride will be saved in childbirth preaching the gospel

Adam to represent Christ the invisible head and Eve the chaste virgin bride called the mother of us all .

The commandment came from the father given to Adam who was to represent our unseen God Adam and not Eve was given the loving commandment not to eat from the tree hidden in the garden as a parable .

Satan knowing Eve was the weaker vessel as a priestess preach the word of God added four litle words of false prophecy .Adam failed to warn Eve . The "lust of the flesh" drew them to the hidden tree to see "lust of the eye" the two building blocks of false pride

Do not lust after woman or men with lust the creator of adultery'.

Look do not touch .

Then having touched and not dying instantly they both ate the fruit of the dead .

Adding or subtracting to the word of God (sola scriptura) with false prophecy cause of the fall.

The development of the priesthood of believers Chaste virgin bride

Exodus 7King James Version7 And the Lord said unto Moses(Adam) , See, I have made thee(Adam) a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron (Eve) thy brother shall be thy (Adam) prophet. Thou (Adam) shalt speak all that I command thee: and Aaron(Eve the priestess )thy brother shall speak unto Pharaoh, that he send the children of Israel out of his land.

 

[donadams]

Mary is eve in reverse!

Ave or “Hail Mary”!

The angelic salutation!

Mary is the mother of all those living in Christ by grace in the new creation!

 

[Arial]

Mary is eve in reverse!

Ave or “Hail Mary”!

The angelic salutation!

Mary is the mother of all those living in Christ by grace in the new creation!

Magical thinking. No biblical support. Heresy.

 

[Mr GLee]

Mary is eve in reverse!

Ave or “Hail Mary”!

The angelic salutation!

Mary is the mother of all those living in Christ by grace in the new creation!

"Hi" (Hail) Mary

That's the Catholics gospel according to the Catholic Bible (CCC) oral traditons of dying mankind .Making the word of God without efect.(wrong Bible)

Teaching the non venerable pew warmers that some Queen mother named after our chaste virgin sister in the Lord Mary that alone received the fulness of grace the whole cost of salvation The rest of the world its off to Limbo for the younger sinners and purgatory for the more mature. The wondering, wondering, marveling salvation ?????.

Sons of God as new creatures make up the mother of us all . Paul as a surrogate mother suffered in labor pain until Christ was formed in Timothy another member of the chaste virgin bride like our blessed sister in the Lord Mary .

Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

Galatians 4:26 But Jerusalem (Christian) which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you (Timothyas a chaste virgin to Christ.

Christians as chaste virgins they learn they will receive a new body no longer male nor female Jew nor gentile. They do not teach the ressurection on the last day has passed.

Are you a member of the chaste virgin bride the church ?

Can't serve two mothers Jesus the Son of man is not ashamed to call His new family all of his brothers sister and mothers .

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, (and chaste virgin mother.)

 

[David Lamb]

Mary is eve in reverse!

Ave or “Hail Mary”!

The angelic salutation!

Mary is the mother of all those living in Christ by grace in the new creation!

Where in the bible are we taught to to turn names back to front to get their meanings.or that Mary is the mother of all those living in Christ? Also, you say, "Ave or hail Mary," as though you think the Latin word "ave" means "Hail Mary." It doesn't; it just means "hail."

 

[Red Baker]

Magical thinking. No biblical support. Heresy.

I leave such people to themselves, they do not want to be converted to the truth, no use even wasting precious time attempting to convert them.

Mary was greatly honored, all would agree, yet, she needed a savior just just any other sinner ~ you, me, a person possess with many devils.

I will one day I'll sit down with her in the kingdom of God, yet I do not desire to sit with her any more than I do with the thief on the cross! Selah.

Why is that so? It took the same grace to get us all there, so, why would I even desire any one above another, that would be showing like of gratitude for the Lord Jesus' life, death and resurrection, with his precious life blood being the only means of all of the elect of God inheriting eternal life in the world to come.

 

[donadams]

Magical thinking. No biblical support. Heresy.

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

Hail in latin is ave!

 

[donadams]

Where in the bible are we taught to to turn names back to front to get their meanings.or that Mary is the mother of all those living in Christ? Also, you say, "Ave or hail Mary," as though you think the Latin word "ave" means "Hail Mary." It doesn't; it just means "hail."

Why does it need to be in the bible?

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

 

[Mr GLee]

Why does it need to be in the bible?

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

Are not all born again believers full of grace?

Why does it need to be in the CCC? The Catholics Bible.

 

[Mr GLee]

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

Hail in latin is ave!

Latin a dead language .

Hail = be heathy

Are you full of grace? Or full of Limbo Purgatory ?

 

[Arial]

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

Hail in latin is ave!

And?

 

[David Lamb]

Why does it need to be in the bible?

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

Well, the bible is God's word, His revelation to mankind. If something is as seemingly important as "ave" in Latin being the reverse of "Eva", a variation of "Eve" and therefore some indication of Mary being a sort of "second Eve," I would expect there to be some mention of it in the bible. I don't see that the angel saying "Hail" to Mary, probably in Aramaic, not Latin, means anything more than a greeting. It was a common greeting. We read of Caesar being addressed with the actual Latin word; people would say, "Ave Caesar!" but that doesn't mean we start making connections between Caesar and Eve.

 

[Mr GLee]

Why does it need to be in the bible?

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

Why does it need to be in the bible?

Why the living abiding word of God?

Why even ask ???

Do you have another writen authority that makes sola scriptura without effect ?

No invisible creation called angels .No "let there be a invisible creation" and there was "no good witness" of faith .The uneseen power of Christ unto salvation.

The law of faith "let there be" and "it the power of God was the good witness of God alone" .

God has no needs but satisfies all .He is not served by the peanut galley some call angels .

He can prophecy through sending a Ass as a apostle (sent messenger) Apostle the ones with beautiful feet. . used in ceremonial laws to represent the unredeemed. The Ass must be redeemed with a lamb or break the neck of the Ass

Exodus 13:13 And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.

Numbers 22:28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, (the prophecy) What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

It would seem angels as Asses or called patron saints

The word is not angel a fake word. The Greek aggelos sounds the same. But like the word apostles (sent messengers)a entirely different meaning. Making the word of God without efect .

As a pagan tradition both the word sent messenger (apostle) and the idea of not dying but rather sufferings in Limbo for the babies younger sinners and Purgatory for the more mature sinner . Wonder, wonder, wonder. Teaching the non venerable pew warmers only the queen mother received the whole cost of salvation the rest of the planet eternal wondering wondering wondering

In the end establishing the legion of disembodied workers with a familiar spirit gods . as personal relationships with patron angels . 3,511 and rising patron angels.

It is Christ in us not a legion of make believe gods some call Holy Fathers .

Using the word angel(fake word) just confuses the matter. . takes away the glory of Christ in us.

His name is Jealous he alone owns all things .

The Holy Spirit entered our blessed by Christ's mercy and grace sister Mary just as Jesus the Son of man. Not as I will no power. But you Holy Father the one with all faithful power .

A man must be born again from above.


Wonder or marvel not. Why give elegances to the king of lying sign to wonder, wonder, wonder

Prophecy sealed up till the end of time for the believers. . No need to wonder, wonder, wonder as if it was prophecy

 

[donadams]

Ceasar is not the
Mother of “our salvation”!

 

[Mr GLee]

Ceasar is not the
Mother of “our salvation”!

Do you mean the whole church the surrogate mother. Like Paul sobering in pains of birth until Christ is formed in the caste vining bride Timothy

19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you

26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more (born again spiritual) children than she which hath an husband.(flesh and blood)

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Don are you a member as a chaste virgin?

Our blessed sister in the Lord Mary was in the family of God, They call no man on earth Holy Father. One is not seen he works in the believer.

Yoked with His our daily burden of hell can be lighter with a living abiding hope beyond the grave .

Mary our sister in the Lord like all believer died not receive the promise of a new incorruptible body.

Neither male no gentile, Jew not gentile

 

[donadams]

Well, the bible is God's word, His revelation to mankind. If something is as seemingly important as "ave" in Latin being the reverse of "Eva", a variation of "Eve" and therefore some indication of Mary being a sort of "second Eve," I would expect there to be some mention of it in the bible. I don't see that the angel saying "Hail" to Mary, probably in Aramaic, not Latin, means anything more than a greeting. It was a common greeting. We read of Caesar being addressed with the actual Latin word; people would say, "Ave Caesar!" but that doesn't mean we start making connections between Caesar and Eve.

You don’t see Mary’s faithfulness reversing eve’s unfaithfulness?

Lk 1:45

IRENAEUS​

“Consequently, then, Mary the Virgin is found to be obedient, saying, ‘Behold, O Lord, your handmaid; be it done to me according to your word.’ Eve, however, was disobedient, and, when yet a virgin, she did not obey. Just as she, who was then still a virgin although she had Adam for a husband—for in paradise they were both naked but were not ashamed; for, having been created only a short time, they had no understanding of the procreation of children, and it was necessary that they first come to maturity before beginning to multiply—having become disobedient, was made the cause of death for herself and for the whole human race; so also Mary, betrothed to a man but nevertheless still a virgin, being obedient, was made the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race. . . . Thus, the knot of Eve’s disobedience was loosed by the obedience of Mary. What the virgin Eve had bound in unbelief, the Virgin Mary loosed through faith” (Against Heresies 3:22:24 [A.D. 189]).

Thks

 

[David Lamb]

You don’t see Mary’s faithfulness reversing eve’s unfaithfulness?

Lk 1:45

Mary was faithful, so were other women in the bible such as Ruth. What I don't see us any idea that this could possibly be shown by the fact that the Latin word for "hail" is Ave, and a version (in English) of Eve is Eva. Eve, as named in the original Hebrew Old Testament, was Chavvah.

 

[donadams]

Mary was faithful, so were other women in the bible such as Ruth. What I don't see us any idea that this could possibly be shown by the fact that the Latin word for "hail" is Ave, and a version (in English) of Eve is Eva. Eve, as named in the original Hebrew Old Testament, was Chavvah.

Christ is our salvation! Lk 2:30
Mary is the mother of our salvation!
Found our salvation! Lk 1:30
Consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38
Immaculate conception preserved from all sin by God! Gen 3:15 Lk 1:28 rev 12:1
God provided a means salvation to men thru Mary!
Mother of our savior / salvation!

Mother of God:
Immaculate conception:
Assumption:
Perpetual virgin are all in Luke one