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Alpha & Omega?

How can find out what each one believes without asking questions?
I did not tell you to not ask questions. And I feel confident that you know I did not. It is a way of being able to continue to do what you were doing by pretending you do not understand. Here is what I said. I will highlight in red my point.
You and @1Thess521 do not mean the same thing by church. So the question is unfair. Kind of like asking have you stopped beating your wife? If he agrees, which I am sure he does, now you have him agreeing with something he most likely does not agree with. By church you mean the Catholic church which if he agreed to that would be saying Jesus Christ is the head of the Catholic church, (and only the Catholic church.) Stop being deceptive in that way.
I cautioned you about this yesterday. So now it just seems like game playing. All the PM's complaining about moderation and you not understanding, having things explained to you again and again, and still you persist with this baffled attitude about it. Are you petitioning for a vacation?
 
Are believers Christians?
Yes.
Can you be saved without a priest?
There is one Savior and one mediating, cleansing Priest, and that is Jesus.

So when you say priest you mean Catholic priest and the answer to that is yes we can be saved without a Catholic priest., and we are NEVER saved by a Catholic priest. More deception and game playing. What good does it do you if we agree to these types of fallacious questions and you know that we do not mean the same thing as you do---and you also know what it is we mean?
 
Sounds like the spiritualism of the gnostics, who is the head of this church?

Thks
Do you read the Bible?
Christ is the Head.
“He is also the head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.”


(Colossians 1:18 NAS20)


 
Head of the church
King
And mediator

All imply a hierarchical authority!

Thks
the issue is you are claiming the authority of your Church is the same as the authority of God:
that is not a hierarchical authority.

Q: Are God-breathed writings (Scriptures) as authoritative as God speaking from His Throne or God-Incarnate giving a Sermon on a Mount?
A: I say yes: what do you say?

Q: Is your Church as authoritative as God-breathed writings (Scriptures)?
A: I say no: what do you say?

in summary
Scripture is as authoritative as God.
God is more authoritative than any church.
therefore Scripture is more authoritative than any church.
 
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the issue is you are claiming the authority of your Church is the same as the authority of God:
that is not a hierarchical authority.

Q: Are God-breathed writings (Scriptures) as authoritative as God speaking from His Throne or God-Incarnate giving a Sermon on a Mount?
A: I say yes: what do you say?

Q: Is your Church as authoritative as God-breathed writings (Scriptures)?
A: I say no: what do you say?

in summary
Scripture is as authoritative as God.
God is more authoritative than any church.
therefore Scripture is more authoritative than any church.
I asked before but you ignore!

Is it God-breathed that gives it authority?
 
I asked before but you ignore!

Is it God-breathed that gives it authority?
Yes: God -breathed writings have the authority of God Himself speaking.
Answered
Your turn
Q: Are God-breathed writings (Scriptures) as authoritative as God speaking from His Throne or God-Incarnate giving a Sermon on a Mount?

Q: Is your Church as authoritative as God-breathed writings (Scriptures)?
 
This is another one of those very simple things that even a child can grasp.
God desires His Sons understand Him and His Plans for us, so far as is possible.
He did this through the canon which He providentially made sure was appropriate.
We have in scripture all we need as the Paraclete sheds Light upon it.
We either Trust this, or not.
 
Yes: God -breathed writings have the authority of God Himself speaking.
Answered
Your turn
Q: Are God-breathed writings (Scriptures) as authoritative as God speaking from His Throne or God-Incarnate giving a Sermon on a Mount?

Q: Is your Church as authoritative as God-breathed writings (Scriptures)?
Then you must believe the apostolic church that is God breathed!

Jn 20:21-23

Including the power to forgive dun against God!

As i said before it equal cos “IT IS OF DIVINE ORIGIN”! It is God’s church!

Fo you agree that the apostolic church taught the word of God?
Acts 13:5

Yes how?

The first scripture was not written for 30 plus years and the canon not approved by the apostolic authority till 381
 
Then you must believe the apostolic church that is God breathed!

Jn 20:21-23

Including the power to forgive dun against God!

As i said before it equal cos “IT IS OF DIVINE ORIGIN”! It is God’s church!

Fo you agree that the apostolic church taught the word of God?
Acts 13:5

Yes how?

The first scripture was not written for 30 plus years and the canon not approved by the apostolic authority till 381
i asked this:
Q: Are God-breathed writings (Scriptures) as authoritative as God speaking from His Throne or God-Incarnate giving a Sermon on a Mount?

Q: Is your Church as authoritative as God-breathed writings (Scriptures)?
 
i asked this:
Q: Are God-breathed writings (Scriptures) as authoritative as God speaking from His Throne or God-Incarnate giving a Sermon on a Mount?

Q: Is your Church as authoritative as God-breathed writings (Scriptures)?
I answered your direct
Question

Your turn do men have power to forgive sin?
 
I answered your direct
Question
show me where this was answered.
Q: Are God-breathed writings (Scriptures) as authoritative as God speaking from His Throne or God-Incarnate giving a Sermon on a Mount?

Q: Is your Church as authoritative as God-breathed writings (Scriptures)?
 
Your turn do men have power to forgive sin?
Bible Study 101:
Scripture cannot contradict Scripture (agreed?)
if a verse can be interpreted in various ways (ex: literal or figurative) the interpretation that contradicts other Scriptures must be in err

Mark 2:7
“Why does this man speak like that? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

Luke 5:21 21 The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, “Who is this fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

re: John 20:23
It is this context which frames Jesus' remark about forgiveness: this declaration comes because these men are being reminded and guided by the Spirit of God. In no sense, at all, does Christ mean that forgiveness of sin is being determined by the disciples, or that they are choosing whether to absolve others of sin.
The original Greek language uses more easily defined verb tenses, so it comes across more clearly, emphasizing that such sins "have already been forgiven" or "have already been retained." Guided by the truth of the Holy Spirit and in keeping with His truth, these men will be able to accurately declare whether others are abiding by those truths.
 
The first scripture was not written for 30 plus years and the canon not approved by the apostolic authority till 381
What are you talking about?

The first scripture were written about 1400 BC!!!!
 
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This is another one of those very simple things that even a child can grasp.
God desires His Sons understand Him and His Plans for us, so far as is possible.
He did this through the canon which He providentially made sure was appropriate.
We have in scripture all we need as the Paraclete sheds Light upon it.
We either Trust this, or not.
This “canon” come from Christ’s church the apostolic authority who decided the canon!


Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church to teach and sanctify (baptize) all men unto eternal salvation! (Matt 28:19)

Christ and His church are one!
((Inseparable authority & unity))
Acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 eph 5:32 Isa 53:5 Jn 15:4-5 eph 5:24 Jn 20:21-23

The paraclete leads the apostles into all truth Jn 16:13 and they teach us Matt 28:19

Christians must be taught!

Lk 1:4
Matt 5:14
Matt 6:33
Matt 28:19
Lk 10:16
Jn 20:21
Acts 2:42
Acts 16:17
Acts 8:31
Titus 1:9
Titus 2:12
Phil 4:9
Colossians 2:7

Thks
 
Bible Study 101:
Scripture cannot contradict Scripture (agreed?)
if a verse can be interpreted in various ways (ex: literal or figurative) the interpretation that contradicts other Scriptures must be in err

Mark 2:7
“Why does this man speak like that? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

Luke 5:21 21 The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, “Who is this fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

re: John 20:23
It is this context which frames Jesus' remark about forgiveness: this declaration comes because these men are being reminded and guided by the Spirit of God. In no sense, at all, does Christ mean that forgiveness of sin is being determined by the disciples, or that they are choosing whether to absolve others of sin.
The original Greek language uses more easily defined verb tenses, so it comes across more clearly, emphasizing that such sins "have already been forgiven" or "have already been retained." Guided by the truth of the Holy Spirit and in keeping with His truth, these men will be able to accurately declare whether others are abiding by those truths.
Until God gives this power to His apostles! Jn 20:23

Did Christ change the commandments?
 
This “canon” come from Christ’s church the apostolic authority who decided the canon!
Do you mean the Catholic church?!!!
Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church to teach and sanctify (baptize) all men unto eternal salvation! (Matt 28:19)

Christ and His church are one!
((Inseparable authority & unity))
Acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 eph 5:32 Isa 53:5 Jn 15:4-5 eph 5:24 Jn 20:21-23
Do you mean the Catholic church?!!!!
The paraclete leads the apostles into all truth Jn 16:13 and they teach us Matt 28:19
Do you mean the apostles according to the Catholic church who includes her hierarchy as successors of the Bible apostles and equal in authority of teaching?!!!!
Christians must be taught!
Are the words God gives us in Scripture insufficient for teaching? And is any teaching my pastors, writiers, etc. subject to that teaching. Subject to means must be in agreement with.
Lk 1:4
Matt 5:14
Matt 6:33
Matt 28:19
Lk 10:16
Jn 20:21
Acts 2:42
Acts 16:17
Acts 8:31
Titus 1:9
Titus 2:12
Phil 4:9
Colossians 2:7
Where is the application? Where is the exposition?
 
do you mean the Ten Commandments? of course not:
Really? Please read matt 5

21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
 
Really? Please read matt 5

21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Thank you!!!!
Jesus just pointed out it is your heart(thoughts) that convict you: Not what you do!!!

Continuing on in the Sermon on the Mount
7: 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Look at those good works done in the name of Christ.
When the omniscient Judge of All says He doesn't know you: He is talking about a relationship.
Once again: Jesus points out that it is not what was done ; but it is a heart issue.
 
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