CrowCross
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Kinda strange....you take day 6 as literal but not the other 5 days.I don't. You have never read that from me.
Kinda strange....you take day 6 as literal but not the other 5 days.I don't. You have never read that from me.
I beat you to it in the very disappointed department.I think you are being very rude and proud. As if you know all truth and anyone who disagrees with you is wrong or evil. I’m very disappointed
Yes, it's a theory. Keep in mind you've never explained why God didn't say He got rid of the clouds....and the sun appeared. This is an assumption made on your part....and then the assumption is passed off as biblical fact.Yep. It's just as weird of the water canopy theory (Genesis 1:6-8a).
I agreeI disagree.
The Sun is already created through the "stretching out" (Job 9:8; Psalm 104:2; Isaiah 40:22; 44:24; 45:12; 48:13; 51:13; Jeremiah 10:12; 51:15; and Zechariah 12:1). And through this stretching out God has fine-tuned all the laws, constants, and equations of physics for life to exist on earth.
1. The lights from space was already present and shinning but could not pass through the early earth's atmosphere. It would be like standing on the planet Venus and looking up. You would not be able to see any lights from space because of the oblique atmosphere. So when God said, "Let there be light;" he is not creating the sun's light itself since the sun is already there, rather the early earth's atmosphere changes from oblique to translucent atmosphere. And the earth's atmosphere would naturally take an unspecified long period of time to change.
2. It was enough light to separate "light" from "darkness" but when looking up into space you still would not be able to see any moons, stars, and planets. You cannot see visible objects in space from a translucent atmosphere. Now in Genesis 1:14-18, the plant life was already created and need light to grow. The plants were giving off oxygen into the atmosphere. After an unspecified long period of time the atmosphere became transparent to the point that our sun and moon, and the planets and stars was made visible. Not made in the sense of created, but made to appear so that you can mark the seasons, days, and years.
Also, it’s obvious this one part is not proof of an old earth. But it sure was there. To say it was created on day 4 or 5 has no Scripture backing what so ever.I disagree.
The Sun is already created through the "stretching out" (Job 9:8; Psalm 104:2; Isaiah 40:22; 44:24; 45:12; 48:13; 51:13; Jeremiah 10:12; 51:15; and Zechariah 12:1). And through this stretching out God has fine-tuned all the laws, constants, and equations of physics for life to exist on earth.
1. The lights from space was already present and shinning but could not pass through the early earth's atmosphere. It would be like standing on the planet Venus and looking up. You would not be able to see any lights from space because of the oblique atmosphere. So when God said, "Let there be light;" he is not creating the sun's light itself since the sun is already there, rather the early earth's atmosphere changes from oblique to translucent atmosphere. And the earth's atmosphere would naturally take an unspecified long period of time to change.
2. It was enough light to separate "light" from "darkness" but when looking up into space you still would not be able to see any moons, stars, and planets. You cannot see visible objects in space from a translucent atmosphere. Now in Genesis 1:14-18, the plant life was already created and need light to grow. The plants were giving off oxygen into the atmosphere. After an unspecified long period of time the atmosphere became transparent to the point that our sun and moon, and the planets and stars was made visible. Not made in the sense of created, but made to appear so that you can mark the seasons, days, and years.
If every little detail was explained in scripture I’m pretty sure you would be an old earth believer.1. The lights from space was already present and shinning but could not pass through the early earth's atmosphere......The bible doesn't teach this. This is something added.
Yes, it's a theory. Keep in mind you've never explained why God didn't say He got rid of the clouds....and the sun appeared. This is an assumption made on your part....and then the assumption is passed off as biblical fact.
I can say the same.I'm quoting Scripture and believing what it says. You are spouting contradictory opinions and disbelieving what the Bible says.
And what does that prove? NothingI beat you to it in the very disappointed department.
Point me to where.You are contradicting what God's word plainly teaches, whilst naming the name of Christ. I've been pointing that out (and I've been trying to contain my anger).
If I don’t agree with you, I’m calling God a liar? That’s pretty arrogantI have not claimed to "know all truth", so your are lying AGAIN; and it's nothing to do with disagreeing with me; it's because you are, in effect, calling God a liar.
Maybe we both do.You need to repent.
Arrogance!You have posted your lies openly (and they could affect any young Christians who might be reading), so they are being challenged openly.
details such as???If every little detail was explained in scripture I’m pretty sure you would be an old earth believer.
The bible doesn't say "made to appear". That is something you have added. In other words, it's not described that way in the bible.Common sense. I didn't say God got rid of the clouds. Putting words in my mouth so to speak. But that the word "made" in the Biblical sense means "to appear." You think the sun just suddenly and instantaneously appeared without going through any progressive development? What was created first, the heaven (with all its stars, planets, galaxies) or the earth? You think heaven was an empty space and earth was only there for 3 whole days? You need to learn some basic science.
Also, it’s obvious this one part is not proof of an old earth. But it sure was there. To say it was created on day 4 or 5 has no Scripture backing what so ever.
Well that is the only way he can hope to prove it. What it actually is, is, his lack of understanding.Common sense. I didn't say God got rid of the clouds. Putting words in my mouth so to speak.
Soldier onBut that the word "made" in the Biblical sense means "to appear." You think the sun just suddenly and instantaneously appeared without going through any progressive development? What was created first, the heaven (with all its stars, planets, galaxies) or the earth? You think heaven was an empty space and earth was only there for 3 whole days? You need to learn some basic science.
I have....basic science says a dead man doesn't back to life on day 3. basic science says an axe doesn't float. basic science say a stick can become a snake....need more?You think heaven was an empty space and earth was only there for 3 whole days? You need to learn some basic science.
Of course. It’s part of the heavens after all." Obviously, the moon was already there too.
Do you know the difference between a secular science and creation science?I have....basic science says a dead man doesn't back to life on day 3. basic science says an axe doesn't float. basic science say a stick can become a snake....need more?
I have....basic science says a dead man doesn't back to life on day 3. basic science says an axe doesn't float. basic science say a stick can become a snake....need more?
The bible say....9 And God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good.It is the Old Earth creation model. There are many parts of the model, and that one part is certainly proof. ?Its like saying, "the dry land appear without the gravity of the moon." Obviously, the moon was already there too.
It sounds like you're saying the theories of secular science trump what the bible says......heck, even secular science says man evolved from lesser primates. I would imagine you believe the bible also got that wrong.Do you know the difference between a secular science and creation science?
If you believed the bible you would see your theory isn't biblical. That's the obvious point.Avoiding questions? If you knew basic science, then you would see the obvious of my post.