Are you referring to @Mr GLee asking, "What is it about your God?"
I'll go there. I may be a little "Halloween" busy today...
I'd copy your whole post and transfer it to that thread.
Yes and he explained himself and I accept that he did not mean it in the way I corrected it. I have never seen him resort to comments that that could be taken as. I even knew that when I responded as I did. But it is something often stated in refuting opposition with the implication of disagreement means a different god. So I took the opportunity to point it out and to hopefully cause us to be more careful. Even if English is not the first language of any poster there is a better way of asking the question if it is not being accusatory. @ReverendRV was simply making a statement of reaction to what was posted, not a statement about God, so the question @Mr GLee was not really about the posters God but "Why do you say that?" Or "What do you mean?"Are you referring to @Mr GLee asking, "What is it about your God?"
He was responding to:
ReverendRV said:
Oh my God!
He only wanted to know why @ReverendRV said that, I think.
Not to embarrass Mr. GLee, but if I remember correctly, English is not his first language. I'm bilingual myself, and I recognize the language patterns he uses as being from another place.
If he has language issues, I'm sorry. He said Jesus doesn't have the Power to Draw people...Are you referring to @Mr GLee asking, "What is it about your God?"
He was responding to:
ReverendRV said:
Oh my God!
He only wanted to know why @ReverendRV said that, I think.
Not to embarrass Mr. GLee, but if I'm right, English is not his first language. I'm bilingual myself, and I recognize the language patterns he uses as being from another place, and a very different way of expressing himself.
I'm more curious why Rev said, "Oh my God!". If he was remarking on what Mr GLee said —"Not the son of man will raise us up he has no power. Power comes from the Father alone."— I'm pretty sure Lee's meaning would have been more clear if he had said that Jesus did nothing in and of himself, but only by the power of the Father.
Can you put that post #45 in the other thread without taking it out of this thread? I ask because in this thread you answered a question I asked in this thread.
Candy in moderation!!
I can't speak for @Mr GLee 's theology —perhaps he really believes that for eternity the Son has only the power of the Father through which to do anything— but it sounded to me like maybe he could have been more clear if he had changed the tense of, "he has no power," to, "he had no power".
I actually was trying to say Jesus the Son of man has no power living in a body of death. I did not say Jesus as the Christ the power than worked in the Son of man Jesus . . . does not have the power to draw .Christ drew his son as man Jesus .
Sorry, I'll cut you some slack...
That's roughly how I've always seen it (at least since I learned about God's sovereignty in salvation).
Thanks I will need twice.as much slack as a slower one
That is why----and I have seen it like this for a long time---everything about our life is serving a purpose in leading us to Christ. God has had His eye on us even in our mother's womb. We don't always see how different parts of our life were serving that purpose, and we never see all of it and perfectly. God is so multifaceted and everything working together that is impossible to apprehend but a speck of anything really.
I would say the irresistible simply means that when all is said and done, you will be saved. Whatever road that takes, you are going to find yourself on it. If God draws you to Christ, you will end up there, and there is nothing you can do about it. (God controls our circumstances right?) I have learned that there is a lot more to it, but the underlying answer is that God is at the beginning of every road, and at the end. (And at the rest stop in the middle, if you want to go really deep)
Jesus is saying that He will raise men up at the last day. It doesn't say that no man will be raised up except the Father which hath sent Me raises Him up. Jesus says that NO man comes to Jesus [to be raised up], except that the Father draws man to Jesus, and Jesus will raise him up at the last day. Why? Because Jesus is the one who is coming back to gather up His elect, those drawn to Him by the Father.
Just seeing this now for some reason. Thanks.
Not that I agree with @GLee , but when Jesus did miracles he did not do them by his own power, but by the power of "his God".
The power of the Holy Spirit.
