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A priest of Christ is a worshiper of Christ

Because of your confirmation bias way of reading the scriptures, that you also studied and immersed yourself in for decades.

You keep repeating that scripture, which is in the middle of a sentence, devoid of all context surrounding it and logic, and a great deal of the rest of the Bible teaching on Jesus, as though it forms the solid basis for an entire doctrine. Let's at least start in verse 27. And he came in the Spirit into the temple, and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for HIm according to the custom of the law, he too Him up in his arms and blessed God and said, "Lord, no you are letting your servant depart in peace, according to our word; for my eyes have seen your salvation that you have prepared in the presence of all the peoples, a light for revelation to the Gentiles, and for glory to your people Israel."
Jesus in His person is the Savior that brings the promised salvation to Jew and Gentile. To conclude that His person is salvation (for then He would not have to do the work of salvation, His being here would be enough)and therefore Mary is the mother of our salvation or the mother of salvation (the person) is defies all laws of grammar, reason, cognition, logic and common sense.

You are really stretching the meaning of those passages to make them fit what? Doing what you are doing has a name, which I used previously. It is called confirmation bias. You make everything you read fit what you already believe.

One is saved by a Priest and there is only one mediator between God and man and that is Jesus Christ. 1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus---
Heb 6:19-20 We have this as a sure and steadfast anchor of the soul, a hope that enters into the inner place, having become a high priest forever after the order of Melchizedek
Hebrews 7:23-25 The former priests were many in number, because they were prevented by death from continuing in office, but He holds HIs priesthood permanently, because He continues forever. Consequently, He is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.


Only Jesus.
Is Jesus Christ high priest?

Maybe it’s you who have Protestant colored glasses

Christ and His church are one and inseparable! Acts 9:4 Jn 15:5 eph 5:24 eph 5:32
 
2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

All 73 books in the apostolic church approved canon even one word!

But it says nothing about context

Jn 15:5
5 for without me ye can do nothing.

Is that true, or only true with the whole verse? Or whole chapter or whole book?

Jn 3 is about baptismal regeneration

According to the context (subject matter) of ex 20 there are only 9 commandments

What is there about the “context” of Jn 14 that make Jesus “not” the way, the truth, and the life???

Thanks
 
Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles! The apostles have the same mission, ministry, power, and authority as Christ! Jn 20:21 as the father sent me, so I send you!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28 and 1 cor 6:2
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
Jn 17:22 / rom 2:10 / 1 pet 1:7 Christ shares His glory with His saints!
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
Must hear church Matt 18:18
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
His authority in governing the church and administering the kingdom!
Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 Jn 21:17
Lk 22:29
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
Acts 2:42 doctrine of the apostles!
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Christ shares His glory! 2 thes 1:10 rev 12:1

The pillar and foundation of TRUTH!
1 Tim 3:15

The TWO EDGE SWORD!
To proclaim the truth! Matt 28:19
To condemn error! 1 cor 16:22

Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church for the salvation of all men! (Jn 1:16-17) Christ is the truth! (Jn 14:6) Christ and his church are one!
(Acts 9;4 Jn 15:1 eph 5:32)
The church is the pillar of truth
(1 Tim 3:15) that must teach all men (Matt 28:19) without error guided by the Holy Spirit
(Jn 16:13) Thru the grace of God in the sanctification of souls applied in the seven sacraments!

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42
1 Tim 3:15

Scripture Verses that contradict the “Bible is our ONLY AUTHORITY”!

Matt 5:14
Matt 13:11
Matt 18:17
Matt 28:19
Lk 1:4
Lk 10:16
Jn 8:32
Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21
Acts 1:8
Acts 2:42
Acts 8:26
Acts 8:31
Acts 18:25
Rom 10:15
1 cor 4:11
1 cor 11:23
1 thes 2:23
2 thes 2:15
Col 2:7
Eph 4:5
Heb 13:7
Heb 13:17
1 Tim 3:15
1 Jn 1:3-5
1 Jn 4:6
2 Jn 1:12
Jude 1:3

How can it be said scripture is “sole authority” or the only source of truth or the rule of faith when scripture says we must hear the church Matt 18:17 the apostles are the light of the world Matt 5:14 we must hold the doctrine of the apostles acts 2:42 the church is the pillar and ground of truth 1 Tim 3:15

You get that from scripture not a catholic bias!

Thanks
 
Few verses forcing a false salvation and new gospel with a few twisted. Verses is not Scriptural!

Ordinary man just read the Bible in his own language and he will believe the “new Protestant gospel”! Non-sense!

Until the uniform
Public schools of the 20th century “most” people could not read!

The “Bible alone” cannot be the rule of faith or the only source of truth!

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13) one faith (eph 4:5) the faith delivered to the apostles (Jude 1:3)

Otherwise we fall under the condemnation of scripture!
2 pet 3:16
 
Gifts of the spirit!

Wisdom
knowledge
Understand
Counsel
Piety
Fortitude
Fear of the Lord

The gifts of the spirit are spiritual and we receive them spiritually, when we pray they function spiritually so our intentions are known.

Also the Ministry of the Angels
 
1 Jn 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Must hear the apostles!
Must hear the church! Matt 18:17

The scripture says many of the same things of the apostolic church as it does Christ!

Light of the world: Jn 8:12 / Matt 5:14
Hear: Matt 17:5 acts 3:22 / Matt 18:17
Authority: Matt 28:17 / Jn 20:21
Reconciliation: 2 cor 5:19 / 2 cor 5:18
Forgive sins: Lk 5:20 / Jn 20:23

Truth: Jn 14:6 / 1 Tim 3:15

Jesus Christ and His church are one acts 9:4 eph 5:32 and the only means of salvation! Matt 28:19


Are we really just Relying on our own private judgement of scripture?

Instead of Christ the light of the world, and the way, the truth, and the Life!

And Christ and His church are one unity in all truth and grace!

Really we are just believing in our own private fallible judgment!

When Christ established the church to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! Matt 28:19

Christians must be taught or instructed by the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church! Lk 1:4
Matt 28:19, Lk 10:16, Jn 20:21
Acts 8:31, Colossians 2:7

Our understanding, study, interpretation, judgment, are all adding to scripture!

Thanks
 
1 Jn 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Must hear the apostles!
Must hear the church! Matt 18:17

The scripture says many of the same things of the apostolic church as it does Christ!

Light of the world: Jn 8:12 / Matt 5:14
Hear: Matt 17:5 acts 3:22 / Matt 18:17
Authority: Matt 28:17 / Jn 20:21
Reconciliation: 2 cor 5:19 / 2 cor 5:18
Forgive sins: Lk 5:20 / Jn 20:23

Truth: Jn 14:6 / 1 Tim 3:15

Jesus Christ and His church are one acts 9:4 eph 5:32 and the only means of salvation! Matt 28:19


Are we really just Relying on our own private judgement of scripture?

Instead of Christ the light of the world, and the way, the truth, and the Life!

And Christ and His church are one unity in all truth and grace!

Really we are just believing in our own private fallible judgment!

When Christ established the church to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! Matt 28:19

Christians must be taught or instructed by the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church! Lk 1:4
Matt 28:19, Lk 10:16, Jn 20:21
Acts 8:31, Colossians 2:7

Our understanding, study, interpretation, judgment, are all adding to scripture!

Thanks

They never taught praying to Mary because it is an abomination.
 
They never taught praying to Mary because it is an abomination.
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Immaculate conception and the Four spiritual laws:

Man is sinful and separated from God, so we cannot know Him personally or experience His love.
Man is Sinful.

Jesus Christ is God's only provision for man's sin. Through Him alone we can know God personally and experience God's love.
He Died in Our Place.

We must individually receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord; then we can know God personally and experience His love.
We Must Receive Christ.

Knowing this how can scripture say:

Lk 1:28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

“Full of grace”

“Lord is with Mary”
(not Mary is with the Lord)

“Blessed”

The only possibility is the “immaculate conception” by the power of God thru the future merits of the passion and death of Jesus Christ! Amen! Lk 1:37 Lk 1:49
 
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The immaculate mother of God is an abomination, I’m sure Jesus won’t like your assertions!

Liar!

I never asserted that.

I wrote that praying to her is.

I know you have to resort to such deception because you cannot defend your blasphemous heresy.

Your attempt to affirm something I never asserted is absolutely disgusting.
 
Liar!

I never asserted that.

I wrote that praying to her is.

I know you have to resort to such deception because you cannot defend your blasphemous heresy.

Your attempt to affirm something I never asserted is absolutely disgusting.
Sorry
Prayer is an abomination! Ok
 
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