A priest of Christ is a worshiper of Christ

[donadams]

Of course!!

Nope - SOME churches are as phony as a $3 bill. Only the REAL church of Jesus Christ is the Pillar, and ground of the truth.

True, however NO VISIBLE CHURCH SYSTEM in 2023 conforms completely the the church that Jesus founded. SOME get closer to it than others.

Is the church only invisible and spiritual or supernatural?

 

[donadams]

The command to obey the 7th day Sabbath does not apply for the Christian.

Fourth commandment honor Thy father and mother

Sabbath is the third commandment

Thanks

 

[Fred]

Fourth commandment honor Thy father and mother

Sabbath is the third commandment

Thanks

3rd Commandment:
Do not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain.

 

[donadams]

Nope, I just didn't happen to use it this time. Just more indication that Christians are "Priests" before God.

Yup - I already stated that He was.

I agree all those who by faith and baptism are members of Christ and priests according to the royal priesthood and offer the sacrifice of praise.

But Christ is high priest indicating a hierarchy of priests of the same order, the order of melchisedec not the royal priesthood.

 

[donadams]

3rd Commandment:
Do not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain.

Where did you get your list of the Ten Commandments?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Is the church only invisible and spiritual or supernatural?

The REAL church of Jesus Christ is OBVIOSLY not anything "Man" had invented, and incorporated. I'm a Member in God standing of the "ASSEMBLIES OF GOD" Denomination, but I ABSOLUTELY would not claim it to be the "full embodiment" of the Church Christ founded - i.e. "the Pillar and the Ground of TRUTH".

VISIBLE churches are invariably comprised of "Wheat" (born again Christians), and "Tares" (religious folks who haven't been "Born Again, and don't even know what that means, since the "Kingdom of God is invisible to 'em).

 

[donadams]

The REAL church of Jesus Christ is OBVIOSLY not anything "Man" had invented, and incorporated. I'm a Member in God standing of the "ASSEMBLIES OF GOD" Denomination, but I ABSOLUTELY would not claim it to be the "full embodiment" of the Church Christ founded - i.e. "the Pillar and the Ground of TRUTH".

VISIBLE churches are invariably comprised of "Wheat" (born again Christians), and "Tares" (religious folks who haven't been "Born Again, and don't even know what that means, since the "Kingdom of God is invisible to 'em).

How can it be invisible only in light of Matt 5:14 Matt 18:17 and acts 1:8 (no pun intended)

Invisible and visible
Spiritual and physical
And supernatural

Christ and His church He founded are one, and CANNOT be separated!
Acts 9:4 Matt 28:20 Jn 15:5 eph 5:24 eph 5:32

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Where did you get your list of the Ten Commandments?

The Catholics have their own list list (eliminates the "Image" thing, and breaks the "Covet into two to get ten.

 

[donadams]

3rd Commandment:
Do not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain.

Ten Commandments

Ex 20

Scripture has no list (1, 2, 3, etc.) of the Ten Commandments

There are 9 commandments According to subject matter or context of ex 20:

First commandment: ex 20:2-6
One God

Second commandment: ex 20:7
God’s name

Third commandment: ex 20:8-11
God’s sabbath

Fourth commandment: ex 20:12
Parents

Fifth commandment: ex 20:13
Murder

Sixth commandment: ex 20:14
Adultery

Seventh commandment: ex 20:15
Theft

Eighth commandment: ex 20:16
Lying

Ninth commandment: ex 20:17
Coveting

Separating the two about coveting makes Ten Commandments!

Ninth: Thou shalt not covet Thy neighbors goods.

Tenth: Thou shalt not covet Thy neighbor’s wife.

Thanks

 

[Fred]

The Catholics have their own list list (eliminates the "Image" thing

Wonder why they would want to get rid of that one?

 

[Arial]

High priest

By agreeing that Christ is high priest (heb 8:1) do you realize you are agreeing to a hierarchy?

You can't get any higher than God now can you? That is not the same as agreeing with a human hierarchy that makes itself equal with the divine, having the power of divine forgiveness of sins as only God can do. There is one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus.

 

[Arial]

What's THAT all supposed to mean???

It is straightforward. What is the problem? Maybe some systematic study of the Bible would help?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Wonder why they would want to get rid of that one?

Since their churches are FULL of "Sacred images" that they Worship (while claiming that they don't).

 

[donadams]

The REAL church of Jesus Christ is OBVIOSLY not anything "Man" had invented, and incorporated. I'm a Member in God standing of the "ASSEMBLIES OF GOD" Denomination, but I ABSOLUTELY would not claim it to be the "full embodiment" of the Church Christ founded - i.e. "the Pillar and the Ground of TRUTH".

VISIBLE churches are invariably comprised of "Wheat" (born again Christians), and "Tares" (religious folks who haven't been "Born Again, and don't even know what that means, since the "Kingdom of God is invisible to 'em).

Besides, I beg you to show me at what period the visible Church may have been without miracles, from the time that it began until this presen? In the time of the Apostles there were miracles beyond number; you know that well. After that time, who knows not the miracles, related by Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, worked by the prayers of the legion of Christian soldiers who were in his army, which on this account was called thundering? Who knows not the miracles of S. Gregory Thaumaturgus, S. Martin, S. Anthony, S. Nicholas, S. Hilarion, and the wonders concerning Theodosius and Constantine, for which we have authors of irreproachable authority - Eusebius, Rufinus, S. Jerome, Basil, Sulpicius, Athanasius? Who knows not again what happened at the Invention of the Holy Cross, and in the time of Julian the Apostate? In the time of SS. Chrysostom, Ambrose, Augustine, many miracles were seen, which they themselves relate why then would you have the same Church now cease from miracles? What reason would there be? In truth, what we have always seen, in all varieties of times, accompanying the Church, we cannot do otherwise than call a property of the Church.

St. Francis, St. Bernard, St. Anthony worked miracles, the great and powerful virgin-martyrs worked miracles, St. Paul of the cross worked no less than 7 miracles everyday mostly by simply making the “sign of the cross”!

The true visible Church then makes her sanctity appear by miracles. And if God made so admirable the Propitiatory, and his Sinai, and his Burning Bush, because he wished to speak with men, why shall he not have made miraculous this his Church in which he wills to dwell for ever?
Thanks

 

[donadams]

Blessing from God thru Mary!

All graces come to us thru Mary, from God by the merits (blood) of Christ!
Jn 1:16
Of His fullness we have all received, grace for grace!

And Jesus Christ the source of all grace came thru Mary!

Found our Salvation Lk 1:30
Consented to our salvation Lk 1:38
Mother of Christ Matt 1:16
Mother of the word Jn 1:1
Mother of our savior Matt 1:21
Mother of our salvation Lk 2:30
Our mother Jn 19:26-27

By Mary’s intercession Christ is presented to be worshipped by the angels, shepherds, and the kings at the stable! Cos Mary found the grace of our salvation! Lk 1:30

Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit!

Lk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

John sanctified in the womb!

Lk 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

Lk 1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Zacharias is filled with the Holy Spirit and prophecy!

Lk 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,

The wedding couple have wine and not shame!

Jn 2: 10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

The disciples are supplied with faith, hope, and charity!

11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his disciples believed on him.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Mary found this grace! Lk 1:30
Mary believed for us! Lk 1:45
Mother of our salvation! Lk 2:30

All these blessings from God because of Mary most holy!

Mother of divine grace!

Mary is the divine treasury the Throne of grace! Heb 4:16

Biblical principle!

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Blessing from God thru Mary!

All graces come to us thru Mary, from God by the merits (blood) of Christ!
Jn 1:16

Typical Roman Catholic rhetoric. Focus on "Mary", and not on JESUS, whom God sent into the world.

 

[ReverendRV]

It demonstrates the fact that the Lord Jesus is God in that He is the proper recipient of worship in equality with the Father.
Some Unitarians (Jehovah's Witnesses, The Way International) insist that Jesus is not to be worshiped. Only God the Father is to be worshiped. Thus, if it can be shown the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of worship in equality with the Father some of them may renounce their heresy.

Since Christians are priests of Christ would prove that He is:
a. The proper recipient of prayer as being Lord/YHWH (Psalm 99:6) - and only God is to be prayed to (1 Kings 8:38-39; Luke 4:8; cf. Luke 2:37).
b. The proper recipient of leitourgeō in Acts 13:2 - notice the connection between "priests" and the fact that this is what they offer unto God in 2 Chronicles 13:10 (LXX).

I understood what you meant right off. Develop an Apology based on this...

 

[Two-Edged Sword]

All Christians are His priests (Revelation 20:6).

I like Rev. 1:6 “And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.”

We are kings (various other verses say we'll get a crown) and "priest unto "God and his Father". Jesus is referred to as God in this verse and says we're priest to Him AND the Father.

 

[Fred]

I understood what you meant right off. Develop an Apology based on this...

I'm not sure what you mean.

Please explain.

 

[ReverendRV]

I'm not sure what you mean.

Please explain.

Your OP is a good defense for the Trinity; keep it up...