A priest of Christ is a worshiper of Christ

[donadams]

I've been asserting what I believe in accord withe the Bible throughout this thread which you as Roman Catholic hijacked.

It started with the fact that Christians are priests of Christ.
I went on to explain later on how this means the Lord Jesus is God (cf. post 5), but RC's with their anti-biblical teachings detract from the Deity of the Lord Jesus (as you are doing here).

I’ve never detracted from the divine nature of christ

Al I say it this


Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles! The apostles have the same mission, ministry, power, and authority as Christ! Jn 20:21 as the father sent me, so I send you!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28 and 1 cor 6:2
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
Jn 17:22 / rom 2:10 / 1 pet 1:7 Christ shares His glory with His saints!
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
Must hear church Matt 18:18
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
His authority in governing the church and administering the kingdom!
Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 Jn 21:17
Lk 22:29
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
Acts 2:42 doctrine of the apostles!
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Christ shares His glory! 2 thes 1:10 rev 12:1

The pillar and foundation of TRUTH!
1 Tim 3:15

The TWO EDGE SWORD!
To proclaim the truth! Matt 28:19
To condemn error! 1 cor 16:22

Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church for the salvation of all men! (Jn 1:16-17) Christ is the truth! (Jn 14:6) Christ and his church are one!
(Acts 9;4 Jn 15:1 eph 5:32)
The church is the pillar of truth
(1 Tim 3:15) that must teach all men (Matt 28:19) without error guided by the Holy Spirit
(Jn 16:13) Thru the grace of God in the sanctification of souls applied in the seven sacraments!

Thanks

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[Fred]

I’ve never detracted from the divine nature of christ

You do all the time by the believing the false teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.

A powerful proof the Lord Jesus is God is the fact that He is the proper recipient of prayer.

Since RCC's render prayer even to created beings undercuts what is due unto God alone.

 

[donadams]

You do all the time by the believing the false teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.

A powerful proof the Lord Jesus is God is the fact that He is the proper recipient of prayer.

Since RCC's render prayer even to created beings undercuts what is due unto God alone.

Really? So what f I ask you to pray for me; I am rendering unto you that which belongs to God alone?

Anyone in the communion of saints can pray and intercede for each other! 1 Tim 2:1
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

Thanks

 

[Fred]

Really? So what f I ask you to pray for me;

Not the same because prayer can take place silently within the heart.

You had to type out your response in order for me to know what you were thinking. Why not just think it and expect me to know?

The reason is because it takes fully knowing then hearts of all people to be the proper recipient of prayer.

1 Kings 8:38-39
whatever prayer...is made...then hear in heaven...for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men.

 

[donadams]

Not the same because prayer can take place silently within the heart.

You had to type out your response in order for me to know what you were thinking. Why not just think it and expect me to know?

The reason is because it takes fully knowing then hearts of all people to be the proper recipient of prayer.

1 Kings 8:38-39
whatever prayer...is made...then hear in heaven...for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men.

You don’t need to know my petition if I ask you to pray for me, or for a certain need, the angel’s make it known to God by the power of the spirit

 

[Fred]

You don’t need to know my petition if I ask you to pray for me, or for a certain need,

Yeah right.

That is my point. You are asking me (VERBALLY or WRITTEN) to pray for you.

the angel’s make it known to God by the power of the spirit

So God didn't know beforehand?

Strange "god" you got there.

 

[donadams]

Yeah right.

That is my point. You are asking me (VERBALLY or WRITTEN) to pray for you.



So God didn't know beforehand?

Strange "god" you got there.

rev 8: 3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.

 

[Fred]

rev 8: 3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.

You dodged my question at the end of post 46.

Try again.

 

[donadams]

Yeah right.

That is my point. You are asking me (VERBALLY or WRITTEN) to pray for you.



So God didn't know beforehand?

Strange "god" you got there.

Of course God knows all things

 

[Fred]

Of course God knows all things

So when you wrote in post 45 that, "the angel’s make it known to God by the power of the spirit", God already knew before the angels made it known to Him?

 

[donadams]

So when you wrote in post 45 that, "the angel’s make it known to God by the power of the spirit", God already knew before the angels made it known to Him?

Yes but they are still ministering spirits

 

[Fred]

Yes

Strange way for you to put it then in that they "make known" something to God when He already knows it.

 

[donadams]

Strange way for you to put it then in that they "make known" something to God when He already knows it.

Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

 

[Fred]

Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Irrelevant as to whether or not they make known something to God in that already knows.
Don't confuse the issue.

 

[donadams]

Irrelevant as to whether or not they make known something to God in that already knows.
Don't confuse the issue.

Ok offer up to God then

 

[Fred]

Ok offer up to God then

The only place where prayer should be directed.

 

[donadams]

The only place where prayer should be directed.

But by the intercession of the angels and saints

 

[Fred]

But by the intercession of the angels and saints

No prayers are properly directed to them.

 

[donadams]

No prayers are properly directed to them.

I did not say they were
Prayer is directed to God thru Mary and the angels and saints

The queen interceded for the people

The queen presents the petitions of the people to the king

See Esther
See Solomon

 

[donadams]

1 kings 2:19 Bathsheba therefore went unto king Solomon, to speak unto him for Adonijah. And the king rose up to meet her, and bowed himself unto her, and sat down on his throne, and caused a seat to be set for the king's mother; and she sat on his right hand.