Why Should Christians Be Concerned about the Correct Location of the Third TEMPLE.

[VCO]

Abraham, David, Solomon, and many, many, millions of Hebrews weren't beheaded. Are they excluded? No, they are not. I think you need to take a looong look at God's Redemptive History and not just 7 years at the end.

And correct me if I am wrong but weren't those words about reigning as priests spoken to Israel?

Yes, I am correct. God never promised Gentiles they would be "reigning as priests" or "housed in the New City Jerusalem." Those were promises and prophecies given to Israel as well.

For 1900 years after the destruction of the Temple and God began saving Gentiles that they took it upon themselves to claim an inheritance, covenants, prophecies, land - in heaven or earth - and everything God gave to His Chosen people Israel and stole it for themselves. You need to look at the Scripture and see how deeply you are infected with Gentile propaganda.

Church Age . . . . . . . . . . . . . Rapture . . . . . . . END OF MAN RULES THIS EARTH , , , Followed by 1000 Year of Christ Rule . . . Eternity
There is the timeline from this time on. I know their are Other theories on the Rapture, but I believe they are wrong.

At the end of the Rapture, their will be NO CHURCH on earth. All TRUE Christians will be Raptured. Yes, I believe so-called Christians, will be left behind, and MANY will be resigned to become Jews. NO I do not think the Church will continue to be mortal human beings. Mat. 7:13-27, clairifies it all.

You see Christ did not use CHURCH, HE used ASSEMBLY. The same thing that HE used to call the OLD TESTIMANT, TRUE BELIEVERS.

John 10:16 NASB
I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd. Newer Translation indicated the will become one flock at the Rapture.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Church Age . . . . . . . . . . . . . Rapture . . . . . . . END OF MAN RULES THIS EARTH , , , Followed by 1000 Year of Christ Rule . . . Eternity
There is the timeline from this time on. I know their are Other theories on the Rapture, but I believe they are wrong.

At the end of the Rapture, their will be NO CHURCH on earth. All TRUE Christians will be Raptured. Yes, I believe so-called Christians, will be left behind, and MANY will be resigned to become Jews. NO I do not think the Church will continue to be mortal human beings. Mat. 7:13-27, clairifies it all.

Let's be honest here. Biblically honest.
Israel is mentioned 79% of the bible and her history and everything dealing with their covenants with God and the aftermath. The Abrahamic Covenant is said in the passage to be an "everlasting" covenant, meaning forever. This leaves open in Scripture that where covenants are mentioned or alluded to it concerns the Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New Covenants.
God (Lord, Christ/Messiah, et.al.) is mentioned over 6000 times in Scripture followed by salvation/redemption/deliverance and this all has to do with Israel who is covered 79% of the bible. Then Israel is the next most mentioned subject. The so-called Church in the New Testament is mentioned just over 120 times, and it doesn't refer to Gentile Church it refers to the Jewish Church. Writings by Gentiles outside the bible especially after the destruction of their Temple all have changed the focus of Israel and now Gentiles have usurped Israel's covenants and inheritance. Now look at the subject matter of this thread. Israel's prophesied Third Temple and once built end-time prophecy will race towards Israel's Messiah's Second Coming to put down all rule, destroy Gentiles that have surrounded her to destroy her, and where does Messiah rule from? Rome? Washington DC? Cairo? The answer is Jerusalem.

And let me continue to be honest: The Hebrew Scriptures in short order are the Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets. The New Testament writings are only discussion by Jewish Christians as they try to understand and make sense of the New Covenant, they find themselves in. Now there is a Messiah. Now there is a Holy Spirit of Promise. All these events contained in these writings are ONLY Jews trying to make sense of their New Covenant (Jer. 31:31-34) and the effect Israel's Messiah and this Holy Spirit has upon existing Abrahamic and Mosaic Covenants (Gal 3 is one example.) There is NO COVENANT in the Hebrew Scripture of God making covenant with Gentiles and you think the Gentile Church is going to escape the judgment coming upon the world? Israel DOES have Covenant with God and they're the focal point of everything to happen in the future and you think God is going to exclude Gentile believers with whom He has no covenant. Israel is betrothed to God and His Bride. Israel is the Great Congregation (i.e. Church) of God and they are the focus of the New Testament writings. Unless the context is explicit identifying uncircumcised, non-covenant Gentiles then it has to refer to proselytes and God-Fearers.

When Christ began building HIS CHURCH, He built it beginning with three thousand Jews. He added to His Church DAILY, and this means more Jews becoming born-again. And why not? It's their covenant. It's their Holy Spirit of Promise. Jesus Christ/Messiah is their Messiah. And for four decades until the destruction of their Temple everything that happened with regard to the New Covenant happened to Israel and the Jewish people. And with the destruction of Israel's Temple began the Times of the Gentiles in which Israel was set aside so that God bring in Gentiles. This doesn't mean bring them into the Abrahamic of Mosaic covenants but only joined them to Christ. And there's the difference. The Times of the Gentiles will end. And just as God did not spare His Chosen people but destroyed their nation and Temple and scattered them throughout the world. The diaspora was nothing compared to the scattering done at the hands of Romans. The Times of the Gentiles will end with the destruction of the Gentile nations and last I checked Gentile Christians live in these Gentile nations. He may do it through nuclear war or some cataclysmic event from space, or through pestilence, etc, but it will end. And you think God is going to spare Gentiles with whom He has no covenant? You have been indoctrinated by a Gentile theology that has stolen Israel's covenants and her inheritance and made those things that belong to her through covenant their own. Talk about the greatest theft in the history of the world!

You see Christ did not use CHURCH, HE used ASSEMBLY. The same thing that HE used to call the OLD TESTIMANT, TRUE BELIEVERS.

And whether the word is "Great Congregation" or "Church" or "assembly" the fact remains this group was populated by Jews.

John 10:16 NASB
I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd. Newer Translation indicated the will become one flock at the Rapture.

This "other sheep" He was referring to are called Samaritans, but He wouldn't say that to them. If they have Hebrew blood in their veins, then they are STILL in Covenant for they are STILL Abraham's seed. You need to stop looking at the Hebrew Scriptures of BOTH Testaments with a Gentile mindset and look at them with a Jewish mindset if that is even possible.
He is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, not the God of Madison, Jefferson, and Adams.

 

[Mr GLee]

Let's be honest here. Biblically honest.
Israel is mentioned 79% of the bible and her history and everything dealing with their covenants with God and the aftermath. The Abrahamic Covenant is said in the passage to be an "everlasting" covenant, meaning forever. This leaves open in Scripture that where covenants are mentioned or alluded to it concerns the Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New Covenants.
God (Lord, Christ/Messiah, et.al.) is mentioned over 6000 times in Scripture followed by salvation/redemption/deliverance and this all has to do with Israel who is covered 79% of the bible. Then Israel is the next most mentioned subject. The so-called Church in the New Testament is mentioned just over 120 times, and it doesn't refer to Gentile Church it refers to the Jewish Church. Writings by Gentiles outside the bible especially after the destruction of their Temple all have changed the focus of Israel and now Gentiles have usurped Israel's covenants and inheritance. Now look at the subject matter of this thread. Israel's prophesied Third Temple and once built end-time prophecy will race towards Israel's Messiah's Second Coming to put down all rule, destroy Gentiles that have surrounded her to destroy her, and where does Messiah rule from? Rome? Washington DC? Cairo? The answer is Jerusalem.

I would ask?

What came first the Gentile (Abel, Seth ,Rehab, Ruth etc) the genealogy of the second born to represent "born again" or the other genealogy after Abraham signified as the father of all the nations of the world .Or is simply dying flesh under the appointed to die once. . . is dying flesh same field of clay .


Just as not all Christians that call themselves Christian are. not In the same way . All of Israel are not of born again Israel some remained as outward Jew according to their dying flesh signified by Jacob the deceiver . The Father renamed his bride.in Isaiah 62

Isaiah 62 King James Version For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

He promise to name his bride a new name one that would represent all the nations as kingdoms of the world .A more befitting name to name his bride of all the nations of the world

In Act according to the prophecy in isaiah 62 the Holy Father re-named her "Christian" . a denomyn. people known by place of residence

Christian with no other meaning added . "Residents of the eternal city of Christ" prepared for his bride the church named after her founder and husband Christ

Revelation 21King James Version21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

 

[EarlyActs]

Church Age . . . . . . . . . . . . . Rapture . . . . . . . END OF MAN RULES THIS EARTH , , , Followed by 1000 Year of Christ Rule . . . Eternity
There is the timeline from this time on. I know their are Other theories on the Rapture, but I believe they are wrong.

At the end of the Rapture, their will be NO CHURCH on earth. All TRUE Christians will be Raptured. Yes, I believe so-called Christians, will be left behind, and MANY will be resigned to become Jews. NO I do not think the Church will continue to be mortal human beings. Mat. 7:13-27, clairifies it all.

You see Christ did not use CHURCH, HE used ASSEMBLY. The same thing that HE used to call the OLD TESTIMANT, TRUE BELIEVERS.

John 10:16 NASB
I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will hear My voice; and they will become one flock with one shepherd. Newer Translation indicated the will become one flock at the Rapture.

There are many guesses as to a sequence at the end of time, but most of them are hooey. The kingdom came in Jesus and he was enthroned in the resurrection. It is an imperative kingdom, meaning, it operates by commanding all people, from rulers to mechanics, to honor the Son, lest he be angry. You are trying to find a time for an agency or government on earth, and it is not about that.

This is why there is no NT didactic letter about the last day of judgement that is drawn out into many events that are a Rubic's puzzle. There is simply the destruction of the Son's enemies. Don't worry about figuring it out. Notice in Acts 1:9 "it is not for you to know." That's softer than the Aramaic "knock it off."

Don't create any doctrine by little phrases from or guesses about the Rev, unless they are absolutely, and easily, clear from NT letters.

 

[jeremiah1five]

I would ask?

What came first the Gentile (Abel, Seth ,Rehab, Ruth etc) the genealogy of the second born to represent "born again" or the other genealogy after Abraham signified as the father of all the nations of the world .Or is simply dying flesh under the appointed to die once. . . is dying flesh same field of clay .


Just as not all Christians that call themselves Christian are. not In the same way . All of Israel are not of born again Israel some remained as outward Jew according to their dying flesh signified by Jacob the deceiver . The Father renamed his bride.in Isaiah 62

Isaiah 62 King James Version For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

He promise to name his bride a new name one that would represent all the nations as kingdoms of the world .A more befitting name to name his bride of all the nations of the world

In Act according to the prophecy in isaiah 62 the Holy Father re-named her "Christian" . a denomyn. people known by place of residence

Christian with no other meaning added . "Residents of the eternal city of Christ" prepared for his bride the church named after her founder and husband Christ

Revelation 21King James Version21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Salvation is of the Jews.
The Church is Israel.
The Bride is Israel.
The apple of God's eye is Israel.
Gentiles have for 1900 years since the destruction of the Jewish Temple have stolen Israel's covenants and their inheritance and made them their own. Thou shalt not steal, right?
God made NO COVENANT with Gentiles.
None.

 

[Mr GLee]

Salvation is of the Jews.
The Church is Israel.
The Bride is Israel.
The apple of God's eye is Israel.
Gentiles have for 1900 years since the destruction of the Jewish Temple have stolen Israel's covenants and their inheritance and made them their own. Thou shalt not steal, right?
God made NO COVENANT with Gentiles.
None.

You're serious?

You did not answer my questions. Where they to hard?

Did you study? False pride comes before the fall

So then you refuse to acknowledge the name change in Isaiah 62? And the fulfillment in Acts when the father name his bride Christian 62

Do we simply ignore those references?

Are you Jewish are you hoping your dying flesh could profit even though Jesus the Son of man said his own flesh it profits for zero. Many Jews that were trusting in thier dying flesh when they heard in John 6 the Son of man Jesus flesh could never profit. They no longer followed after the dying flesh of Jesus the Son of man our brother in the lord

John 6:63-68 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. . . . Not dying flesh of eternal life

Is God a Jewish man ?

Was Abel a Jew. His blood like the blood of all of God apostles as prophets cries out .

Or simply whosoever has not the Spirit of Christ does not belong to Christ

Romans 8: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (dying flesh and blood) more than the Creator,(non Jewish who is blessed for ever. Amen.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You're serious?
Did you study? False pride comes before the fall
So then you refuse to acknowledge the name change in Isaiah 62? And the fulfillment in Acts when the father name his bride Christian 62
Do we simply ignore those references?

Are you referencing this passage in Isaiah 62?

2 And thou shalt be called by a new name,
Which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
Isaiah 62:2.

And God gives the name, and it is NOT "Christian" but "Hephzi-bah" which means "Jerusalem."

4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken;
Neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate:
But thou shalt be called Hephzi-bah,
And thy land Beulah:
For the LORD delighteth in thee,
And thy land shall be married.
5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin,
So shall thy sons marry thee:
And as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride,
So shall thy God rejoice over thee.
Isaiah 62:4–5.

Are you Jewish are you hoping your dying flesh could profit even though Jesus the Son of man said his own flesh it profits for zero. Many Jews that were trusting in thier dying flesh when they heard in John 6 the Son of man Jesus flesh could never profit. They no longer followed after the dying flesh of Jesus the Son of man our brother in the lord

Of course, Jesus' flesh brought profit. Didn't Jesus say:

53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and mdrink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
Jn 6:53–56.

Nourishment.

John 6:63-68 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. . . . Not dying flesh of eternal life

ibid.

Is God a Jewish man ?

Yes, He is. Born out of the tribe of Judah. Judah is one of the twelve Hebrew/Jewish sons of Jacob/Israel. Jesus is God. Therefore, God is a Jewish Man.

Was Abel a Jew. His blood like the blood of all of God apostles as prophets cries out .

No, Abel was an Adamite (Gen. 5:2.)
There were no Gentiles, there was no 'human' race.
Everyone born into the world until God made covenant with Abraham was an Adamite.
When God made covenant with Abraham with the seal of said covenant being circumcision of the flesh, then Gentiles (non-Hebrew) came into existence by virtue of covenant.

Or simply whosoever has not the Spirit of Christ does not belong to Christ

That's what it says. But then again, the Holy Spirit did not come into the world to perform His covenant Ministry until Pentecost. That was the beginning of spiritual Israel when 3000 Jews were born-again of/by the Spirit of God.

Romans 8: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (dying flesh and blood) more than the Creator,(non Jewish who is blessed for ever. Amen.

 

[Mr GLee]

And God gives the name, and it is NOT "Christian" but "Hephzi-bah" which means "Jerusalem."

I am speaking of the new name the father named his bride in Acts "Christian" residents of the city of Christ prepared as the one bride . The married land no the earthly corrupted Jerusalem, the heavenly Zion

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Isaiah 62King James Version62 For Zion's (heavenly )sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's (earthly) sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God. Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the Lord delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. For as a young man marrieth a (chaste) virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom (Christ) rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ

 

[Mr GLee]

No, Abel was an Adamite (Gen. 5:2.)

Adamite = gentile, the genealogy of the second born again . Seth as the second born replaced Abel to represent all born again from above .

The Jew beginning with Abraham. . the other genealogy .

Today no man could trace thier genealogy to the first century its need was finished when Jesus the Son of man was born .

Luke 3 38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Adamite = gentile, the genealogy of the second born again . Seth as the second born replaced Abel to represent all born again from above .

The Jew beginning with Abraham. . the other genealogy .

Today no man could trace thier genealogy to the first century its need was finished when Jesus the Son of man was born .

Luke 3 38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Again, men and women until the Abrahamic Covenant were called Adam.

2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. Gen. 5:1–2.

Thus, they and their children were Adamites. Like Hittites, Jebusites, etc.
They were not even called "human" or human race. They were not called Gentile for a Gentile is basically a non-Hebrew and there were no Gentiles because there were no Hebrews in covenant with God, and what set apart the Hebrews from the Adamites was circumcision.

 

[Mr GLee]

Again, men and women until the Abrahamic Covenant were called Adam.

2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. Gen. 5:1–2.

Thus, they and their children were Adamites. Like Hittites, Jebusites, etc.
They were not even called "human" or human race. They were not called Gentile for a Gentile is basically a non-Hebrew and there were no Gentiles because there were no Hebrews in covenant with God, and what set apart the Hebrews from the Adamites was circumcision.

Hi thanks for the reply. .

Not sure where or why you got that kind of idea?

Hebrew. . . Adam= simply "earthling" a family or nation
Greek. . . gentile = ‘of a family or nation,
Hebrew. . . Abram= father of one nation or family .

Hebrew . . . .Abraham = the name to represent born again by the seed (spiritual) Christ to signify our eternal God. Abraham . .the father of many nations all earthlings .
Not Abram the non converted name according to the flesh many seeds as nations of dying mankind .Again one seed Christ the seed.

Jewish, Onan spilled the first born seed seeing no value in the unseen eternal things of God(gospel) . Like Cain the first born who murder the first apostles martyr sent with the gospel or Esau who also held no values in the unseen things of faith (the seed Christ).Esau sold his first born birth rite for a cup of hariy goat soup.

Our Holy Father used Jacob One who grasp the heel of another (firstborn Esau) the deceiver . . wrestles with him and gave power to become sons of God called bride. And last but no least he renamed her Christian

Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, (fleshly) as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Genesis 25:26 And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

Out of one Eathling he made all the earthlings (Adamic race) Plenty of dust or clay available.

Whenever a family (nation) two or three gather under the power of his living word he is there with them guiding his bride the church

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Eternal God is not a outward Jew. . . dying mankind

Acts 17 :23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, To The Unknown God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood (Adam) all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Today the new name the Holy Father named his bride called Christian = residents of the heavenly city prepared for the bride the Church named after her founder and husband Christ .

Out of one nation "Adamic" he made all the families as nations of the world .

 

[jeremiah1five]

Hi thanks for the reply. .

Not sure where or why you got that kind of idea?

Hebrew. . . Adam= simply "earthling" a family or nation
Greek. . . gentile = ‘of a family or nation,
Hebrew. . . Abram= father of one nation or family .

Hebrew . . . .Abraham = the name to represent born again by the seed (spiritual) Christ to signify our eternal God. Abraham . .the father of many nations all earthlings .
Not Abram the non converted name according to the flesh many seeds as nations of dying mankind .Again one seed Christ the seed.

Jewish, Onan spilled the first born seed seeing no value in the unseen eternal things of God(gospel) . Like Cain the first born who murder the first apostles martyr sent with the gospel or Esau who also held no values in the unseen things of faith (the seed Christ).Esau sold his first born birth rite for a cup of hariy goat soup.

Our Holy Father used Jacob One who grasp the heel of another (firstborn Esau) the deceiver . . wrestles with him and gave power to become sons of God called bride. And last but no least he renamed her Christian

Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, (fleshly) as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Genesis 25:26 And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

Out of one Eathling he made all the earthlings (Adamic race) Plenty of dust or clay available.

Whenever a family (nation) two or three gather under the power of his living word he is there with them guiding his bride the church

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Eternal God is not a outward Jew. . . dying mankind

Acts 17 :23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, To The Unknown God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood (Adam) all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Today the new name the Holy Father named his bride called Christian = residents of the heavenly city prepared for the bride the Church named after her founder and husband Christ .

Out of one nation "Adamic" he made all the families as nations of the world .

I got it from the Bible.

 

[Mr GLee]

I got it from the Bible.

Thanks, where or what Bible ?

 

[jeremiah1five]

Thanks, where or what Bible ?

The Authorized King James Version.
And if necessary, there is also the Hebrew Bible.
We are dealing with a Salvation that is of the Lord and of the Jews.
And so, God's Redemptive history towards His Covenant people the Hebrews must be considered as God and salvation and Israel are the main players in the saving of anybody.

 

[Mr GLee]

The Authorized King James Version.
And if necessary, there is also the Hebrew Bible.
We are dealing with a Salvation that is of the Lord and of the Jews.
And so, God's Redemptive history towards His Covenant people the Hebrews must be considered as God and salvation and Israel are the main players in the saving of anybody.

Which kind of Jew (two kinds) Satan would make it all one in the same. (1)outward corrupted to dying flesh of mankind or (2)inward born again of the Holy Spirit of Christ .

Where what verse or verses.? Dying flesh. . main players? playing dead? What about the living Holy Spirit of Christ? Which one is the good teaching master. . .(1) of the flesh or (2)our one Holy Father in heaven?

 

[jeremiah1five]

Which kind of Jew (two kinds) Satan would make it all one in the same. (1)outward corrupted to dying flesh of mankind or (2)inward born again of the Holy Spirit of Christ .

Where what verse or verses.? Dying flesh. . main players? playing dead? What about the living Holy Spirit of Christ? Which one is the good teaching master. . .(1) of the flesh or (2)our one Holy Father in heaven?

There is only ONE kind of Jew. He or she is a descendant of Abraham, their father.

 

[EarlyActs]

Hi thanks for the reply. .

Not sure where or why you got that kind of idea?

Hebrew. . . Adam= simply "earthling" a family or nation
Greek. . . gentile = ‘of a family or nation,
Hebrew. . . Abram= father of one nation or family .

Hebrew . . . .Abraham = the name to represent born again by the seed (spiritual) Christ to signify our eternal God. Abraham . .the father of many nations all earthlings .
Not Abram the non converted name according to the flesh many seeds as nations of dying mankind .Again one seed Christ the seed.

Jewish, Onan spilled the first born seed seeing no value in the unseen eternal things of God(gospel) . Like Cain the first born who murder the first apostles martyr sent with the gospel or Esau who also held no values in the unseen things of faith (the seed Christ).Esau sold his first born birth rite for a cup of hariy goat soup.

Our Holy Father used Jacob One who grasp the heel of another (firstborn Esau) the deceiver . . wrestles with him and gave power to become sons of God called bride. And last but no least he renamed her Christian

Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, (fleshly) as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Genesis 25:26 And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

Out of one Eathling he made all the earthlings (Adamic race) Plenty of dust or clay available.

Whenever a family (nation) two or three gather under the power of his living word he is there with them guiding his bride the church

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Eternal God is not a outward Jew. . . dying mankind

Acts 17 :23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, To The Unknown God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood (Adam) all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Today the new name the Holy Father named his bride called Christian = residents of the heavenly city prepared for the bride the Church named after her founder and husband Christ .

Out of one nation "Adamic" he made all the families as nations of the world .

Bear in mind that this line (out of one man he made all the families) may actually be a reference to Noah. There is genetic science that supports this: a narrowing of the pool about 5000 years ago; a grouping of some 11 kinds in 3 groups since that point, in which geographic does not have as much a role as the previous generation today thought.

 

[Mr GLee]

Bear in mind that this line (out of one man he made all the families) may actually be a reference to Noah. There is genetic science that supports this: a narrowing of the pool about 5000 years ago; a grouping of some 11 kinds in 3 groups since that point, in which geographic does not have as much a role as the previous generation today thought.

I think it has to do with inspiration. Not earthly of the devil

James 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.

Adam, earthling or gentile.

Noah meaning "gospel rest" Noah is used in parables to represent our second birth inspired from above.

Previous before flood water used to represent inspiration (the water of the word) rising from earth. Born again believers as sons of God where unevenly yoked with natural unconverted mankind .

God changing the inspiration from the temporal things seen to the unseen coming down like rain or dew (Deuteronomy 32 :1-2 )

The Young's literal turns inspiration right side up , the Kings James the Catholic or law of the fathers . . earthly inspired . most other translations in respect to the way before the flood . . ground up . Rainbow symbol of peace or rest from above

Matthew 18:18-19 `Young's literal Verily I say to you, Whatever things ye may bind upon the earth shall be having been bound in the heavens, and whatever things ye may loose on the earth shall be having been loosed in the heavens. `Again, I say to you, that, if two of you may agree on the earth concerning anything, whatever they may ask -- it shall be done to them from my Father who is in the heavens.. . . Not the Pope here on earth .

Matthew 18:18-19 King James Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: (false) and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.(false) Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

 

[EarlyActs]

I think it has to do with inspiration. Not earthly of the devil

James 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.

Adam, earthling or gentile.

Noah meaning "gospel rest" Noah is used in parables to represent our second birth inspired from above.

Previous before flood water used to represent inspiration (the water of the word) rising from earth. Born again believers as sons of God where unevenly yoked with natural unconverted mankind .

God changing the inspiration from the temporal things seen to the unseen coming down like rain or dew (Deuteronomy 32 :1-2 )

The Young's literal turns inspiration right side up , the Kings James the Catholic or law of the fathers . . earthly inspired . most other translations in respect to the way before the flood . . ground up . Rainbow symbol of peace or rest from above

Matthew 18:18-19 `Young's literal Verily I say to you, Whatever things ye may bind upon the earth shall be having been bound in the heavens, and whatever things ye may loose on the earth shall be having been loosed in the heavens. `Again, I say to you, that, if two of you may agree on the earth concerning anything, whatever they may ask -- it shall be done to them from my Father who is in the heavens.. . . Not the Pope here on earth .

Matthew 18:18-19 King James Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: (false) and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.(false) Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

Short concise answers will be read. This is a ramble as wide as the Pacific.

 

[VCO]

Salvation is of the Jews.
The Church is Israel.
The Bride is Israel.
The apple of God's eye is Israel.
Gentiles have for 1900 years since the destruction of the Jewish Temple have stolen Israel's covenants and their inheritance and made them their own. Thou shalt not steal, right?
God made NO COVENANT with Gentiles.
None.

No, the Church is not ISRAEL.

I should have recognized that from the Beginning.

You have a major false doctrine there.


John 10:16 (HCSB)
16 But I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock, one shepherd.

Get over your KJV only, or you will never understand the Truth.

The KJV is FULL of Errors, it is the Best KJV, but still if is Just a PARPHASED version, not a word for word translation from the Original. They translated it from 5 Older English Versions. It was not intended to be perfect, it was only intended to correct KNOW ERRORS.

Now take a look at the Verse I quoted from the HCSB. Notice it ends with Then there will be one flock, one shepherd.
When will that happen. At the Rapture.