Why Should Christians Be Concerned about the Correct Location of the Third TEMPLE.

[VCO]

I have been on another site, been discussing the THIRD TEMPLE, and the actual Location of the Roman FORTRESS ANTONIA, for the Past 5 years. Don't worry, I will not post it all HERE. I will short cut to the Conclusion part of the discussion. So why should Christians be Concerned about the Correct Location of the THIRD TEMPLE?

If the Jews get it in the WRONG PLACE, GOD may not Honor the Prophecy, until they decide to MOVE IT TO THE CORRECT LOCATION. I KEEP READY Expecting the BRIDEGROOM at any time. If I KEEP READY, I will be Ready at the Pre-Tribulation. If I KEEP READY, I will be Ready at anytime there after. And I absolutely believe the Third Temple, after the Church-age is finished. It actually is the 70th Week of Daniel. So YES, I want to GO HOME.

I have found PROOF that the entire Fortress on the so-called TEMPLE Mount, is actually Fortress Antonia, Home of the Roman X Legion, which Caesar says every LEGION has to have 300 Horse, Cavalry. You can look that up. So How did I prove it. I thought No Body With a camera, had been in the Southeast corner of the so-called Temple Mount. However, a WWII British Commando, in 1944, after they chased the Nazi's clean out of ISRAEL was stationed in Jerusalem. He and others went in down in that STABLE with a Muslim escort and took Pictures. His daughter found the Pictures in a box in one of his drawers. She wanted the world to see them, and gave them to a Veterans organization, so those Pictures are what they call Public Domain. One Picture my eye; their was an X up top, carved in with a knife Point, and below that there was K Stamped into BLOCK with a giant Stencil with a sledge hammer. I was Pretty sure the X stood for the Roman X EQUESTRIS (their word for Cavalry). But What does the K stand for ? ? ? I FOUND IT, and I almost FELL OVER shout for Joy. There was a multi-nation Equestris Organization that wanted to mark Horse Stalls so that everyone KNEW WHAT THE K STOOD FOR, no mater what language they SPOKE. It stands this Horse Stall is reserved for the EMPEROR/KING. There was the Proof that I had been searching for 5 years. King Herod built this Fortress for the ROMAN X LEGION. On Top of it ALL I found two hidden gates about a year ago, on the South side, have ways between the TRIPLE GATES and the Southeast CORNER. They has cut down a TREE that hid them.

Is THIS:

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Below X on Ground floor,

Now for the other part, if the TEMPLE WAS not up top, where was it.

Flavius Josephus says the north wall of the TEMPLE was 600 feet south of the wall were the Stable Gates are.
Now Josephus had a VERY important Position at the age of 14, he was one of the Counselor to the High Priest.
It does not say, but at some point he became a Christian, from ultra orthodox Jew, to probably being fired from
his job as a Counselor to the High Priest. He then took a Job with the ROMANS as their HISTORIAN. And every
one of the Jews turned against him, and his writings.

QUOTE:

having its bending above the fountain Siloam (Pool of Siloam); where it also bends again towards the east at Solomon’s pool, and reaches as far as a certain place which they called Ophlas [what they now call the OPHEL], where it was joined to the eastern cloister of the temple. The second wall took its beginning from that gate which they called Gennath, which belonged to the first wall. It only encompassed the northern quarter of the city, and reached as far as the tower Antonia. -
Josephus - The Jewish War - Book V - chapter 4
END QUOTE:

Tower of Antonia, was a 5th Tower, under the bend of the ROAD, as it turns west, along the southeastern part of the so-called Temple Mount, perfect for spying on the ZELLOTS in the Temple.

That enough for Now.

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

You might find this interesting.

The Temple Mount in the Herodian Period (37 BC–70 A.D.) - Biblical Archaeology Society

Archaeological architect Leen Ritmeyer presents drawings of the Temple Mount in the Herodian period.

www.biblicalarchaeology.org

 

[VCO]

I have a couple of Pictures that are old enough to be considered Public Domain.

 

[Marilyn C]

The Temple that will have the A/D is already built.

 

[Marilyn C]

 

[Marilyn C]

The Third Temple - Where?

To be categorically exact regarding Israel's function as the "Catalyst for the Countdown", one further event was specified as a prerequisite. This was the temple with its inner sanctum, The Holy Place"; according to the signs predicted by Jesus (Matt 24:15) and Paul (2 Thess 2:4).

Many commentators have relegated this to the obscure future, because they consider the temple has to be constructed on Mount Moriah, the site of Herod's temple. The insurmountable object of course, is that the Dome of the Rock, the second most holy place of Islam, already occupies that position.


This is an entirely false premise, however, that has created confusion. The Temple built by Solomon, the Temple frequented by Jesus and His Disciples were both built on Mount Moriah. Ezekiel predicts that another will be constructed on the same place after Jesus returns in Glory.

Every reference to all three Temples on this site was a translation of the Greek Word "Hieron". Any "Temple" erected elsewhere was invariably from the Greek word "Naos". This word is frequently rendered "Meeting Place", "Dwelling" or "Synagogue". It is the later word "Naos" that is used by Paul (2 Thess 2:4) in reference to the Temple used by contemporary Israel. It has absolutely no connection exegetically with the site on Mt. Moriah. In fact there is no prerequisite for it to be built there. To the contrary, in line with Greek usage, it must be constructed elsewhere.

The Embassy of Israel advises that on August 1982, in the Presence of the Prime Minister, Menachem Begin, Members of Cabinet and many other notables, the Jerusalem great Synagogue was dedicated. It is situated in King George Street, and is constructed from the same local stone as was Solomon's Temple. The central feature is a high tower containing five magnificent stained-glass windows, topped by two tablets of stone, bearing the Ten Commandments.


The Temple referred to by Paul is built!


In the interior, marble has been used extensively, especially for the Ark situated beneath the stained-glass windows. This I believe is the Holy Place which will be desecrated by the "Abomination of Desolation" referred to by Jesus (Matthew 24:15)



The countdown is well on the way.

 

[VCO]

The Temple that will have the A/D is already built.

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No, that looks like a MORMON Building, GOD's Dwelling on early Can only be on Mt. ZION. There Mt. today hat they called Mt. Zion after politition like Sanhedrin VOTED ON it in 1212 AD. was way west of Mt. Moriah, which was the name of the whole ridge. Mt. Zion has to have LIVING WATER supply, which is Spring Water, and the ONLY Spring Water in Jerusalem is southeast of the OPHEL. And the because designed it that way IT HAS A SIPHON SPRING, one of the few on earth. Which means It can pump water up to the OPHE, if the bottom two holes ARE pugged. Check out WARREN's Shaft, that is the name of that Siphon Spring.

 

[VCO]

I will have more PROOF AND PICTURES of Public Domain Tomorrow, It is 2:00 AM now. Very Tired.

 

[Carbon]

. Huh?

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

. Huh?

There is a lot of interest in certain circles about the third temple being built and it's significance to end times timing. Unfortunately so MUCH interest that it crosses into weirdness, Carbon.

Now I agree that an actual third temple will be built. When is somewhat irrelevant to me. Anywho...don't stress over it too much.

 

[civic]

I find this very interesting. The precursor to the real 7 year world peace agreement in Daniel 9, Revelation, Matthew 24 and in Pauls epistles.

The Abraham Accords - United States Department of State

The Abraham Accords Declaration We, the undersigned, recognize the importance of maintaining and strengthening peace in the Middle East and around the world based on mutual understanding and coexistence, as well as respect for human dignity and freedom, including religious freedom. We encourage...

www.state.gov

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

I find this very interesting. The precursor to the real 7 year world peace agreement in Revelation, Matthew 24 and in Pauls epistles.

Correct...the 70th week of Daniel. And halfway through it the pact is broken and the temple is desecrated. The trouble is trying to nail down exactly when as well as who is blowing smoke and who is factual.

 

[Alive]

At this point in my understanding, I do not see how any temple built in Israel, has any eschatological relevance.
Another issue that I have is with some folks who believe that at some time in the Kingdom, animals sacrifice will be re-insituted and efficacious for sin.

 

[civic]

At this point in my understanding, I do not see how any temple built in Israel, has any eschatological relevance.
Another issue that I have is with some folks who believe that at some time in the Kingdom, animals sacrifice will be re-insituted and efficacious for sin.

If they are Jews who believe the O.T. then the sacrificial system makes sense if they want to obey the OT law.

 

[Alive]

If they are Jews who believe the O.T. then the sacrificial system makes sense if they want to obey the OT law.

Where is Aaron? Or, where are the Levites?
But these things are not relevant to God's Economy--the veil was rent top to bottom.

 

[civic]

Where is Aaron? Or, where are the Levites?
But these things are not relevant to God's Economy--the veil was rent top to bottom.

Agreed but if for instance the temple is rebuilt then the OT system would follow along with its guidelines and laws. I'm sure they will work out those details if its in Gods plan. I don't plan to be around anyways as I don't like Post Toasties for breakfast.

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

At this point in my understanding, I do not see how any temple built in Israel, has any eschatological relevance.
Another issue that I have is with some folks who believe that at some time in the Kingdom, animals sacrifice will be re-insituted and efficacious for sin.

Now see...this is the sort of thing I get irritated with. Not you, brother, but this statement. Who, exactly, states that sacrifice would be efficacious for sin?

We all know that the transition from the law of Sinai to the law of Christ was exceedingly difficult for Hebrew believers and was cause for tension. It's well documented in Scripture and yet somehow my Amil brother and sisters ignore the fact. Then there is this inconvenient little tidbit:

Acts 21:
20 And when they heard it they began glorifying God; and they said to him, “You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed, and they are all zealous for the Law;21 and they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs.22 What, then, is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come.23 Therefore do this that we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow;24 take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law.25 But concerning the Gentiles who have believed, we wrote, having decided that they should keep from meat sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from sexual immorality.”26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day, purifying himself along with them, went into the temple giving notice of the completion of the days of purification, until the sacrifice was offered for each one of them.

So what if the Temple is rebuilt and the sacrifices re-start? It means nothing to a Christian. It meant nothing to Paul save to keep the peace. It is commanded of the "Jews" and they have been longing to get back to it because it's *required* for them and they have been faking it for well over 1,000 years hoping that God will turn a blind eye too their sin.

It is for the Christian a major signpost in the eschatology espoused in the Bible though...and everyone who's tradition does not allow for it gets bent out of shape.

 

[CrazyCalvinistUncle]

Where is Aaron? Or, where are the Levites?
But these things are not relevant to God's Economy--the veil was rent top to bottom.

Exactly where God put them. That's the thing about being lost...men lose track. God does not.

 

[Deleted member 5]

Now see...this is the sort of thing I get irritated with. Not you, brother, but this statement. Who, exactly, states that sacrifice would be efficacious for sin?

We all know that the transition from the law of Sinai to the law of Christ was exceedingly difficult for Hebrew believers and was cause for tension. It's well documented in Scripture and yet somehow my Amil brother and sisters ignore the fact. Then there is this inconvenient little tidbit:

Acts 21:
20 And when they heard it they began glorifying God; and they said to him, “You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed, and they are all zealous for the Law;21 and they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs.22 What, then, is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come.23 Therefore do this that we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow;24 take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law.25 But concerning the Gentiles who have believed, we wrote, having decided that they should keep from meat sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from sexual immorality.”26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day, purifying himself along with them, went into the temple giving notice of the completion of the days of purification, until the sacrifice was offered for each one of them.

So what if the Temple is rebuilt and the sacrifices re-start? It means nothing to a Christian. It meant nothing to Paul save to keep the peace. It is commanded of the "Jews" and they have been longing to get back to it because it's *required* for them and they have been faking it for well over 1,000 years hoping that God will turn a blind eye too their sin.

It is for the Christian a major signpost in the eschatology espoused in the Bible though...and everyone who's tradition does not allow for it gets bent out of shape.

He may be speaking of it being efficacious to the ones making the offerings, which would likely be the reason they rebuilt the temple.

 

[civic]

Now see...this is the sort of thing I get irritated with. Not you, brother, but this statement. Who, exactly, states that sacrifice would be efficacious for sin?

We all know that the transition from the law of Sinai to the law of Christ was exceedingly difficult for Hebrew believers and was cause for tension. It's well documented in Scripture and yet somehow my Amil brother and sisters ignore the fact. Then there is this inconvenient little tidbit:

Acts 21:
20 And when they heard it they began glorifying God; and they said to him, “You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed, and they are all zealous for the Law;21 and they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs.22 What, then, is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come.23 Therefore do this that we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow;24 take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law.25 But concerning the Gentiles who have believed, we wrote, having decided that they should keep from meat sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from sexual immorality.”26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day, purifying himself along with them, went into the temple giving notice of the completion of the days of purification, until the sacrifice was offered for each one of them.

So what if the Temple is rebuilt and the sacrifices re-start? It means nothing to a Christian. It meant nothing to Paul save to keep the peace. It is commanded of the "Jews" and they have been longing to get back to it because it's *required* for them and they have been faking it for well over 1,000 years hoping that God will turn a blind eye too their sin.

It is for the Christian a major signpost in the eschatology espoused in the Bible though...and everyone who's tradition does not allow for it gets bent out of shape.

I agree its not but even in the N.T. epistles Paul warned the Jewish converts about reverting back to the law and the Author of Hebrews warns the same Jews of going back as well to their laws/traditions. And if one is Premillennial, Mid or Post they believe there will be a temple with the sacrificial system in place. I'm in that camp but not dogmatic about it.