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WHEN IS A JEW NOT A JEW?

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I am not accusing. . just a warning to be careful how we can hear God not seen Remember Satan the god of this world offers all the kingdoms and all the glory if we simply ignore do not add or subtract from the perfect, sealed with seven seals of perfection .
Since you reject angels, then WHO IS SATAN you are referring to?

I think I know what you will say, but go ahead and tells us.
 
Since you reject angels, then WHO IS SATAN you are referring to?

I think I know what you will say, but go ahead and tells us.
Thanks I can try . What's the number for the lottery my roof has a leak ? LOL

I would offer Lucifer a spirit of God. God used Lucifer as reflection of the light God to guard the unseen glory of our invisible God from temporal mankind. Just like John the baptist a reflection or witness of the light of our Holy Father not the source our Holy Father .Satan took it upon his own lie I will, I will, I will exalt myself as Lord of lords, King of kings, Father of fathers Believing the very lies he spoke self deception false pride

Children of light, sons of God. what we will be . Christian the new name the Holy Father named his bride in Acts Literally meaning as a demonym "Residents of the city of Christ" . . .Prepared for his bride the church Named after her founder and husband Christ . I think a more befitting name to name the bride of all nations

God is light signified by the 12 stones used on the breastplate of the high priest.Called stones of fire both cleaning and destroying Stones of many colors to be used like the coat of Joseph many colors to represent all the nation

God found self pride in the heart of lucifer light bearer not light giver God is Light and not only that he can create it temporal (under the sun) as he did the first three days The glory of God departed The the god of this world the father of lies that appose God truth choose the most beautiful of Gods' creation to be used as the lust of the eye, lust of the flesh the false pride builders I would think multi colored like some deep sea creatures. Flames of many colors The father of lies legs were cut of as the serpent the father of lies , could no longer walk with God,






Ezekiel 28:15-17
 
I think you should slow down before you start believing God is still brining new revelations Like James Jones, Charles Manson or any other seduced by the father of lies a murder beginning with Cain and Abel the first prophet martyred. A serial murderer from the beginning hating all flesh. (God creation)

The last living abiding word was given sealed with 7 seals til to end of time .Revelation remains the last chapter in the Book of Prophecy Satan the one with all power as the kings of lyings signs to wonder after will be permitted to deceive those who reject sola scriptura as the one reforming authority.

Satan spirit of the antichrists'. . false prophets, false apostles .

2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

I am not accusing. . just a warning to be careful how we can hear God not seen Remember Satan the god of this world offers all the kingdoms and all the glory if we simply ignore do not add or subtract from the perfect, sealed with seven seals of perfection .
No new revelation?
I suppose a newborn believer who begins to learn the Scripture and this so-great salvation is not new revelation to him.
You have a false and limited view of the Hebrew Scriptures.
The Abrahamic Covenant was a new revelation to Abraham and he and his kids through the years were given new revelation of that covenant each time God sent a prophet and spoke to them about that covenant and the new revelations to come.

There is still new revelation of Scripture yet to come, so fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy night.
 
There's a difference between being an "Ethnic Jew" (who may be "just another lost sinner"), and a "Spiritual Jew" who's become part of God's PROVISION for the cleansing of your SIN.
The spiritual aspect of the New Covenant is given to the House of Israel in total. It doesn't say a part of the House of Israel, or the 6 out of twelve tribes, or any percentage of their house. The House encompasses all Israel of twelve tribes.
 
jeremiah1five said:
Same thing happened to Jesus in the desert being tempted. It was from within, not without. When you are tempted do you pass blame to someone else? The "devil made me do it"?
Before I address your words here, let me ask you to explain what do you mean that Jesus' temptations came from within?

In you explaining exactly what you mean with that statement will guide me in better answering this post correctly.
 
Before I address your words here, let me ask you to explain what do you mean that Jesus' temptations came from within?

In you explaining exactly what you mean with that statement will guide me in better answering this post correctly.
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
James 1:14.

Jesus is a man, right?
 
Jesus is a man, right?
Jesus was man in one true biblical sense.

14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
James 1:14.
Jesus' temptation was not from any inward lust, as fallen man is tempted. He was made in the likeness of sinful flesh, to condemn sin in the flesh, and he perfectly did so. Sin was not in his flesh. There was no sinful lust working in him secretly as it does in our fallen nature.

Jesus' temptations came directly from without through the working of Satan working in all three avenues which sin works in our members ~ even during our most spiritual acts of serving God.


If one carefully reads Matthew 4 where Jesus was tempted by the Devil, he came at Jesus in all three of these avenues, with no success.

I have more to say, but I want you to address this first so we can move forward.
 
No new revelation?
I suppose a newborn believer who begins to learn the Scripture and this so-great salvation is not new revelation to him.
You have a false and limited view of the Hebrew Scriptures.
The Abrahamic Covenant was a new revelation to Abraham and he and his kids through the years were given new revelation of that covenant each time God sent a prophet and spoke to them about that covenant and the new revelations to come.

There is still new revelation of Scripture yet to come, so fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy night.
You just cannot make up things as it goes along There will be no new revelations

Scripture is the Revelation spoken of that we are not to add or subtract from .

You have a false idea what the living word of God is , God is not a Hebrew man . During the first century reformation when the veil was rent there was no jewish King of kings sitting in the Holy of Holies. Satan could not longer seduce the whole world to believe God is a Hebrew man Satan fell as recorded in chapter 20 .he will be loosed for a short while to again deceive mankind that God is a Jewish man.

Why not preach the gospel of Christ eternal God and not the false gospel on temporal dying mankind as oral traditions ? What kind of reward are you seeking after ?


.Revelation 20;1-3 King James Version And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
 
The spiritual aspect of the New Covenant is given to the House of Israel in total. It doesn't say a part of the House of Israel, or the 6 out of twelve tribes, or any percentage of their house. The House encompasses all Israel of twelve tribes.
The VAST MAJORITY OF WHOM, have denied their Messiah, and are headed for BIG TROUBLE when they die.
 
You just cannot make up things as it goes along There will be no new revelations

Scripture is the Revelation spoken of that we are not to add or subtract from .

You have a false idea what the living word of God is , God is not a Hebrew man . During the first century reformation when the veil was rent there was no jewish King of kings sitting in the Holy of Holies. Satan could not longer seduce the whole world to believe God is a Hebrew man Satan fell as recorded in chapter 20 .he will be loosed for a short while to again deceive mankind that God is a Jewish man.

Why not preach the gospel of Christ eternal God and not the false gospel on temporal dying mankind as oral traditions ? What kind of reward are you seeking after ?


.Revelation 20;1-3 King James Version And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
This is one of the better posts you have done. Not saying you and i will agree on the little season and when that season comes, but overall you did okay with this post IMO.
 
I would offer Lucifer a spirit of God
Do you mean a spirit created by God? Is this what you saying?
God used Lucifer as reflection of the light God to guard the unseen glory of our invisible God from temporal mankind.
This does not make very much sense~besides, you have any scriptures to support what you believe, other than what you just want to offer up?

I'll give my understanding of Satan once you are finished. Mine will have scriptures to support what I believe.
 
Do you mean a spirit created by God? Is this what you saying?

This does not make very much sense~besides, you have any scriptures to support what you believe, other than what you just want to offer up?

I'll give my understanding of Satan once you are finished. Mine will have scriptures to support what I believe.
No such creation. . . "let there be" and "there was the devil" .

Spirit of Christ the spirit of protection. . Lucifer a reflection of God unseen glory . The father of lies of father the father of false apostles (antichrists ) was to protect the beauty of His creation. again the devil was not made as a creation .as if by His faith . . . 'Let there be one dark one that denies truth. Truth must have a defender as to its author . in order to prevent spiritual plagiarism .Having another god before our Holy father the Spirit of sonship of Abba Father .the first commandment . (Sola scriptura) One author

Put on the whole armor of light

Scripture does support Satan is not a creation he is the fake Creator

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
 
When he does not live by faith in the resurrected Messiah, the seed promised their forefathers.

Romans 9:33
Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense; and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.

I'm a little curious how an answer to the inquiry of this op would npt begin with Romans 2.

Romans 2:17-29
But if you bear the name "Jew" and rely upon the Law and boast in God, and know His will and approve the things that are essential, being instructed out of the Law, and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness, a corrector of the foolish, a teacher of the immature, having in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth, you, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that one shall not steal, do you steal? You who say that one should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? You who boast in the Law, through your breaking the Law, do you dishonor God? For "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you," just as it is written. For indeed circumcision is of value if you practice the Law; but if you are a transgressor of the Law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. So if the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements of the Law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision? And he who is physically uncircumcised, if he keeps the Law, will he not judge you who though having the letter of the Law and circumcision are a transgressor of the Law? For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.

If a Jew is Jewish only outwardly then s/he is not a Jew, having a circumcised penis does not make one a Jew. It is the inner circumcision of the heart that makes a Jew a Jew, and that is accomplished by the Spirit, not the letter of the law or the hand of the mohel ;).
And an Edomite will never be considered a Jew no matter what, yet they claim to be. Even going as far as to claim themselves as a 13th tribe.
 
Yes, but my point was about the other part of the verse - "in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”


Yes, family means a circle of relatives. I do know what it means.
However the verse in question clearly says all families on earth - this is not just a reference to Abraham's descendants.


See above


I used the passage in the same way Paul did in his letter to the Romans.


Yes, everything in the OT points to Jesus. The whole Bible is a unified whole that points to Jesus. No argument here.


Luke was not a Jew.


Mormonism is heresy.


Yes, salvation is of the Jews, because Jesus was a Jew. Yes, the Jews wrote the OT, obviously. Yes, the NT church began with Jews in Jerusalem. But it didn't stop there. The church grew rapidly, and is still growing today. And consists of both Jews and Gentiles, and both are one in Christ.

Paul goes to great pains in his letters to point out the unity that we now have in Christ - there is no longer Jew or Gentil ... but both are one in Christ Jesus. We all make up the body of Christ. "There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call— one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." Ephesians 4:4-6. The body of Christ is not split in two - one a covenant family and the other a non-convenant family. It is united.

You can dismiss what I say if you like, but it is simply untrue to say that Bible was written by Jews and to Jews. As I pointed out Luke was not a Jew. Paul wrote to many churches that were a mix of Jews and Gentiles. Paul clearly addresses the Gentiles in his letter to the Ephesians (Eph 2:11). Titus was a Gentile (as indicated in Galatians 2:3).
I disagree with " Luke was not a Jew". But, che sara sara. No biggie. Afterall, Joseph's double blessing in his sons Manasseh and Ephraim should put to rest the "no Gentile is part of the covenant with God" claim. They are after all, Hebrew and Gentile mix, their mother being Egyptian and all. That also destroys the ignorant claim that a person's Jewishness is determined by the mother. Those types of that opinion would even deny the Tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim, making themselves however, a special 13th tribe or would that be 11th having excluded two of the original and inserting their Edomite selves? Things that make you go hmmmm?
 
Many Christians fail to see what they have on their hearts, and listen to Christ when it comes to how to treat others..

Matthew 7:5
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Good advice to live by.
 
I disagree with " Luke was not a Jew". But, che sara sara. No biggie. Afterall, Joseph's double blessing in his sons Manasseh and Ephraim should put to rest the "no Gentile is part of the covenant with God" claim. They are after all, Hebrew and Gentile mix, their mother being Egyptian and all. That also destroys the ignorant claim that a person's Jewishness is determined by the mother. Those types of that opinion would even deny the Tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim, making themselves however, a special 13th tribe or would that be 11th having excluded two of the original and inserting their Edomite selves? Things that make you go hmmmm?

God is not served by the dying hands as a will of men

Remember the first century reformation came over two thousand years ago.(Hebrew 9) It finished using the outward dying flesh of Jew during the time period there a was a Jewish King.(abomination of desolation ) A pagan foundation human form replacing the power as faith of the unseen Holy Spirit .

Seems clear to me if any man has not the born again Spirit of Christ then neither do they belong to our unseen Holy Father. Jews used to represent all of mankind dead in thier trseesspass and sin he could of used a German or African I just don't get the whole Jew thingamajig

When the veil was rent there was no Jewish King of kings sitting in the holy Place .Satan fell and could no longer seduce every nation that God is a Jewish man . witnessed in Revelation 20:3

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Do you have the Spirit of Christ ????? Don't leave earth without. .
 
Are you a Christian? If so, coming from Edom (descendant from Esau), would make you a Gentile convert to Christ.
Are you a Christian? Then don't pretext me. Esau is a Gentile then and not the brother of Jacob? So, what makes one a Gentile and what makes one a true Israelite? Your answer will determine what you are.
 
God is not served by the dying hands as a will of men

Remember the first century reformation came over two thousand years ago.(Hebrew 9) It finished using the outward dying flesh of Jew during the time period there a was a Jewish King.(abomination of desolation ) A pagan foundation human form replacing the power as faith of the unseen Holy Spirit .

Seems clear to me if any man has not the born again Spirit of Christ then neither do they belong to our unseen Holy Father. Jews used to represent all of mankind dead in thier trseesspass and sin he could of used a German or African I just don't get the whole Jew thingamajig

When the veil was rent there was no Jewish King of kings sitting in the holy Place .Satan fell and could no longer seduce every nation that God is a Jewish man . witnessed in Revelation 20:3

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Do you have the Spirit of Christ ????? Don't leave earth without. .
Clearly, you are here to try and make other people look good with your nonsensical replies. Thanks.
 
Are you a Christian? If so, coming from Edom (descendant from Esau), would make you a Gentile convert to Christ.
So, did Isaac have seed to produce a Gentile son and a Hebrew son? The Land of Edom got its name from Esau who was called Edom for selling his birthright for some Red Stew. I'm sure you already know that. Are you saying Esau was not a Hebrew and why?
 
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