What Of The Holy Spirit That Is In Us?

[SeventhDay]

What Of The Holy Spirit That Is In Us?
Our walk in Christ is a spiritual walk or we are not walking in Christ at all.
Is the Spirit at work in us or not is what we must know and ask.
We are joined to one spirit thus it is a spiritual union and that is how we live out our lives in Christ.
Either the Spirit of Christ is in us or not and if he is in us then all we think, say and do is in the Spirit.
When we pray we are led by the Spirit and what we pray is of the Spirit and its outcome is of the Spirit.
When we encourage one another and pray together it is of the Spirit or it is vain!
Why do we have spiritual gifts and produce spiritual fruit? It is because of the Spirit of God that is in us and that is how we think, speak and act!
The effective prayer of a righteous man avails much because it is a prayer led by the Spirit and produces spiritual results.
Seeking and knowing the will of God is through the Spirit and that is how we live and serve or Lord and God. There is no other way!
Now, our primary gift from God is the Spirit thus we have all the spiritual gifts we need for the moment and we produce spiritual fruit as we grow in the Spirit of God and produce his character is us and do his mighty works!
If we suffer in the flesh and we walk in the flesh what do we produce?
Is it not the Spirit that quickens our mortal bodies and is not our healing of the Spirit of God?
We are to acknowledge that God is with us and put him first but we can not do either without the Spirit!
If we are not our own and our lives are hid in God then what kind of life to we live?
If we identify with the Christ that is in us and we are of his spiritual body then we live a holy spiritual life separate on to God.
There is nothing of the flesh that will enter the kingdom of God that is in us and if we are walking in the Spirit then we are already walking in the kingdom of God and will grow spiritually complete in God.
Jesus is the anointed Messiah and we are in him thus we as well are anointed and thus we are spiritually led like Jesus was and we do spiritual works like Jesus did.
In conclusion we must understand that we are joined to one Spirit which is a spiritual union and thus we walk in the Spirit and serve God in the Spirit.

 

[Josheb]

What Of The Holy Spirit That Is In Us?
Our walk in Christ is a spiritual walk or we are not walking in Christ at all.
Is the Spirit at work in us or not is what we must know and ask.
We are joined to one spirit thus it is a spiritual union and that is how we live out our lives in Christ.
Either the Spirit of Christ is in us or not and if he is in us then all we think, say and do is in the Spirit.
When we pray we are led by the Spirit and what we pray is of the Spirit and its outcome is of the Spirit.
When we encourage one another and pray together it is of the Spirit or it is vain!
Why do we have spiritual gifts and produce spiritual fruit? It is because of the Spirit of God that is in us and that is how we think, speak and act!
The effective prayer of a righteous man avails much because it is a prayer led by the Spirit and produces spiritual results.
Seeking and knowing the will of God is through the Spirit and that is how we live and serve or Lord and God. There is no other way!
Now, our primary gift from God is the Spirit thus we have all the spiritual gifts we need for the moment and we produce spiritual fruit as we grow in the Spirit of God and produce his character is us and do his mighty works!
If we suffer in the flesh and we walk in the flesh what do we produce?
Is it not the Spirit that quickens our mortal bodies and is not our healing of the Spirit of God?
We are to acknowledge that God is with us and put him first but we can not do either without the Spirit!
If we are not our own and our lives are hid in God then what kind of life to we live?
If we identify with the Christ that is in us and we are of his spiritual body then we live a holy spiritual life separate on to God.
There is nothing of the flesh that will enter the kingdom of God that is in us and if we are walking in the Spirit then we are already walking in the kingdom of God and will grow spiritually complete in God.
Jesus is the anointed Messiah and we are in him thus we as well are anointed and thus we are spiritually led like Jesus was and we do spiritual works like Jesus did.
In conclusion we must understand that we are joined to one Spirit which is a spiritual union and thus we walk in the Spirit and serve God in the Spirit.

Who is the "we" and the "us," in this opening post?

 

[SeventhDay]

Who is the "we" and the "us," in this opening post?

The we and the us are the ones who HAVE BEEN QUICKENED OUT OF DEATH WITH A NEW SPIRITUAL DISPOSITION AND HAVE HEARD AND RESPOINDED TO THE SPIRIT'S CALLING AND ACCEPTED THE GOOD NEWS MESSAGE.

 

[Manfred]

What Of The Holy Spirit That Is In Us?
Our walk in Christ is a spiritual walk or we are not walking in Christ at all.
Is the Spirit at work in us or not is what we must know and ask.
We are joined to one spirit thus it is a spiritual union and that is how we live out our lives in Christ.
Either the Spirit of Christ is in us or not and if he is in us then all we think, say and do is in the Spirit.
When we pray we are led by the Spirit and what we pray is of the Spirit and its outcome is of the Spirit.
When we encourage one another and pray together it is of the Spirit or it is vain!
Why do we have spiritual gifts and produce spiritual fruit? It is because of the Spirit of God that is in us and that is how we think, speak and act!
The effective prayer of a righteous man avails much because it is a prayer led by the Spirit and produces spiritual results.
Seeking and knowing the will of God is through the Spirit and that is how we live and serve or Lord and God. There is no other way!
Now, our primary gift from God is the Spirit thus we have all the spiritual gifts we need for the moment and we produce spiritual fruit as we grow in the Spirit of God and produce his character is us and do his mighty works!
If we suffer in the flesh and we walk in the flesh what do we produce?
Is it not the Spirit that quickens our mortal bodies and is not our healing of the Spirit of God?
We are to acknowledge that God is with us and put him first but we can not do either without the Spirit!
If we are not our own and our lives are hid in God then what kind of life to we live?
If we identify with the Christ that is in us and we are of his spiritual body then we live a holy spiritual life separate on to God.
There is nothing of the flesh that will enter the kingdom of God that is in us and if we are walking in the Spirit then we are already walking in the kingdom of God and will grow spiritually complete in God.
Jesus is the anointed Messiah and we are in him thus we as well are anointed and thus we are spiritually led like Jesus was and we do spiritual works like Jesus did.
In conclusion we must understand that we are joined to one Spirit which is a spiritual union and thus we walk in the Spirit and serve God in the Spirit.

How does this tie in with your belief in universalism.

There is no benefit of walking in the Spirit if the lusts of the flesh can be satisfied without any consequences, right?

 

[SeventhDay]

How does this tie in with your belief in universalism.

There is no benefit of walking in the Spirit if the lusts of the flesh can be satisfied without any consequences, right?

God is a God of Judgement is he not? Does not judgement begin first at the kingdom of God?

 

[Manfred]

God is a God of Judgement is he not? Does not judgement begin first at the kingdom of God?

According to your theology, there is no judgement as all will be saved regardless.

Your response has no meaning.

 

[SeventhDay]

According to your theology, there is no judgement as all will be saved regardless.

Your response has no meaning.

I meant judgement first begins at the house of God. Salvation does not exclude judgement! Where are you getting your teachings? The difference between those who are saved and not saved is one is under the wrath of God and the other is not. However, God will save all and no one escapes God's judgement!

 

[Josheb]

The we and the us are the ones who HAVE BEEN QUICKENED OUT OF DEATH WITH A NEW SPIRITUAL DISPOSITION AND HAVE HEARD AND RESPOINDED TO THE SPIRIT'S CALLING AND ACCEPTED THE GOOD NEWS MESSAGE.

For the sake of this thread, may I call them "saints" and/or "Christians"?

 

[SeventhDay]

For the sake of this thread, may I call them "saints" and/or "Christians"?

Why yes of course!

 

[Josheb]

Why yes of course!

Then let me ak you to do something with your own op. I'd do a sample of it myself but I have to go.

Take the word "saints" and replace all the "uses of "we" and "us" with that word (or "Christian") and see how the op reads. I think you'll find the op saying things that were probably not intended. If so, then feel free to amend the op accordingly. Take your time because I probably won't be back in the forum tonight.

 

[SeventhDay]

Then let me ak you to do something with your own op. I'd do a sample of it myself but I have to go.

Take the word "saints" and replace all the "uses of "we" and "us" with that word (or "Christian") and see how the op reads. I think you'll find the op saying things that were probably not intended. If so, then feel free to amend the op accordingly. Take your time because I probably won't be back in the forum tonight.

The Op is directed towards Christians or saints thus I see no need to make changes. Thank you for your suggestion.

 

[Manfred]

However, God will save all and no one escapes God's judgement!

God saving all negates His judgement.

You hold to a false teaching where no one has to repent in this life. Live as you like for you will be saved one day.

 

[SeventhDay]

God saving all negates His judgement.

You hold to a false teaching where no one has to repent in this life. Live as you like for you will be saved one day.

Where do you get that from me? God wants all to repent and God makes that possible. That is what Jesus atonement is about. God makes a new spiritual man who has a spiritual disposition as a result of being quickened out of death. That is the only way one can have a change of heart. There is no other way. It requires spiritual repentance that comes from a quickened spirit!

 

[Josheb]

The Op is directed towards Christians or saints thus I see no need to make changes. Thank you for your suggestion.

Huh.

Either the Spirit of Christ is in us or not and if he is in us then all we think, say and do is in the Spirit.

You think it is possible for the Spirit to NOT be in a Christian?

The effective prayer of a righteous man avails much because it is a prayer led by the Spirit...

Not if the Spirit is not in him/her.

Seeking and knowing the will of God is through the Spirit and that is how we live and serve or Lord and God. There is no other way!

Especially if a Christian does not have the Spirit in him.

Now, our primary gift from God is the Spirit...

Not if the Spirit is not in the Christian.

Is it not the Spirit that quickens our mortal bodies and is not our healing of the Spirit of God?

It is! How then would it be possible for a saint, a Christian, to NOT in him?

...I see no need to make changes.

How about now?

 

[SeventhDay]

Huh.

You think it is possible for the Spirit to NOT be in a Christian?

Not if the Spirit is not in him/her.

Especially if a Christian does not have the Spirit in him.

Not if the Spirit is not in the Christian.

It is! How then would it be possible for a saint, a Christian, to NOT in him?

How about now?

The Spirit is always in the Christian but is the Christian always aware of what the Spirit is doing so he can harmonize with God's will. The prayer of a righteous man comes from one who through the Spirit harmonizes with God's will.

If a Christian does not have the Spirit then he is not of God and is not a Christian at all!

 

[Manfred]

Where do you get that from me?

From your heretic theology.

God wants all to repent and God makes that possible.

You made that up.

That is what Jesus atonement is about.

You made that up.

God makes a new spiritual man who has a spiritual disposition as a result of being quickened out of death.

Not all men

That is the only way one can have a change of heart.

Not all men

There is no other way.

Correct, that is why not all are saved.

It requires spiritual repentance that comes from a quickened spirit!

And it does not happen with all men.

 

[SeventhDay]

From your heretic theology.

You made that up.

You made that up.

Not all men

Not all men

Correct, that is why not all are saved.

And it does not happen with all men.

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1Ti 4:9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.
1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1Ti 4:11 These things command and teach.

Now, the Savior of all men saves all men and how is it that God does that? How is it that you were saved and now believe in Christ for your salvation? What God has done for you will God do the same for all?

By not teaching that Jesus will save all you deny Jesus atonement and make your faith in Jesus that saved you foolishness and your belief in him is in vain!

The teaching that says God saves some and not others is a doctrine of demons and a complete denial of Jesus atonement!

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Such a teaching that teaches that God only saves some is a damnable heresy! You can be sure of that!

Eph 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Yes, the heretical teaching that Jesus saves some but not all is a heretical teaching and a denial of the Lord who bought them!

Repent from such false teachings and teach the truth.

 

[Josheb]

The Spirit is always in the Christian...

Then the op needs to be amended accordingly.

....but is the Christian always aware of what the Spirit is doing....?

Great question, but that's irrelevant for any Christian in whom the Spirit does not reside and work. Instead of asserting the possibility of no indwelling or agency, the op should assume both as a given.

If a Christian does not have the Spirit then he is not of God and is not a Christian at all!

Yep. That's how the op should read, and it doesn't.

Did the Holy Spirit make that mistake?

 

[SeventhDay]

Then the op needs to be amended accordingly.

Great question, but that's irrelevant for any Christian in whom the Spirit does not reside and work. Instead of asserting the possibility of no indwelling or agency, the op should assume both as a given.

Yep. That's how the op should read, and it doesn't.

Did the Holy Spirit make that mistake?

It is a given that the Spirit is at work in all believers in Christ that God has spiritually called to himself but how may are availing themselves or acknowledging the Spirit that is within them? Understand?

 

[Manfred]

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Ti 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1Ti 4:9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.
1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1Ti 4:11 These things command and teach.

Now, the Savior of all men saves all men and how is it that God does that? How is it that you were saved and now believe in Christ for your salvation? What God has done for you will God do the same for all?

By not teaching that Jesus will save all you deny Jesus atonement and make your faith in Jesus that saved you foolishness and your belief in him is in vain!

The teaching that says God saves some and not others is a doctrine of demons and a complete denial of Jesus atonement!

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Such a teaching that teaches that God only saves some is a damnable heresy! You can be sure of that!

Eph 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Yes, the heretical teaching that Jesus saves some but not all is a heretical teaching and a denial of the Lord who bought them!

Repent from such false teachings and teach the truth.

False dichotomy.

Jesus is NOT the savior of every individual. There is a caveat.
God does not have mercy and compassion on all men, but only on those on whom he will have mercy and compassion.

Stop with your false heretical teachings.
Your teaching is an abomination.