Was the Spirit of God Indwelling the Redeemed before Pentecost?

[ChristB4us]

The voice of our invisible God who is Light and not that he can only create it temporal . His glory as Light departed from the corrupted creation day 3 .

You need to clarify that comment, Are you referring to the third day of creation week or are you referring to the third day that He rose from the dead?

Seeing false pride in the heart of Lucifer who was to protect Christ's glory but rather usurped it as the "god" of this word Lucifer the legion of lying spirits .

FYI Lucifer is not the original name for Satan as that term does not exists anywhere in the Greek manuscripts regarding Isaiah 14:12 as it was a term borrowed from the Latin Vulgate as a reference to the planet Venus, that "son of the morning". The proverbs in Isaiah 14th chapter was about a king in Babylon for boasting of himself in the sight of God and men for why it was prophesied that he shall die and his corpse shall be left unburied

The father displaying his power working in His son who had no power . The Son of man Jesus arose with power of the Father .

Jesus has the power of God as God Our Creator & as God Our Redeemer as Jesus is submissive to His Father's will as the Holy Spirit does as well for why & how "They" are the One God.

Two gods . One the eternal Faithful Creator Christ and the other the temporal dying creation. Born again sons of God outwardly diplatying the power of the Father.

John 10:34-36 King James Version34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

We are married to Christ the Bridegroom, by faith in Jesus Christ, for how we are One with the Lord & how we can call God Father too.

1 Corinthians 6:14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.

16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Those that are worthy of the firstfruits of the resurrection, shall be one with the Father in Heaven as well in that we will never sin against God ever again to be separated from God ever again because of sin.

God is with us while we are in this vile body of death but soon, by our hope in Jesus Christ, we shall be raptured & united with God the Father in Heaven where we will never sin nor be separated from the Father ever again.

 

[Mr GLee]

You need to clarify that comment, Are you referring to the third day of creation week or are you referring to the third day that He rose from the dead?

Creation week day three seeing pride in the heart of the father of lies his Light of the whole world departed .Day created four tow time keeper winding down to last day under the Sun

FYI Lucifer is not the original name for Satan as that term does not exists anywhere in the Greek manuscripts regarding Isaiah 14:12 as it was a term borrowed from the Latin Vulgate as a reference to the planet Venus, that "son of the morning". The proverbs in Isaiah 14th chapter was about a king in Babylon for boasting of himself in the sight of God and men for why it was prophesied that he shall die and his corpse shall be left unburied

I agree it could be called "son of the morning" a reflection of the glory .

Jesus has the power of God as God Our Creator & as God Our Redeemer as Jesus is submissive to His Father's will as the Holy Spirit does as well for why & how "They" are the One God.

The power of Christ faithfulness worked in the Son of man Jesus .Jesus demonstrated the work of the unseen Father. The dynamic dual

 

[ChristB4us]

Creation week day three seeing pride in the heart of the father of lies his Light of the whole world departed .Day created four tow time keeper winding down to last day under the Sun

I am not sure where you got that from, but out of all the 6 days of creation, only the 2nd day was the day God did not say it was good only because He was not done creating the earth until day 3 for why He said the earth was good then because He was done creating the earth.

The earth was not there the first day. Light was created to establish the beginning hence time was created by that evening and morning that first 24 hour day.

Then God began to create the earth by dividing the water that was there by a firmament ( gravity ) as that gravity divided in the midst of the water to form "the water planet" from the other water ( the sky or the upper atmosphere ). God did not say it was good because He was not done creating the planet earth until day 3 when He laid the foundation of the earth and then He said it was good as He was done creating the earth.

The creation of the sun, moon, and stars was on the 4th day and God said it was good then too.

So at the end of 6 days of creation, God said it was good for why He rested on the 7th day from all His creation per Genesis 2:1-3.

There was no sin nor any corruption during that 6 day creation week,

Satan, as that old serpent, fell in the Garden of Eden. Note how he was described in the beginning as not cursed at all.

Genesis 3:1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

The clue to his coming fall can be seen by how he was described as more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made and so pride comes before the fall.

Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

I know there are a lot of false teachings around designating Satan as if he fell before mankind had fallen but no. Satan fell that day when he had tempted mankind to sin, being haughty in spirit and prideful for thinking he could deceive Eve and then use her to tempt Adam to sin.

Everything God has created was from scratch and it was good until mankind had sinned and death came into the world and unto all of creation because of man's sin. One can see that curse on all the established order in the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

Anyway, FYI as the Lord enables me to share as I also know only the Lord can help you receive this truth as found in His words.

 

[Mr GLee]

I am not sure where you got that from, but out of all the 6 days of creation, only the 2nd day was the day God did not say it was good only because He was not done creating the earth until day 3 for why He said the earth was good then because He was done creating the earth.

He declared it was good every day, the last six. it was very good speaking of the whole .He rests on seventh .Seven perfection

I know there are a lot of false teachings around designating Satan as if he fell before mankind had fallen but no. Satan fell that day when he had tempted mankind to sin, being haughty in spirit and prideful for thinking he could deceive Eve and then use her to tempt Adam to sin.

Everything God has created was from scratch and it was good until mankind had sinned and death came into the world and unto all of creation because of man's sin. One can see that curse on all the established order in the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

Anyway, FYI as the Lord enables me to share as I also know only the Lord can help you receive this truth as found in His words.

 

[ChristB4us]

He declared it was good every day, the last six. it was very good speaking of the whole .He rests on seventh .Seven perfection

Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Where did God say it was good that second day? I believe He did not say it was good only because He was not done creating the earth until the 3rd day. The second day, He began creating the earth by using the firmament called gravity to divide teh water from the water thus creating a water planet with an upper atmosphere.

Lucifer a spirit of Christ that was to protect the glorious Creation.

Rather than protecting the light of the glory of God he usurped deceiving the creation that he is the Creator.

He became the anti-christ the false teacher that adds and subtracts from prophecy (neither shall you touch )

That is not the truth.

He hates sola scriptura

You adding to His words and making unscriptural comments is aiding and abetting in his endeavor.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

You need the help of the Lord Jesus Christ to resist sinning like that.

God saw pride in his heart on day three .Three denotes the end of a matter. Day four the two corruption time keepers winding down to the last day under the Sun.

No. That is not what was written. So go before that throne of grace for help of the Lord Jesus Christ to repent or risk being left behind at the pre great tribulation rapture for creating heresies which are works of the flesh per Galatians 5:19-21

 

[Mr GLee]

Where did God say it was good that second day? I believe He did not say it was good only because He was not done creating the earth until the 3rd day. The second day, He began creating the earth by using the firmament called gravity to divide teh water from the water thus creating a water planet with an upper atmosphere.

Hi Thanks for the reply

Genesis day two

Genesis 1: 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

That is not the truth.

What was lucifer a spirit sent by God used to protect if not the glory of God not seen.?

You adding to His words and making unscriptural comments is aiding and abetting in his endeavor.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

I am adding my understanding as a opinion .Not the living word sealed with 7 seals till the end of time (Sola Scriptura)

No. That is not what was written. So go before that throne of grace for help of the Lord Jesus Christ to repent or risk being left behind at the pre great tribulation rapture for creating heresies which are works of the flesh per Galatians 5:19-21

The left behind idea is not the gospel . As many as he has given power to come they alone will come .He will never leave of forsake the power of His faithfulness that works in us

Day six. Satan using the woman to represent the church .The father of lies prophesied adding to the word (neither shall you touch) Both Adam who was to protect her from false prophecy touched and did not die so they ate the fruit of death (false prophecy

 

[ChristB4us]

Hi Thanks for the reply

Genesis day two

Genesis 1: 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

That was day 3.

Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Nowhere in those 3 verses did God say it was good on that 2nd day because He was not done creating the earth.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

What was lucifer a spirit sent by God used to protect if not the glory of God not seen.?

You do not have any scripture saying that as truth. You are either making it up or somebody is teaching you error

I am adding my understanding as a opinion .Not the living word sealed with 7 seals till the end of time (Sola Scriptura)

From what I can tell, you need an alone time with the Lord and read from the KJV.

The left behind idea is not the gospel . As many as he has given power to come they alone will come .He will never leave of forsake the power of His faithfulness that works in us

He will never cast anyone out of the kingdom of Heaven but He will excommunicate as in cast out those found in unrepentant iniquity for why He does not know them as any iniquity that denies Him, He will deny them per Titus 1:16 from attending the Marriage Supper in Heaven.

Matthew 25:1-13 KJV

That is why the foolish with the wise are the kingdom of Heaven as they were both in it as citizens of Heaven, BUT the foolish missed out on the Marriage Supper with the Bridegroom for being out to the market seeing to be filled with extra oil ( what they believe to be the Holy Spirit, but actually the spirit of the antichrist ) for why He did not know them for being in that iniquity that denies Him whereas the wise knew they were always filled since salvation for how they ARE in that kingdom of Heaven and ready & willing to go when the Bridegroom came.

Day six. Satan using the woman to represent the church .The father of lies prophesied adding to the word (neither shall you touch) Both Adam who was to protect her from false prophecy touched and did not die so they ate the fruit of death (false prophecy

Day six as in the 6th day of creation and mixing it in with the fall of Adam & Eve which was after creation week? Not wise, Mr. Glee . Repent.

 

[Mr GLee]

Nowhere in those 3 verses did God say it was good on that 2nd day because He was not done creating the earth.

Each day he proclaimed it is good .On the last day very good. Then he rested forever

You do not have any scripture saying that as truth. You are either making it up or somebody is teaching you error

Why would you reject lucifer was a spirit sent by God to protect the glory of Christ?

From what I can tell, you need an alone time with the Lord and read from the KJV.

I do read from the KJV.

He will never cast anyone out of the kingdom of Heaven but He will excommunicate as in cast out those found in unrepentant iniquity for why He does not know them as any iniquity that denies Him, He will deny them per Titus 1:16 from attending the Marriage Supper in Heaven.

Matthew 25:1-13 KJV

That is why the foolish with the wise are the kingdom of Heaven as they were both in it as citizens of Heaven, BUT the foolish missed out on the Marriage Supper with the Bridegroom for being out to the market seeing to be filled with extra oil ( what they believe to be the Holy Spirit, but actually the spirit of the antichrist ) for why He did not know them for being in that iniquity that denies Him whereas the wise knew they were always filled since salvation for how they ARE in that kingdom of Heaven and ready & willing to go when the Bridegroom came.

That parable identifies those who believe not.

Not foolish believing sinners that need to repent

Day six as in the 6th day of creation and mixing it in with the fall of Adam & Eve which was after creation week? Not wise, Mr. Glee . Repent.

Mixing the creation with the fall?

 

[ChristB4us]

Each day he proclaimed it is good .On the last day very good. Then he rested forever

Not what the scriptures says for the 2nd day and He gave me discernment & wisdom to know why because that was when He started to create the earth and the second day it was a water planet with the sky for why He did not say it was good because He was not done creating the earth until the 3rd day and then He said it was good because He was done creating the earth.

Why would you reject lucifer was a spirit sent by God to protect the glory of Christ?

Not found in the scriptures.

I do read from the KJV.

Read it by trusting Jesus Christ to be your personal Good Shepherd in giving you wisdom in understanding His words as it is written rather than going off the scripture with false notions.

You are ignoring scripture and teaching things not found in scripture. You need His help.

1 Corinthians 3:1And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

Hebrews 5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.

12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

 

[Mr GLee]

Not what the scriptures says for the 2nd day and He gave me discernment & wisdom to know why because that was when He started to create the earth and the second day it was a water planet with the sky for why He did not say it was good because He was not done creating the earth until the 3rd day and then He said it was good because He was done creating the earth.

Its exactly what scriptura says after each day he gave his good seal of approval.

Geneisis 1: 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Not found in the scriptures.

Have you searched the meaning of Lucifer and how it is used ?

Read it by trusting Jesus Christ to be your personal Good Shepherd in giving you wisdom in understanding His words as it is written rather than going off the scripture with false notions.

You are ignoring scripture and teaching things not found in scripture. You need His help.

1 Corinthians 3:1And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

Hebrews 5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.

12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil

How else can we seek the approval of Christ not seen other than reading and seeking the interpreting the spiritual unseen things of Christ.

It would seem you are denying the eternal spiritual the unseen things of Christ .And focusing on the temporal historical.

The the temporal historical must be mixed with the unseen eternal or no gospel rest

Using the valuable prescription given in 2 Corinthians 4 can help divide the parables .Hiding the spiritual not seen from dying mankind .

2 Corinthians 4:18King James Version While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Remember without parables using the temporal things seen the historical it must be mixed with the invisible eternal spiritual No mixing of the parable no gospel rest

Hebrews 4King James Version4 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.