For the 5th time , your inability to see that the kingdom of priest fulfillment is announced right after his cutting rebuke, is just insufferable. You have failed at least 5 times to acknowledge it. Or see it in action in the text. It is the kingdom and is the answer to the question.
It is actually short. Your post is actually only one line longer than mine. Half of my post is quotes from Tertullian given to support what my post says. (And cited.)
I am reading the Bible, church father's, commentaries, etc. You do know that Dave Hunt said that he knew Calvinism better than Calvinists? He didn't. You might have put those 50 years to a better use, since you keep telling me I don't believe what I believe. Strawmen is all I have seen.
He isn't the only one to deal with this. I will get around to reading the context, because I recall that he talks about more then that in the rest of the book, though his actual main focus is a physical kingdom against the heresies of Marcion from where I took the quotes.
Consider the LXX:
Poisoning the well. Really? [BTW, some of my comments are long because I prefer NOT to remove context, and leave the comment I am responding to in total. (Unless it is so long I hit the 10,000 limit. If you read those passages, you will notice it isn't even close to the context of what I am talking about. However, it is in other places in scripture, as the early church fathers have pointed out.
Consider that the church fathers even from the early second century, even the disciple of John the apostle spoke differently than you. Polycarp (disciple of John the apostle), Igantius (disciple of John the apostle), Irenaeus (disciple of Polycarp), and Papias (disciple of Polycarp) apparently believed as I do. (And that upset Eusebius.) Those who had the witness of the apostles, and passed that on to their disciples.
And you find that wonderful word in this passage, the same that is found when the disciples asked Jesus for signs of the complete end of the world. The consummation of the ages. What do we have? We have Jesus standing crucified, at the consummation of the ages. When all is said and done, that one thing remains above all. I have always believed that Jesus crucifixion was not a fixed point in time, that only those who came after find salvation, but that his death is a fixture in eternity. I am not saying He did not die when He died, or that He wasn't resurrected, but that the heart of His sacrifice is eternal, not temporal.
Consider that you have Polycarp who was the disciple of John the apostle. He was a premillennialist. Consider that Polycarp's disciples, Irenaeus and Papias were also premillennialists. Justin Martyr was a premillennialist. (Some others whose names escape me at the moment were also premillennialst.) Just Martyr said it was the orthodox belief of the day, within a generation of John the apostle. John lived until into the second century, and spoke with people. He spoke with Polycarp after writing Revelation. In fact, he was the one who backed Polycarp for Bishop of Smyrna. Irenaeus was the disciple of Polycarp, so he had some insider knowledge as to when the Revelation was written from someone who knew and spoke with John. He dates Revelation to around 95 AD, during the reign of Domitian the tyrant. Eusebius agreed in his Ecclesiastical History of the Church.
I will just say Jesus died Friday, April 3, AD 33, by the Julian calendar, which was Nisan 14, 3793 on the Jewish calendar. That is in perfect alignment with the Passover spoken of in the gospel, with the day of preparation, as well as the sabbath, and the first day of the week. It does not contradict scripture, from God's Spirit to the apostle's pen, so that is where I will stay.
You mean everything that was accomplished prior to AD 70? Wait... that's a date.
And you don't provide even a few of these references?
So go read them. This didn't evolve in a vacuum for me, I read it from some church father, but I do not remember which of them it was. It was in connection with the kingdom though, and included the part of Daniel 9:26 which said He died and had nothing.
Each being in answer to your comment, so... I just broke your own comment into pieces and answered. You are still dodging.
The 70th week does not start until after Jerusalem and the temple are destroyed, according to Daniel. This was picked up on by Hyppolitus in the second century. Also Irenaues, and other church fathers.
It is simple, and Prince Titus would have been the one, except...ooops, he destroyed the temple before he could do it. Except that was by word of God that it happened, prophesied by Jesus Himself.
Because He planned it before the foundation of the world.
Show me the explicit words "kingdom of priest" in the reference and I will see it. If it isn't there explicitly, then it is your belief being projected on it. Jesus has already said that it is not for them to know when God is going to do it, BUT for now... I do not consider it as you do. Why should it be insufferable if I don't believe as you do, but as many others do? There is the condescension I was expecting to see, next to me asking questions and me answering.
I take it you are paraphrasing since it can't be seen there without you saying it? That would be your interpretation. I understand that the apostles were God's ambassadors to the world, who speak for their King, as Jesus told them to do explicitly in the verse. (Minus the word King, and Jesus said His witnesses (those who saw him, lived with him, and could give witness of him), while ambassador shows up elsewhere in scripture.) I don't even have to paraphrase. It is right there. There witness is empowered by the Holy Spirit, by whom their witness is validated/certified as true.
Don't waste your time or money. I have gotten tired of getting books, and not reading them. I am slow at reading (due to life circumstances) and have a rather large pile of books on more important topics than eschatology. Getting to involved will mean I never get around to reading those other books. I was trying to get you to realize what you sounded like. Just discuss my points. DISCUSS. It isn't about right or wrong, but about understanding. My comments are long because I am actually engaged. So every response you have been giving has been a slap to the face. You are frustrated because I don't believe as you do. Well, that's good. I'm not you. You can breathe a sigh of relief.
You are simply wrong. That's all I'll say until you display an open and seeking mind.
You've "known the materials 50 years"? And yet, you are still mistaken in so many things. No wonder your ego can't fathom that you are incorrect.
