Understanding the Prophecy of 70 Weeks

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Daniel 9:23 does not use Dabar to speak of a written decree, or spoken decree, for God or for man. It does use it for word, command, etc. Scripture also uses the word the same for both God and man.

Note up front: KJV doesn't translate dabar H1697 as decree ever. In fact, some of the verses show that decree is a different word.
Hmmm... I'm surprised:

Daniel 9:23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment H1697 came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, H1697 and consider the vision.

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment H1697 to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

I think the question is why did they decide to translate the word differently in Daniel 9:25 in so many translations, next to Daniel 9:23. Perhaps to delineate between God and man? KJV didn't hold back here on doing a proper translation of either verse. So, yes, even Daniel used the word in relation to a human king. In this case it was either Cyrus, or Artaxerxes, if I recall. This is not the same as the last one, and I haven't actually looked into this one. The calculations place the last day on the day of the Triumphal Entry in 35 AD, I believe. That makes sense because it was at that time that the Jews "accepted" Jesus as King, and then unilaterally rejected Him. That causes the Messiah being cut off with nothing after sixty-nine weeks to make sense.

Below are multiple times that the same word refers to an earthly king's "commandment":

Esther 1:12 "But the queen Vashti refused to come at the king's commandment H1697 by his chamberlains: therefore was the king very wroth, and his anger burned in him."

Esther 1:19 "If it please the king, let there go a royal commandment H1697 from him, and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, that it be not altered, That Vashti come no more before king Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal estate unto another that is better than she."

Esther 2:8 "So it came to pass, when the king's commandment H1697 and his decree was heard, and when many maidens were gathered together unto Shushan the palace, to the custody of Hegai, that Esther was brought also unto the king's house, to the custody of Hegai, keeper of the women."

Esther 3:15 "The posts went out, being hastened by the king's commandment, H1697 and the decree was given in Shushan the palace. And the king and Haman sat down to drink; but the city Shushan was perplexed."

Esther 4:3 "And in every province, whithersoever the king's commandment H1697 and his decree came, there was great mourning among the Jews, and fasting, and weeping, and wailing; and many lay in sackcloth and ashes."

Esther 8:14 "So the posts that rode upon mules and camels went out, being hastened and pressed on by the king's commandment. H1697 And the decree was given at Shushan the palace."

Esther 8:17 "And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment H1697 and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them."

Esther 9:1 "Now in the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar, on the thirteenth day of the same, when the king's commandment H1697 and his decree drew near to be put in execution, in the day that the enemies of the Jews hoped to have power over them, (though it was turned to the contrary, that the Jews had rule over them that hated them"

And there you go. Good job. Now think long and hard on what this actually means. This is the secret.

 

[TMSO]

And there you go. Good job. Now think long and hard on what this actually means. This is the secret.

Futurism is correct. Doesn't take much thought... However, we all know Jesus hasn't returned yet, so futurism is correct. And that without bringing up the millennium, which would be a different topic to whether Jesus secojnd coming is future or past.

 

[Mr GLee]

Daniel 9:23 does not use Dabar to speak of a written decree, or spoken decree, for God or for man. It does use it for word, command, etc. Scripture also uses the word the same for both God and man.

Note up front: KJV doesn't translate dabar H1697 as decree ever. In fact, some of the verses show that decree is a different word.
Hmmm... I'm surprised:

Daniel 9:23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment H1697 came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, H1697 and consider the vision.

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment H1697 to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

I think the question is why did they decide to translate the word differently in Daniel 9:25 in so many translations, next to Daniel 9:23. Perhaps to delineate between God and man? KJV didn't hold back here on doing a proper translation of either verse. So, yes, even Daniel used the word in relation to a human king. In this case it was either Cyrus, or Artaxerxes, if I recall. This is not the same as the last one, and I haven't actually looked into this one. The calculations place the last day on the day of the Triumphal Entry in 35 AD, I believe. That makes sense because it was at that time that the Jews "accepted" Jesus as King, and then unilaterally rejected Him. That causes the Messiah being cut off with nothing after sixty-nine weeks to make sense.

Below are multiple times that the same word refers to an earthly king's "commandment":

Esther 1:12 "But the queen Vashti refused to come at the king's commandment H1697 by his chamberlains: therefore was the king very wroth, and his anger burned in him."

Esther 1:19 "If it please the king, let there go a royal commandment H1697 from him, and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, that it be not altered, That Vashti come no more before king Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal estate unto another that is better than she."

Esther 2:8 "So it came to pass, when the king's commandment H1697 and his decree was heard, and when many maidens were gathered together unto Shushan the palace, to the custody of Hegai, that Esther was brought also unto the king's house, to the custody of Hegai, keeper of the women."

Esther 3:15 "The posts went out, being hastened by the king's commandment, H1697 and the decree was given in Shushan the palace. And the king and Haman sat down to drink; but the city Shushan was perplexed."

Esther 4:3 "And in every province, whithersoever the king's commandment H1697 and his decree came, there was great mourning among the Jews, and fasting, and weeping, and wailing; and many lay in sackcloth and ashes."

Esther 8:14 "So the posts that rode upon mules and camels went out, being hastened and pressed on by the king's commandment. H1697 And the decree was given at Shushan the palace."

Esther 8:17 "And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment H1697 and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them."

Esther 9:1 "Now in the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar, on the thirteenth day of the same, when the king's commandment H1697 and his decree drew near to be put in execution, in the day that the enemies of the Jews hoped to have power over them, (though it was turned to the contrary, that the Jews had rule over them that hated them"

Exactly decree as a commandment .

Mighty men of old moved b the Holy Spirit Not a private interpretation

2 Peter 1:19-21King James Version We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:Knowing this first, that no prophecy (decree) of the scripture is of any private interpretation For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

 

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Exactly decree as a commandment .

Mighty men of old moved b the Holy Spirit Not a private interpretation

2 Peter 1:19-21King James Version We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:Knowing this first, that no prophecy (decree) of the scripture is of any private interpretation For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

TMSO showed exactly the proof that I discovered. You can not deny it. IF you know different, show your proof.

 

[Mr GLee]

TMSO showed exactly the proof that I discovered. You can not deny it. IF you know different, show your proof.

Commandment decree. All one in the same. Two working as one

A commandment is an order or charge given us to keep or observe , and statutes are the decrees or requirements describing how to live in obedience to Him.

The first century reformation has come. The vail was rent .There was no Jewish man as King of kings siting in the abomination of desolation (temples made with hands as a will) . Satan no longer had that power to deceive the all nations of the world that God is a Jewish man(. . dying mankind. (Revelation 20:3)

Christ was restored his proper place reigning from heaven .Some call the second coming as if jesus was reincarnated and was used again as a demonstration of the Lamb who was slain during the 6 days the Father did work ..

Some did know Christ that worked in the sons of God . Another fleshly demonstration not possible. Crucifying over and over to public shame as if one demonstration was not enough to represent the lamb slain

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more

 

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Commandment decree. All one in the same. Two working as one

A commandment is an order or charge given us to keep or observe , and statutes are the decrees or requirements describing how to live in obedience to Him.

The first century reformation has come. The vail was rent .There was no Jewish man as King of kings siting in the abomination of desolation (temples made with hands as a will) . Satan no longer had that power to deceive the all nations of the world that God is a Jewish man(. . dying mankind. (Revelation 20:3)

Christ was restored his proper place reigning from heaven .Some call the second coming as if jesus was reincarnated and was used again as a demonstration of the Lamb who was slain during the 6 days the Father did work ..

Some did know Christ that worked in the sons of God . Another fleshly demonstration not possible. Crucifying over and over to public shame as if one demonstration was not enough to represent the lamb slain

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more

The big problem with your opinion is that it doesn't match facts. Check any Hebrew dictionary of biblical usage. I know you are trying very hard to cling to your beliefs. But you see, facts and truth get in the way of unanchored beliefs many times.