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The Parable of the Ten Virgins

Iniquity is deliberate sin and it is by the Mosaic Law that we have knowledge of what iniquity is. The Mosaic Law is God's way (Psalm 119:1-3), the truth (Psalms 119:142), and the life (Deuteronomy 32:46-47), and the way to see and know the Father (Exodus 33:13), and Jesus is God's word made flesh, so he is the embodiment of the way, the truth, and the life, and the way to see and know the Father (John 14:6-7). The way to know God is by delighting in practicing aspects of his character, such as steadfast love, justice, and righteousness in obedience to the Mosaic Law (Jeremiah 9:24), however, someone can still be doing good things in obedience to it while neglecting to practice God's character traits, which is missing the whole goal of the Mosaic Law. For example, in Matthew 23:23, Jesus said that tithing was something that they ought to do be doing while not neglecting weightier matters of the Mosaic Law of justice, mercy, and faithfulness, which is the way to know God, and it was because those in Matthew 7:21-23 were neglecting to practice weightier matters of the law that Jesus said that he would them them to depart from him because he never knew them.
The problem here as far as the context of the message is concerned in Matthew 7:13-27, is that modern Bibles, like the NASB, do not always keep the actual message in His words when translating into the English, but for the most part, the KJV has.

Matthew 7:21-23 KJV VS NASB

The point of discernment to consider is that if these wayward believers were practicing lawlessness, how can they claim to be prophesying in His name, casting out devils in His name, and doing wonderful works in His name by how those things comes about by practicing lawlessness?

But by ignoring that Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father by in worship, prayer, and fellowship BY "broadening" the way in coming to God by approaching the Father by way of the "Trinity" or worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son, thereby not solely honoring the Son for how the Father wishes for us to honor the Father by, then the spirits of the antichrist can "visit" with signs and lying wonders for how and why saved believers are "seduced" and lured away to chasing after them to visit again to receive again by a sign whereby believers lose self control & fall sometimes.

Matthew 7:13-14;24-27 KJV VS NASB

So the heeding of His words that would cause believers to fall as warned in Matthew 7:24-27 is His warning stated in Matthew 7:13-14 in KJV.

So it is understandable why your mindset is on the Mosaic Laws per the use of the term lawlessness rather than iniquity due to the use of your Bible version whereas the actual iniquity cited is ignoring His warning to steer clear of the broad way and stick to the narrow way in coming to God the Father by if they wish to avoid the spirits of the antichrist that brings "miracles" by their visitations which causes some believers to lose self control & "fall".

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Do you believe you are saved or do you believe you are not saved yet?

The reason I had asked is that Matthew 7:21-23 coupled with 1 Corinthians 1:17-21 in the NASB, specifically verse 18, has been applied by a false teaching that believers are not saved yet.

Not sure if you are using solely the NASB and I am not sure you believe in that false teaching even if you were using the NASB, and so that is why I am asking.
 
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father it worked in the Son of man Jesus just as us today . Whosoever does the will of the father is Jesus's brother and sister in the Lord .
Since Jesus Christ's ascension, the Holy Spirit now serves as the Spirit of Christ; that means everything Spirit says which is of the Father, comes from Jesus as all power has been given to Jesus Christ in Heaven and earth.

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.... 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:... 11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.


Antichrist as applied in scripture means "instead of Christ". That is something the real indwelling Holy Spirit would never do in taking believers' eyes off of the Son but the spirits of the antichrist would by their visitations of signs and lying wonders to take the focus off of the Son in worship whereas the real indwelling Holy Spirit would be leading us to testify of the Son to glorify the Son, to honor the Son in worship and thereby honoring the Father which is the will of God for us to do every time in worship, prayer, & fellowship. No other way to honor the Father.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

So there is no honoring the Holy Spirit as if He is another way to honor the Father by when the Holy Spirit in us seeks to testify of the Son to glorify the Son through us and thereby honoring & glorifying the Father in Heaven.
 
The whole will. . . .the power from the father that works in all who does His will. The one will with power to raise the dead.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:35For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
The whole will? That's sounds like 100% ...perfect...(which I know you do)....

So, Mr GLee, considering you do 100% of Gods will...what happens to a person that only does;
99%.......are they saved?
75%.......are they saved?
50%.......are they saved?
25%.......are they saved?
1%.........are they saved?
 
The whole will? That's sounds like 100% ...perfect...(which I know you do)....

So, Mr GLee, considering you do 100% of Gods will...what happens to a person that only does;
99%.......are they saved?
75%.......are they saved?
50%.......are they saved?
25%.......are they saved?
1%.........are they saved?
100% The fullness of grace the whole cost of salvation not an unknown remnant of grace and after or last breath the suffering that falls short of the fullness grace continues limbo purgatory. that would only show false prophet are being used as false apostles.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that (grace) bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.


100% the first time given power from God. The first love we return to if we fall and repent. . . the end from the beginning.

1 Peter1:9-10 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

We look back to that manner of time they looked ahead by the same Spirt of Faith that worked in those yoked with Christ our strength
 
100% The fullness of grace the whole cost of salvation not an unknown remnant of grace and after or last breath the suffering that falls short of the fullness grace continues limbo purgatory. that would only show false prophet are being used as false apostles.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that (grace) bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.


100% the first time given power from God. The first love we return to if we fall and repent. . . the end from the beginning.

1 Peter1:9-10 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

We look back to that manner of time they looked ahead by the same Spirt of Faith that worked in those yoked with Christ our strength
You avoided the question.
 
You avoided the question.
I answered your what I think is foolish question according to it.

God does all the work in savavation 100%. Mr. GLee none

Proverbs 26:4-5 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
 
I answered your what I think is foolish question according to it.

God does all the work in savavation 100%. Mr. GLee none

Proverbs 26:4-5 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
You are still dancing around the question.

Now you think calling me a fool is an excuse not to answer the question.

No man has followed the commandments of Christ 100%...even after they have been saved. Not even YOU!

Your theology is hat you must perform righteous acts to become saved.....I simply asked how righteous do you need to be in order to be saved then once saved remain saved?
 
You are still dancing around the question.

Now you think calling me a fool is an excuse not to answer the question.

No man has followed the commandments of Christ 100%...even after they have been saved. Not even YOU!

Your theology is hat you must perform righteous acts to become saved.....I simply asked how righteous do you need to be in order to be saved then once saved remain saved?

Not by intention to call others fools .Christian do perform foolish things rarely

The commandment is to be perfect "just" in him we are perfected. "Justified 100%"

Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

My theology is that Christ must perform righteous acts in order for us to become saved .
 
Not by intention to call others fools .Christian do perform foolish things rarely

The commandment is to be perfect "just" in him we are perfected. "Justified 100%"

Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

My theology is that Christ must perform righteous acts in order for us to become saved .
"The commandment is to be perfect "just" in him we are perfected. "Justified 100%"".....then the answer is 0% as we do nothing for our salvation......The only commandment towards salvation is to believe. (John 3:16)
 
The problem here as far as the context of the message is concerned in Matthew 7:13-27, is that modern Bibles, like the NASB, do not always keep the actual message in His words when translating into the English, but for the most part, the KJV has.

Matthew 7:21-23 KJV VS NASB

The point of discernment to consider is that if these wayward believers were practicing lawlessness, how can they claim to be prophesying in His name, casting out devils in His name, and doing wonderful works in His name by how those things comes about by practicing lawlessness?
The goal of God's law is to teach us how to know Him through practicing His character traits, however, someone can go through the motions of obey God's law while neglecting to practice His character trait, which is missing the whole goal of the law, which is just as lawless as refusing to submit to it. For example, in Matthew 23:23, Jesus said that tithing was something that they ought to be doing while no neglecting weightier matters of the law of justice, mercy, and faith, and it is through practicing God's character traits that we know him, but which why Jesus will say to depart from him because he never knew them.
But by ignoring that Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father by in worship, prayer, and fellowship BY "broadening" the way in coming to God by approaching the Father by way of the "Trinity" or worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son, thereby not solely honoring the Son for how the Father wishes for us to honor the Father by, then the spirits of the antichrist can "visit" with signs and lying wonders for how and why saved believers are "seduced" and lured away to chasing after them to visit again to receive again by a sign whereby believers lose self control & fall sometimes.
The Son is the exact image of God's character (Hebrews 1:3), which he embodied by setting a sinless example of how to walk in in obedience to God's law, so saying that he is the only way to the Father is the same as saying that us embodying the Father's character traits through following Christ's example is the only way to the Father, which is not broadening the way to the Father. The way to worship the Father is by embodying His character trait, which is the same as the way to worship the Son and the Spirit, so worshiping the Spirit is not doing something different than worshiping the Son or the Father.


Matthew 7:13-14;24-27 KJV VS NASB

So the heeding of His words that would cause believers to fall as warned in Matthew 7:24-27 is His warning stated in Matthew 7:13-14 in KJV.

So it is understandable why your mindset is on the Mosaic Laws per the use of the term lawlessness rather than iniquity due to the use of your Bible version whereas the actual iniquity cited is ignoring His warning to steer clear of the broad way and stick to the narrow way in coming to God the Father by if they wish to avoid the spirits of the antichrist that brings "miracles" by their visitations which causes some believers to lose self control & "fall".
Again, iniquity is intentional lawlessness and the Mosaic Law defines what iniquity/lawlessness is. Saying that iniquity refers to the narrow way that leads to life is not different because practicing God's character traits in obedience to the Mosaic Law is the narrow way that leads to life, which is why there are many verses that describe it as being God's way, such as Deuteronomy 10:12-13, Isaiah 2:2-3, 1 Kings 2:1-3, Joshua 22:5, Psalms 103:7, Psalms 119:1-3, and many others, as well as many verses that say that obedience to it lead to eternal life, such as Deuteronomy 30:16, Deuteronomy 32:46-47, Proverbs 3:18, Proverbs 6:23, Matthew 19:17, Luke 10:25-28, Roman 2:6-7, Roman 6:19-23, Hebrews 5:9, and Revelation 22:14.

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Do you believe you are saved or do you believe you are not saved yet?

The reason I had asked is that Matthew 7:21-23 coupled with 1 Corinthians 1:17-21 in the NASB, specifically verse 18, has been applied by a false teaching that believers are not saved yet.

Not sure if you are using solely the NASB and I am not sure you believe in that false teaching even if you were using the NASB, and so that is why I am asking.
There is a sense in which we have been saved, we are being saved, and we will be saved. In 1 Corinthians 1:18, it refers to those of us who are being saved, though that doesn't mean that it isn't also true that we have been saved or that we will be saved (Matthew 7:21-23). I generally use ESV.
 
"The commandment is to be perfect "just" in him we are perfected. "Justified 100%"".....then the answer is 0% as we do nothing for our salvation......The only commandment towards salvation is to believe. (John 3:16)
Yes, we have no power of our own to be complete.
 
The goal of God's law is to teach us how to know Him through practicing His character traits, however, someone can go through the motions of obey God's law while neglecting to practice His character trait, which is missing the whole goal of the law, which is just as lawless as refusing to submit to it. For example, in Matthew 23:23, Jesus said that tithing was something that they ought to be doing while no neglecting weightier matters of the law of justice, mercy, and faith, and it is through practicing God's character traits that we know him, but which why Jesus will say to depart from him because he never knew them.
The irony is that none of the epistles to the churches teaches the continuance of tithing, but rather teach about God's indescribable gift of providing just what the ministry to run on as well as for providing to meet the immediate needs of the poor of the congregation.

2 Corinthians 9th Chapter testifies that it is none of the church's business of what the believer gives but each one is to give what he wants to give for the Lord loves a cheerful giver. There is no way to be a cheerful giver if one has to tithe.

James 2nd Chapter is about the abuse of the poor and how the church would get out of helping the poor by just issuing the church's faith to the poor about God providing for the poor without leading by example in meeting the immediate need of the poor that were about to perish from the element & starvation. So the church's faith in God to provide for the poor was dead in the eyes of the poor for why the church's faith in God to provide will not "profit" the poor nor "save" the poor.

So it is wrong for a church or a pastor to demand tithing because they are supposed to trust in God to raise up cheerful givers. For a pastor to preach from the pulpit to tithe while he gets a pension and all expenses paid with his salary while the poor do not have any such financial security is a pastor's faith in God to provide that is dead just as the church's faith in God to provide is dead. No sermon coming from that pulpit will profit the poor nor save the poor when they do not see the church's faith in God to provide by tithing when they should be relying on God to provide by raising up cheerful givers.

In any man's family, he has to weight not only his own needs of the immediate family but any widows in dire need of the family. If there be widows that have no family to care for them, guess what? The church is to do it.

1 Timothy 5:3 Honour widows that are widows indeed. 4 But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God. 5 Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day. 6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. 7 And these things give in charge, that they may be blameless. 8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. 9 Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man. 10 Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work. 11 But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry; 12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith. 13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. 14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully. 15 For some are already turned aside after Satan. 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.

So this all weighs in on the decision making of the cheerful giver as he must take care of his own house before considering if he has anything left over that he can be willing to give to God in thanksgiving for in that assembly.
 
The Son is the exact image of God's character (Hebrews 1:3), which he embodied by setting a sinless example of how to walk in in obedience to God's law, so saying that he is the only way to the Father is the same as saying that us embodying the Father's character traits through following Christ's example is the only way to the Father, which is not broadening the way to the Father. The way to worship the Father is by embodying His character trait, which is the same as the way to worship the Son and the Spirit, so worshiping the Spirit is not doing something different than worshiping the Son or the Father.
Then you believe the holy laughter movement, the being drunk in the spirit phenomenon, and the slain in the spirit phenomenon to be of the Lord? Because that is the result for placing emphasis on worship of the Holy Spirit for why the Father permits those strong delusion to occur because Jesus said the Father's will that Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father by per John 14:6 and it is by ONLY honoring the Son is how we honor the Father by. John 5:22-23

Does this mean it will always happen? No, but Jesus warned us to watch and not suffer a thief to break through which is what happens when you stop honoring the Son but honor the Holy Spirit or the "Trinity", thus dishonoring the Son as the only way to honor the Father by & thus wind up dishonoring the Father.

Is not the Holy Spirit leading us to testify of the Son thru us per John 15:26-27, in order to glorify the Son ( John 16:14 ) then how can that not include worship as well as the indwelling holy Spirit will not lead us in any other way in worship in order to glorify God the Father by.

And yet by worshiping the Holy Spirit is how visitations of the spirits of the antichrist comes in that steals the focus away from the Son to chasing after them again to receive after a sensational sign in the flesh.

A brother in India testified of honoring the Holy Spirit that calendar Pentecostal Sunday in his church when all of a sudden, he felt something like liquid nitrogen seeping through his skull and he began speaking an apology to the Holy Spirit against his will for not believing He would do those "dramatic manifestations" that He did in the early church days. That was not the Holy Spirit seeping into him when He has been in him since salvation. Plus God would have a willing apology rather than a coerced one against his will.

But he did not say anything to the discernment that the Lord led me to share with him and that is the point, if you do not believe those movements of the spirits is the Holy Spirit because it is chaos and confusion, which God is not the author of 1 Corinthians 14:32-33, when you keep that practice of iniquity, of worshiping the Holy Spirit, you will have a hard time convincing worshippers that was not the Holy Spirit when confusion comes as the spirits of the antichrist will bring with signs and lying wonders.
Again, iniquity is intentional lawlessness and the Mosaic Law defines what iniquity/lawlessness is. Saying that iniquity refers to the narrow way that leads to life is not different because practicing God's character traits in obedience to the Mosaic Law is the narrow way that leads to life, which is why there are many verses that describe it as being God's way, such as Deuteronomy 10:12-13, Isaiah 2:2-3, 1 Kings 2:1-3, Joshua 22:5, Psalms 103:7, Psalms 119:1-3, and many others, as well as many verses that say that obedience to it lead to eternal life, such as Deuteronomy 30:16, Deuteronomy 32:46-47, Proverbs 3:18, Proverbs 6:23, Matthew 19:17, Luke 10:25-28, Roman 2:6-7, Roman 6:19-23, Hebrews 5:9, and Revelation 22:14.
No signs and lying wonders comes by breaking the Mosaic Laws, but by taking your eyes off of the Bridegroom in worship to the Holy Spirit, thus allowing signs and lying wonders and the confusion it brings with them as believers lose self control & fall backwards and stuff.
There is a sense in which we have been saved, we are being saved, and we will be saved. In 1 Corinthians 1:18, it refers to those of us who are being saved, though that doesn't mean that it isn't also true that we have been saved or that we will be saved (Matthew 7:21-23). I generally use ESV.
We are saved, but not every one will be found abiding in Him when the Bridegroom comes, but though they be denied by Him and left behind for being in unrepentant iniquity, they are still saved but missed out on the Marriage Supper in Heaven as the wrath of God falls on the children of disobedience.
 
Will you ever get to the point??? Or continue to hide in the shadows???
get to the point??? Or continue to hide in the shadows???
Point? Hiding what ? Shadow of what?
 
The Parable of the ten virgins as the five of that kingdom of Heaven but they missed out on the wedding reception with the Bridegroom because they were in iniquity which is seeking to be filled with extra oil while the prudent has been filled since salvation for why they were ready to go.

Those who use tongues for private use and/or get involved in signs and wonders by the visitations of the "Holy Spirit" when it is really the spirits of the antichrist, should go to Jesus Christ now at that throne of grace for help to depart from those spirits by shunning tongues for private use and pray normally, and no longer chase after any phenomenon but rest in Jesus Christ as always filled with the Spirit since salvation at the calling of the gospel when you had first believed.

Don't be out to the "market" still, getting filled with the "spirit" or you will miss out in being ready to be received by the Bridegroom.
 
The Parable of the ten virgins as the five of that kingdom of Heaven but they missed out on the wedding reception with the Bridegroom because they were in iniquity which is seeking to be filled with extra oil while the prudent has been filled since salvation for why they were ready to go.

Those who use tongues for private use and/or get involved in signs and wonders by the visitations of the "Holy Spirit" when it is really the spirits of the antichrist, should go to Jesus Christ now at that throne of grace for help to depart from those spirits by shunning tongues for private use and pray normally, and no longer chase after any phenomenon but rest in Jesus Christ as always filled with the Spirit since salvation at the calling of the gospel when you had first believed.

Don't be out to the "market" still, getting filled with the "spirit" or you will miss out in being ready to be received by the Bridegroom.
I would agree .The speaking is nothing but baby noises by the misled. Falling back as slain in the spirit group work as their growing need to mock the word of God .Continually being filled never coming to the fullness of salvation , It is unbelivering Jew making a mockery at the judgment of God living he used the sign of Daniel a sign against them .

Dan is used to represent the Spirit of judgement showing the effect of a false apostles, antichrists bringing false prophecy Therefore falling backward off his high horse and breaking neck. Breaking neck used through the bile to represent judgement

Genesis 49:16-17King James Version16 Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.

The foundational law spoken of in 1 Corinthian 14.

Isaiah 28:9-13 The people say, “Who does he think he is trying to teach and explain his message to? Does he think we are babies who were at their mother’s breast only a very short time ago? He speaks to us as though we were babies:

“Saw lasaw saw lasaw
Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw
Ze’er sham ze’er sham.”[b]

So God will use this strange way of talking, and he will use other languages to speak to these people. In the past he spoke to them and said, “Here is a resting place. Let those who are tired come and rest. This is the place of peace.”But they would not listen to him. So the Lord’s words will be senseless sounds to them:

“Saw lasaw saw lasaw.
Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw.
Ze’er sham ze’er sham.”

When the people try to walk, they will fall backwards. They will be defeated, trapped, and captured.
 
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It's commonly assumed the oil in the parable relates to the Holy Spirit, but had the
five girls returned with the Holy Spirit, the host would've readily allowed them
entrance because in the New Testament the Spirit is depicted as both an owner's
identification and a token of one's acceptance. (2Cor 1:21-22, Eph 1:13-14, & Eph 4:30)
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The whole will? That's sounds like 100% ...perfect...(which I know you do)....

So, Mr GLee, considering you do 100% of Gods will...what happens to a person that only does;
99%.......are they saved?
75%.......are they saved?
50%.......are they saved?
25%.......are they saved?
1%.........are they saved?
We are not saved by the dying will of mankind . Only jesus the Son of man did the will of the Father 100%
 
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