Sons of God....who are they?

[Tambora]

Genesis 6: It should be noted that this is the first reference to “sons of God” in the Bible. This exact phrase is found only three other times in Hebrew in Job, where it is a reference to angels.

Correct.
This Hebrew term used only refers to angels.

We must ask, is it proper to apply the definition found in a later book of a different genre to this very first [and ONLY] reference in Genesis?

Of course we can use other scriptures to interpret scriptures.
It would be sloppy not to.

The masterful Old Testament scholar G. Ch. Aalders (BSC*)re: 'angels' translation in Gen. 6, states, “This view is, in our judgment, untenable….it [sons of God] refers exclusively [here in Genesis Six] to the world of human beings.”​

Prof. Aalders cites Hosea 1:10 which is a reference to God’s chosen people as “sons of the living God.” ​

The Hebrew term in Hosea 1 is not the same term used in Genesis 6.

One needs to keep in mind that there are two Hebrew terms (giants, sons of God) used in Genesis 6:4 that tell us clues as to what is being spoken of, and we can compare those two terms to how they are used in other scriptures.

Genesis 6:4 KJV​

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.​

The only other Hebrew term for giants is only here:

Numbers 13:33 KJV​

And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.​

 

[Michael Snow]

Correct.
This Hebrew term used only refers to angels.



Of course we can use other scriptures to interpret scriptures.
It would be sloppy not to.


The Hebrew term in Hosea 1 is not the same term used in Genesis 6.

One needs to keep in mind that there are two Hebrew terms (giants, sons of God) used in Genesis 6:4 that tell us clues as to what is being spoken of, and we can compare those two terms to how they are used in other scriptures.

Genesis 6:4 KJV​

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.​

The only other Hebrew term for giants is only here:

Numbers 13:33 KJV​

And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.​

Sloppy reasoning, out of context. E.g. "The Hebrew term in Hosea 1 is not the same term used in Genesis 6." I clearly noted that, that the only other use of the same EXACT term in all of the OT is in JOB. Hosea 1 is not the same but very close. Wooden arguments against that are good for firewood.

Too many X'ns love idle speculation. Sells books for a certain segment. The more superstition the better the sales.

 

[Tambora]

Sloppy reasoning, out of context. E.g. "The Hebrew term in Hosea 1 is not the same term used in Genesis 6." I clearly noted that, that the only other use of the same EXACT term in all of the OT is in JOB. Hosea 1 is not the same but very close. Wooden arguments against that are good for firewood.

Too many X'ns love idle speculation. Sells books for a certain segment. The more superstition the better the sales.

Bull.
It's no more superstition than staffs turning into snakes, talking donkey, water splitting, non-consumed burning bush, water turning to blood, sun standing still, men unharmed in a burning furnace, etc. etc. etc.
Taking the supernatural element out of scripture leaves you with doubts of it's credibility and tries to chalk it up to just another mythological fantasy.

 

[Mr GLee]

Of course we can use other scriptures to interpret scriptures.
It would be sloppy not to.

Would other scriptures support the idea of sons of God are a invisible creation not spoken of in the bible?

They are described as the same became mighty men (not angels) which were of old, men of renown.

The word renown giants of faith led by the Spirit of Christ as sons of God . Like David. The word renown (the famous ones) is used in that ways 9 times in the old testament.

It is a neutral word it can support men like David or the renown famous one. Or the famous one other camp. . Goliath . The enemy of God's renown giants of faith .

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men,(mankind) and they bare children to them, (unevenly yoked) the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Numbers 16:2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:

Ezekiel 39:13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord God.

Daniel 9:15 And now, O Lord our God, that hast brought thy people forth out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand, and hast gotten thee renown, as at this day; we have sinned, we have done wickedly.

The Hebrew term in Hosea 1 is not the same term used in Genesis 6.

One needs to keep in mind that there are two Hebrew terms (giants, sons of God) used in Genesis 6:4 that tell us clues as to what is being spoken of, and we can compare those two terms to how they are used in other scriptures.

Sons of God in Hosea are the same as any other mention of sons of God born again believers.

Why the idea of angels (legion) a creation not spoken of?

 

[Biblelesson]

I know Marvel comics has a character called "Watchers." Are you sure you're not bringing outside philosophy into our biblical doctrine?

Angels are spirit beings and have no body. Like wind they are immaterial. You can't see them. And they don't have creative attributes.
To make angels to marry human women and have babies is outside reasonable realm UNLESS Scripture clearly says they did but Scripture hasn't said this. Making angels have babies with human women is impossible and only live in the fantasies of those who don't know God ("you do err not knowing the power of God nor the Scriptures") and those who have no reverence or respect for God's Word.

Amen!

 

[Mr GLee]

This Hebrew term used only refers to angels.

The Hebrew word Malak is messengers, not angel a fake word.

Messengers sent by Christ yoked with Christ . How beautiful are their feet shod with the gospel.

No such thing imaginary creation called angels. Christ in us. . not legion of angels. One manner our Father in heavens .

A invisible representative is needed to continue the lie.

Lying is not a alternative when he stops revealing.

The same foundation of the idea of patron saints 3500 and rising workers with familiar spirit gods on the rise

1 Samuel 28: 6 And when Saul enquired of the Lord, the Lord answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets.

 

[Tambora]

The Hebrew word Malak is messengers, not angel a fake word.

Messengers sent by Christ yoked with Christ . How beautiful are their feet shod with the gospel.

No such thing imaginary creation called angels. Christ in us. . not legion of angels. One manner our Father in heavens .

A invisible representative is needed to continue the lie.

Lying is not a alternative when he stops revealing.

The same foundation of the idea of patron saints 3500 and rising workers with familiar spirit gods on the rise

1 Samuel 28: 6 And when Saul enquired of the Lord, the Lord answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets.

Angel is not a fake word.

 

[Mr GLee]

Angel is not a fake word.

It should be easy to prove it is not??

Greek Angelos = sent messenger .How beautiful are the feet of the apostles shod with the gospel .

Both the word angel and the use of the world apostle are fake working used together to deceive mankind of believing in creation not seen not heard of . His and hers gods as worker with a familiar spirit

Today called patron saints 3,513 and adding new recruits daily.

 

[Tambora]

It should be easy to prove it is not??

Because you do not understand the varying ways the ancients used the term doesn't make it a fake word.
God used both men and spirit beings to relay His messages.

 

[Mr GLee]

Because you do not understand the varying ways the ancients used the term doesn't make it a fake word.
God used both men and spirit beings to relay His messages.

Words have ancient meaning as a foundation .

David said if they destroy the foundations of the doctrines of Christ what could the believer do with those who rob the identity of a word.

Show the creation of spirit being other than the believers as gods clothed with flesh and blood the temporal seen.

Where are the verse that support using ones imagination ?