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Sign of presdestination!

That is the only test for any claim to being the word of God.

If it is authorized by Scripture, the question is mute.
where does scripture authorize women to receive holy communion?

or depict a woman receiving holy communuon?

thks
 
That is the only test for any claim to being the word of God.

If it is authorized by Scripture, the question is mute.
the church decree's what is and what does not constitute scripture

the canon was decided at the council of rome 381-2 by the bishops in the authority of Christ and approved by the pope!

*** Ephesians 3:10
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

“BY THE CHURCH”!

1 tim 3:15

15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

THE CHURCH IS THE PILLAR OF TRUTH!

NOT SCRIPTURE ALONE!
The bible alone was an invention of the heretic Wycliffe!

Not a doctrine of Christ or His apostolic church!

Christ acts in His church, councils, decrees, dogma’s, creeds!
Matt 28:28 acts 1:8

Christ and His church are one inseparable unity! Acts 9:4 Jn 15:5 acts 1:8 eph 5:24 eph 5:32 Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13 Jn 10:16 Lk 10:16 Jn 13:20

the apostolic church verified scripture not the other way around!

thks
 
Are you saying we have an authoritative word of God today apart from Scripture?

If that "authoritative" word is not in agreement with Scripture, it is not from God.
If it is in agreement with Scripture, it is simply a repeat of what we already have and adds nothing to Scripture.
scripture is part of the divine tradition!
part of the divine revelation!
part of the word of God!

they cannot be limited to scripture!
Christ commanded His church to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! matt 28:19

Christ gives His authority to His church. matt 28:17-19

and Christ is with His church m. matt 28:20

His light matt 5:14
His truth Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13 1 Tim 3:15

the church existed 30 plus years before scripture (NT) was written and the church wrote the (NT) by the inspiration of the Spirit

thks
 
the church decree's what is and what does not constitute scripture

the canon was decided at the council of rome 381-2 by the bishops in the authority of Christ and approved by the pope!

*** Ephesians 3:10
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

“BY THE CHURCH”!

1 tim 3:15

15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

THE CHURCH IS THE PILLAR OF TRUTH!

NOT SCRIPTURE ALONE!
The bible alone was an invention of the heretic Wycliffe!

Not a doctrine of Christ or His apostolic church!

Christ acts in His church, councils, decrees, dogma’s, creeds!
Matt 28:28 acts 1:8

Christ and His church are one inseparable unity! Acts 9:4 Jn 15:5 acts 1:8 eph 5:24 eph 5:32 Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13 Jn 10:16 Lk 10:16 Jn 13:20

the apostolic church verified scripture not the other way around!

thks


the church decree's what is and what does not constitute scripture

THE CHURCH IS THE PILLAR OF TRUTH!

No regenerated person would say these things.

You better examine yourself friend.

You are defending a satanic lie.
 
Jesus said: "let your yes be yes, and your no be no"!

say what you mean, & mean what you say!

Alone means alone!

absolute with nothing added

sola scriptura is scripture alone!

if you don't believe it don't say it!

thks
Don, your argument ignores the doctrine behind the term, Sola Scriptura. You are, at best, arguing terminology, and not against the doctrine itself. The conversation has grown inane.
 
No regenerated person would say these things.

You better examine yourself friend.

You are defending a satanic lie.
then who does decide the content of sacred scripture?

who decides the list of the ten commandments?

thks
 
Don, your argument ignores the doctrine behind the term, Sola Scriptura. You are, at best, arguing terminology, and not against the doctrine itself. The conversation has grown inane.
if you Don't believe it, why should I?
 
if you Don't believe it, why should I?
Don't belive what?
How a doctrine was named?
I think the doctrine the Trinity should be the "Triune Entity of God"
Regardless of the name/term of the doctrine, I agree with its teaching.
 
if you Don't believe it, why should I?
If I don't believe what? I do believe the Doctrine we refer to by the term, "Sola Scriptura".

What's the problem? Only that you want to dispute the appropriateness of the term?

You can't defeat the doctrine by railing against the term.
 
Don't belive what?
How a doctrine was named?
I think the doctrine the Trinity should be the "Triune Entity of God"
Regardless of the name/term of the doctrine, I agree with its teaching.
the word "alone"!!!

as in "faith alone" nothing added

"scripture alone" nothing added

etc
 
If I don't believe what? I do believe the Doctrine we refer to by the term, "Sola Scriptura".

What's the problem? Only that you want to dispute the appropriateness of the term?

You can't defeat the doctrine by railing against the term.
the word "alone"!!!

as in "faith alone" nothing added

"scripture alone" nothing added

etc

The Reformation V.s. the Gospel!
or The Reformation V.s. scripture!

Reformation: Faith alone! nothing added!

The Gospel or scripture: Three things are eternal, faith, hope, & charity! 1 cor 13:13
 
the word "alone"!!!

as in "faith alone" nothing added

"scripture alone" nothing added

etc

The Reformation V.s. the Gospel!
or The Reformation V.s. scripture!

Reformation: Faith alone! nothing added!

The Gospel or scripture: Three things are eternal, faith, hope, & charity! 1 cor 13:13
They are 2-word Latin phrases in the ablative tense in context with the other 3 solas of the Reformation.

Can you be corrected?
 
then delete the word "alone"!
Delete the word "alone" from what?

Should we remove the word "alone" from these writings?




“Whosoever will candidly consider each particular, will recognize the greatness of the gifts which were given by him. For from him have sprung the priests and all the Levites who minister at the altar of God. From him also [was descended] our Lord Jesus Christ according to the flesh. From him [arose] kings, princes, and rulers of the race of Judah. Nor are his other tribes in small glory, inasmuch as God had promised, ‘Thy seed shall be as the stars of heaven.’ All these, therefore, were highly honored, and made great, not for their own sake, or for their own works, or for the righteousness which they wrought, but through the operation of His will. And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works we have wrought in holiness of heart, but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.”
- Clement, First Epistle to the Corinthians, Ch. 32 (AD 99)

“Every mystery which is enacted by our Lord Jesus Christ asks  only for faith. The mystery was enacted at that time for our sake and aimed at our resurrection and liberation, should we have faith in the mystery of Christ and in Christ.”
- Marius Victorinus, Epistle to the Galatians,1.3.7 (AD 356)


“Let him who boasts boast in the Lord, that Christ has been made by God for us in righteousness, wisdom, justification, redemption. This is perfect and pure boasting in God, when one is not proud on account of his own righteousness but knows that he is indeed unworthy of the true righteousness and is (or has been) justified solely by faith in Christ.”
- Basil of Caesarea, Homilia XX, Homilia De Humilitate (AD 379)

“God has decreed that a person who believes in Christ can be saved without works. By faith alone he receives the forgiveness of sins.”
- Ambrosiaster, on 1 Cor 1:14b (AD 384)

They are justified freely because they have not done anything nor given anything in return, but by faith alone they have been made holy by the gift of God.”
- Ambrosiaster, on Rom. 3:24 (AD 384)

“The patriarch Abraham himself before receiving circumcision had been declared righteous on the score of faith alone; before circumcision, the text says, Abraham believed God, and credit for it brought him to righteousness.”
- Chrysostom, Homilies on Genesis, 27.7 (AD 407)

“See he calls the faith also a law delighting to keep to the names, and so allay the seeming novelty. But what is the ‘law of faith’? It is, being saved by grace. Here he shows God’s power, in that He has not only saved, but has even justified, and led them to boasting, and this too without needing works, but looking for faith only.”
- Chrysostom, Homilies on the Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Romans, Homily 7, vs. 27 (AD 407)

For a person who had no works, to be justified by faith, was nothing unlikely.  But for a person richly adorned with good deeds, not to be made just from hence, but from faith, this is the thing to cause wonder, and to set the power of faith in a strong light.”
- Chrysostom, Homilies on the Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Romans, Homily 8, Rom. 4:1-2 (AD 407)

“God justifies by faith alone” (“Deus ex sola fide justificat”)
- Jerome, Epestolam Ad Romanos, Caput X, v.3 (AD 420)

“What Paul meant was that no one obtains the gift of justification on the basis of merits derived from works performed beforehand, but the gift of justification comes only from faith.”
- Bede, Cited from the Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture (ed. Gerald Bray), NT, vol. 11, p. 31.(AD 735)

"But in addition that you might believe also this, that sins are given to you individually, this is the testimony, which the Holy Spirit bestows in your heart, saying, Your sins are forgiven by you. For the Apostle thinks thus, that man is gratuitously justified through faith."
- Bernard of Clairvaux, First Sermon on the Annunciation (AD 1153)

“Therefore the hope of justification is not found in them [the moral and ceremonial requirements of the law], but in faith alone.”
- Thomas Aquinas, Expositio in Ep. I ad Timotheum cap. 1, lect. 3 (AD 1274)
 
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where is the call of Noah, Abraham, or Moses, authorized by scripture?

or John t baptist Lk 3:2?
God's direct authoritative revelation to the assembly ended with the NT.

Now man must consult God's word written for God's word.
 
scripture is part of the divine tradition!
part of the divine revelation!
part of the word of God!
they cannot be limited to scripture!
Christ commanded His church to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! matt 28:19
Christ gives His authority to His church. matt 28:17-19
and Christ is with His church m. matt 28:20

His light matt 5:14
His truth Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13 1 Tim 3:15

the church existed 30 plus years before scripture (NT) was written and the church wrote the (NT) by the inspiration of the Spirit

thks
And the whole body of Christ is the church.
 
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