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Ad hominem noted. I'm ignorant so you're correct. Got it.
Argumentum ad nauseam
More ad hominem
Some of that ad hominem that you so object to from others?
You contradict yourself when you say "I do not believe we play any part of our salvation, other than---" You say you can do the hearing, believing and repenting apart from God. And not only that, that you must do so and then and only then will he condescend to rebirth you into his kingdom. That is not only synergism, it is also works done by you as the first cause of salvation and not grace. The person and work of Jesus wouldn't be actually accomplishing anything but only facilitating it.
When you read that and highlighted what you though appropriate as support for your very own doctrine, did you miss the most important part? Or did you ignore it on purpose, pushing it into the background by your red letters? everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.
Do you know whom the Lord our God calls to Himself? Do you know how the Lord our God calls those to Himself? Could you post the scriptures to support your answers?
Tu Quoque
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Why should I? What difference would it make? Given your reply #217 to me, you will just reject or deny whatever I say.
No you don't
No you don't
But you didn't
Well said, that's the first time I have heard it put that way.
Nehemiah 8:1-8~"And all the people gathered themselves together as one man into the street that was before the water gate; and they spake unto Ezra the scribe to bring the book of the law of Moses, which the LORD had commanded to Israel. And Ezra the priest brought the law before the congregation both of men and women, and all that could hear with understanding, upon the first day of the seventh month. And he read therein before the street that was before the water gate from the morning until midday, before the men and the women, and those that could understand; and the ears of all the people were attentive unto the book of the law. And Ezra the scribe stood upon a pulpit of wood, which they had made for the purpose; and beside him stood Mattithiah, and Shema, and Anaiah, and Urijah, and Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, on his right hand; and on his left hand, Pedaiah, and Mishael, and Malchiah, and Hashum, and Hashbadana, Zechariah, and Meshullam. And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the peopleand when he opened it, all the people stood up: And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground. Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place. So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.
I'll work on this. Sorry.
I don't know who they are, but I know they are referred to as the elect and the called and the chosen.
He sends the Holy Spirit to give them a new birth into the Son. He opens their ears to hear the voice of the shepherd, to understand, and gives them faith.
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So for some He opens their ears to hear the voice of the shepherd, to understand, and gives them faith but doesn't necessarily choose them. That is an interesting bit of theology. How does that work, exactly? What happens to those with faith, those who believe in God, that are not chosen?
What difference would answering the questions asked make?
Red herring. I haven't used any "tactic," and this is demonstrably provable. I just answer the questions asked, and I did so immediately, directly, and succinctly...... as every poster should if the desire is to have an honest conversation with parity that moves the discussion forward. After four or five exchanges I'm still waiting on answers to questions first asked back in Post #217. By any objective measure my supposed "tactic" is much more effective than the avoidance and fallacy contained in the last several posts I've received. I defy you to find an occasion where it took me that long to answer ANY question I've ever been asked.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, I do.
No one was asked to post the verses. All that was asked was could they be posted. The answer to that question is, yes, I could post verses supporting my claim to know how the Lord our God calls those to Himself. When treated with multiple avoidant posts, I do not presume more than was asked for is wanted. I answered the question asked and it is completely disingenuous to imply I didn't. If posting the verses was wanted, then an additional request should have been posted! That lapse is not on me.
I have my moments
.The entire book of Hebrews proves otherwise. The Levitical priesthood was replaced with a more superior order, the priests in the order of Melchizedek. Furthermore, God never wanted the priesthood divided apart from civil leadership. We see that first in Melchizedek, the man who was both priest and king. We see that in God's request Moses go and be both the religious and civil leader of God's people and it is only because Moses balked that the two were divided. God reunified the roles in the Judges. All of it was prophetic messianically speaking. Jesus is both Priest and King. We, the converts to Christ are royal priests in the Order of Mel, not Levitical priests who are not kings of the nation.
There were ten other passages of Scripture that I used to support what you asked me to support with Scripture. Why do you only bring up one of them and then not actually respond to it but begin arguing about it by asking me some more questions. Do you not see what everyone else sees when you constantly do this? It is evidence that you cannot dispute what is presented to you at all.
Baptism is the occasion, the point in the time of the life of the repentant believer when he is regenerated. So no, baptism does not occur prior to regeneration. It is the instant when regeneration occurs.
