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Prove the Practice of Worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son

The poster does not believe in the divinity of Christ, as in Jehovah Witness.
Also with the poster Runningman.
The Divinity of Christ is absolute.
Christ said "I and My Father are One.
How you came to the conclusion that I believed otherwise is a puzzle to me.

If Christ is an angel, then equal to Satan
If Christ is a prophet then equal to Daniel

Christ is equal to God because He was God.
That would mean that three coequal, coeternal, consubstantial divine persons should be "adored and glorified."

When I said, the Spirit is not separate or different than God, I mean Consubstantial.
 
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The Divinity of Christ is absolute.
Christ said "I and My Father are One.
How you came to the conclusion that I believed otherwise is a puzzle to me.

If Christ is an angel, then equal to Satan
If Christ is a prophet then equal to Daniel

Christ is equal to God because He was God.
That would mean that three coequal, coeternal, consubstantial divine persons should be "adored and glorified."

When I said, the Spirit is not separate or different than God, I mean Consubstantial.
You do realize that I am not the poster who denies the divinity of Jesus, right?
 
You do realize that I am not the poster who denies the divinity of Jesus, right?
You said that I was the poster who denied the Divinity of Jesus.
You realize I do not deny the Divinity of Jesus.
If, in fact, you believe I do then state your case as to my error.
 
You said that I was the poster who denied the Divinity of Jesus.
You realize I do not deny the Divinity of Jesus.
If, in fact, you believe I do then state your case as to my error.
No, it is neither of us, it relates back to the poster to whom you were responding (Post #425).
 
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No, it is neither of us, it relates back to the poster to whom you were responding (Post #425).
I realized that after I flew up in the boughs :)
Mea Culpa
A good thing came of this misunderstanding, prompting me to defend my position. I had to do research and re-read Romans 8 very carefully.
I don't know anything about Jehovah Witness so I will make this generic.
Premise
If Christ is an Angel, then Christ is equal to Satan Or Satan is equal to Christ
And then god anointed the good angel to do battle with the bad angel.
That is dualism. The light and the dark
It is also Gnostic because god is then beyond, merely the coach and cheerleader, while the forces of good and evil battle on the plains of earth.
To say that there is god, two angels and a spirit, each one sovereign with powers, equal and separate, running around trying to or actually altering and controlling the direction of God's creation, is not a theology I can ascribe to.
I will stick to the Trinity and Christ as Lord and Redeemer. If the contest is between Christ and devil, No Contest.
 
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I'm sorry Jesus prior to the Incarnation was not a created angel. Scripture says just the opposite in Colossians 1:15-18, Hebrews 1:1-14. He is above the angels and created them. Angels do not worship angels , they worship God. And angels worship the Son who created them and obey Him.
Psalm 45:7 speaking about Jesus--He has a God-partners= angels. Heb 1:4 So he has become( means he was equal prior) better than the angels to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs.
Daniel 7:13-15--One like the son of man( a created being) was appointed to a kingship.
 
I beg to differ as do all the Greek Experts/Theologians. You are equivocating as its the NWT that is false and there were no Hebrew or Greek grammarians/linguistic experts translating the NWT.

In regards to the JW's poor translation known as the New World Translation (NWT) keep in mind the translation committee for the NWT was made up of individuals unqualified to do translations. Here is the list with their backgrounds included:

Frederick W. Franz: Head of the translation committee and chief "translator." Took liberal arts sequence at University of Cincinnati; 21 semester hours of classical Greek, some Latin. Partially completed a two-hour survey course in Biblical Greek in junior year; course titled "The New Testament--A course in grammar and translation." Left in spring of 1914 before completing junior year. Self-taught in Spanish, biblical Hebrew and Aramaic. Entered Brooklyn headquarters facility of Watchtower Society in 1920. Probable ghost writer for J. F. Rutherford (2nd president of WTS) from late 1920s through 1942. Vice president of WTS from 1942 to 1977, president from 1977 until death in 1992 at age 99.

Franz writes in his autobiography: "What a blessing it was to study Bible Greek under Professor Arthur Kensella! Under Dr. Joseph Harry, an author of some Greek works, I also studied the classical Greek. I knew that if I wanted to become a Presbyterian clergyman, I had to have a command of Bible Greek. So I furiously applied myself and got passing grades" (The Watchtower, May 1, 1987, p. 24). Franz gives the impression that the bulk of his Greek studies were "Bible Greek" under "Professor Kensella" and that classical Greek was secondary under "Dr. Joseph Harry." The opposite is true. As mentioned above, Franz only took one 2-hour credit class of "Bible Greek" but 21 hours of classical Greek. According to the course catalog of 1911, Arthur Kensella was not a professor of Greek, as Franz wrote, but an "instructor in Greek." Kensella did not have a Ph.D. and he therefore taught entry-level courses.

Nathan H. Knorr
No training in biblical languages. Entered Brooklyn headquarters in 1923; 3rd president of WTS from 1942 to 1977. Died 1977 at age 72.

Milton G. Henschel
No training in biblical languages. Private secretary and traveling companion to N. H. Knorr from late 1940s until early 1970s. 4th president of WTS from 1992 to 2000. Died 2003 at age 82.

Albert D. Schroeder
No training in biblical languages. Took 3 years of mechanical engineering, unspecified language courses in college, dropped out in 1932 and soon entered Brooklyn headquarters. Registrar of "GileadSchool" from 1942 to 1959. Died 2006 at age 95.

Karl Klein
No training in biblical languages. Entered Brooklyn headquarters in 1925; member of Writing Dept. since 1950. Died 2001 at age 96.

George D. Gangas
No training in biblical languages. Greek-speaking Turkish national, entered Brooklyn headquarters in 1928 as a Greek translator from English to modern Greek publications. Died 1994 at age 98.

Franz was the only man capable of doing translation work. Gangas was a native Greek speaker, knew little of Koine Greek, and apparently helped out with a variety of non-translation tasks including reviewing the English grammar for continuity of expression. From all information published about him personally, one readily concludes that Knorr was the business administrator for the Translation Committee. Henschel might have been on it to take care of legal/secretarial matters. Schroeder and Klein did the copious footnotes (which included textual sources) and cross references and marginal notes, which in the original six volumes of the NWT were more extensive than in the 1984 edition.
[Source: Freeminds and various others]
God wrote his bible through Holy spirit directing righteous men. God corrected his bible the same way. God knows Hebrew and Greek better than any imperfect mortal. All who love and respect Gods will use translation that has put his name back where he willed it to be. Where he willed it to be because he wants it there. The wicked removed it, the ones lacking love and respect for Gods will keep it out.
 
God wrote his bible through Holy spirit directing righteous men. God corrected his bible the same way. God knows Hebrew and Greek better than any imperfect mortal. All who love and respect Gods will use translation that has put his name back where he willed it to be. Where he willed it to be because he wants it there. The wicked removed it, the ones lacking love and respect for Gods will keep it out.
The wicked ( using your word ) added to scripture and took away from scripture ( forbidden and eternal damnation from God for such actions ) and created their own translation which is not the word of God known as the new world translation.
 
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The wicked ( using your word ) added snd took away from scripture and created their own translation which is not the word of God known as the new world translation.
I know some people are liking the LSB.
 
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I have not used it have you ? I still like the NASB
No, I have not used it. Some on our church use it and like it though.

I really don't want to switch to another version. I use the NASB, ESV more than anything else.
 
No, I have not used it. Some on our church use it and like it though.

I really don't want to switch to another version. I use the NASB, ESV more than anything else.
Those are my 2 favorite translations and I like to use the original NIV as a back up
 
The wicked ( using your word ) added to scripture and took away from scripture ( forbidden and eternal damnation from God for such actions ) and created their own translation which is not the word of God known as the new world translation.
You will find out it was Catholicism who added errors to fit false council teachings. The NWT corrected them.
 
Falls somewhat short of a Biblical demonstration of your assertion.
God told-YOU- to make sure of all things. Not for me to make sure of them for you. I made sure of them for me as God commanded. Obviously sharing them doesn't prove them. One must seek truth for themselves.
 
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What do you all think of the line in Jn 16 that 'the Spirit will not speak of his own, but will glorify me'?
 
It means that the Holy Spirit lifts up the Son of God...

Indeed, and does not call for attention to himself. I question some modern songs on this. One of them writes, 'Holy Spirit, you are welcome here.' Gosh, I didn't know there was any issue about that.
 
1 Kings 8:38-39
whatever prayer...is made...then hear in heaven...for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men. (NASB)

Since the Father (Jeremiah 17:10), the Son (Revelation 2:23), and the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:10) fully know the hearts of all, then all three Persons of the Trinity are the proper recipient of prayer.


Notice the word alone - this is also proof that no other created being is to be prayed to (Mary, and/or other 'saints').
The reference you used 1 Corinthians 2:10 does not testify to the Holy Spirit knowing the hearts of all to be the recipient of prayer, but rather how the Holy Spirit searches the deep things of God.

1 Corinthians 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

What you should have listed in comparing the NASB with the KJV is;

Romans 8:26-27
NASB 26 Now in the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for (A)we do not know what to pray for as we should, but (B)the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with [a]groanings too deep for words; 27 and (C)He who searches the hearts knows what (D)the mind of the Spirit is, because He (E)intercedes for the [b]saints according to the will of God.

KJV 26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

My comment is the NASB implies the Holy Spirit making intercessions directly from Himself with groanings too deep for words; hence gibberish nonsense is applied to this meaning for why those that err, use tongues for private use, but the KJV leaves no room for such misapplication because the Holy Spirit cannot even utter His own groanings when making His intercessions "indirectly" by Christ Jesus that searches our hearts as He is the One that knows the mind of the Spirit for how the Spirit's silent intercessions is given to the father because Christ Jesus is the only Mediator between God and men to give all intercessions to the Father so to answer prayers per the will of the Father.

That is why you will not find one example in scripture of praying to the Holy Spirit, or even to the "Trinity" but to the Father in Jesus's name or to the Son at that throne of grace.

Confirmation is found here in your quote from my answer to you in that other thread.

John 14:14
NASB
: If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
KJV: If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
My comment: Since only God is the proper recipient of prayer[1] demonstrates the Lord Jesus is God.
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

This point of truth is important as Jesus is the One that answers the prayers so that the Father may be glorified in the Son for answers to prayers. That means the Holy Spirit does not answer the prayers since all that the Holy Spirit does as the Spirit of Christ is to give all the credit & glory to Jesus Christ as Jesus Christ is that Lord and the Head of every believer and the body of Christ.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
 
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