God is not a man .What are you going to move on to do?A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
The wisdom of Christ says it's time for me to move on.
God is not a man .What are you going to move on to do?A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
The wisdom of Christ says it's time for me to move on.
When did I say “worship”?Hey, you want to worship her womb, go right ahead. Man has worshipped all sorts of created things, so why not a womb?
Some fornicators, adulterers, and whoremongerers worship wombs of women.
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever.
Doesn't bother me. I only rebuke anything taught for doctrine of Christ, that is not confirmed by Scripture of Christ's prophets and apostles.
I also explain it in detail. And as here, not many false teachers even acknowledge the details explained.
When did I say “worship”?
Worship requires intent!
Scripture says it is sacred; holy; consecrated to God alone!
Thks
Idols are worshipped. Whether it's the sacred womb of Mary, or the sacred fire of Vesta or the sacred cow of India.When did I say “worship”?
Worship requires intent!
Scripture says it is sacred; holy; consecrated to God alone!
Thks
There is a lot of false teaching on this subject of Original sin. As scripture says, Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 1 John 4:1.
When I see false teaching I like to bring it up for discussion and expose it for the false teaching it is.
I have seen some people use Greek to try and prove their theory when they know none or very little Greek. I also have seen people try to twist and manipulate scripture to fit into their teachings. Yes, the enemy is very deceptive and has many tactics. It is very important to put on the armor of God. Ephesians 6:10-18.
Floating around the web presently is this false teaching, "The incarnation disproves Total Depravity and sin nature."
I won't mention the website, nor the person responsible for this false teaching.
Here is their argument using scripture.
There are many issues here .
First, this is from a person who has very little understanding of who Jesus is.
Their understanding of the Trinity is flawed.
Their understanding of the Hypostatic union is flawed.
Many, if not most times we see heresy coming from well-meaning people. Many are not out to teach false gospels but are trying to help a situation, here it's trying to keep Jesus from original sin.
The Roman Catholics do this by teaching Mary is the mother of God, then carry this too far. They claim she was born sinless, therefore Jesus escapes original sin. I'd say, wait a minute! Who is Jesus?
Let's look at a few verses,
Why they would emphasize flesh (sarx)? We know he came in the flesh. Do, I sense some sort of Gnostic teaching coming?
I believe the person who created this has no real understanding of the passage. I think they get lost with Jesus again.
Yes, he was like us in every way. Every way but one actually. Can you guess what that is?
There is no "if," he did come in the flesh.
Nope. Wrong. Oops.
This is the proof they do not know who Jesus is, and they do not have a good understanding of scripture. At least I hope that is what it is. Because there are false teachers out there that know exactly what they are doing.
Poor theology.
The breach of the covenant of works by Adam was imputed unto us. Adam wasn't placed in the COW he was created in the COW. This isn't merely because we are partakers of the same nature as Adam, but because we were created in the COW in Adam and have broken it in him. That's headship theology, which scripture teaches.
There are some who deny this, even many Arminians, and they claim Adam's sin only affected him.
However, scripture does teach the righteous imputation of the covenant breach to all men. Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— Romans 5:12.
15 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. 16 And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. 17 For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness[b] leads to justification and life for all men.
So to deny such is to deny God's word itself.
As by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for the all have sinned.
We don't read that all men are sinful, but that all men have sinned.
Man is born dead. Man is born a sinner. Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— Romans 5:12.
I don't know about others but, scripture works for me.
You got that right!
No, not like all men. Wrong! oops. Men are not born innocent, or does God's wrath burn toward the innocent? among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. Eph 2:3.
Man, by nature is corrupt. Babies have a human nature, therefore, they are corrupt. Babies are born with the absence of God's image.
Considering all this. If all men were not guilty of Adams's breach of the covenant, if his sin wasn't imputed unto us, then each of us would enter the world as innocent and as perfect as Adam did.
Jesus did come in the flesh. Jesus was born sinless and holy. He was not born with original sin.
But how? Denying scripture does not help to prove anything. It's a bad practice.
The answer to why Adam's sin (original sin) was imputed unto all his posterity, but not unto Jesus is really quite simple. These false teachers miss it. Because they don't know him.
No it’s not you can give veneration for being faithful and virtuous such as Lk 1:45 but not worshipDoes to venerating require intent?
Worship one, venerate. . . two of the same.
Six of one a half dozen of the other.
Same thing worship and venerate,No it’s not you can give veneration for being faithful and virtuous such as Lk 1:45 but not worship
Scripture says blessed is the fruit f her womb!Idols are worshipped. Whether it's the sacred womb of Mary, or the sacred fire of Vesta or the sacred cow of India.
I do apreciate honest Catholics that don't make excuse for disobeying God. I just draw the line at idolzing any woman's womb.
That would also include whoremongerers.
It would seem you are offering the wrong kind of virginity. Having to do with the procreation the dying flesh of mankind and not those who have no other gods before our one Faithful Holy Father the Creator .The kind of virtiny of the chaste virgin brideMary and her virginity are Consecrated to God in immaculate purity, the pure gold of divine love!
Is that the only possible way to pray?Same thing worship and venerate,
What our Holy Father the invisible head of the church calls two or more. Satan would make it all one in the same Like the idea of sin mortal and venial sin . Fake sin, Not original mortal.
Matthew 6:9 After "this manner" therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed(venerateable ) be thy name.
Not venerate the names of a legion of fathers called patron saints.
Lk 1:45It would seem you are offering the wrong kind of virginity. Having to do with the procreation the dying flesh of mankind and not those who have no other gods before our one Faithful Holy Father the Creator .The kind of virtiny of the chaste virgin bride
2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
Espoused of Paul a member of the mother of us all . . who suffered in pains of birth preaching the gospel in a living hope Christ would be formed in Timothy the chaste virgin giving him newborn gain life .
Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
Galatians 4: 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Jesus the Son of man said whosoever does the will of God our Holy Father are his brothers sister and mother. Are you our brother in the Lord?
Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
The kind of family that calls no man on earth Holy Father.
How does that confirm the chaste virgin bride the church using Timothy as a member of the mother of us all. Again, the virginly has nothing to do with the dying flesh of mankind as in procreation. But rather in keeping the first commandment to have no gods in the likeness of men called patron saints before our one Holy Father in heaven. Jesus said whosoever does the will of the father are his brothers' sisters and mother. Is Mary your sister in the Lord?Lk 1:45
Acts 16:17How does that confirm the chaste virgin bride the church using Timothy as a member of the mother of us all. Again, the virginly has nothing to do with the dying flesh of mankind as in procreation. But rather in keeping the first commandment to have no gods in the likeness of men called patron saints before our one Holy Father in heaven. Jesus said whosoever does the will of the father are his brothers' sisters and mother. Is Mary your sister in the Lord?
The idea of a queen of heaven (female deity) was passed down as a law of the fathers from the Pharisees with Sadducees to the copycats the Roman sect .
The faithless Old Testament Jewish women along with atheist men demanded his and her gods. like all the sounding pagan nations.
When challenged with sola scriptura .They denied the final authority of all things written in the law and prophesy and said rather we will do whatever comes from our own mouth and called that idea of dying mankind a Sacred Tradition . Simply changed the name of the Queen, to Mary our blessed sister in the Lord.
Jerimiah 44:15-19 Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying, As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth,(if it feels good do it) to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine. And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?
Sacred womb! Scripture says: YES!Idols are worshipped. Whether it's the sacred womb of Mary, or the sacred fire of Vesta or the sacred cow of India.
I do apreciate honest Catholics that don't make excuse for disobeying God. I just draw the line at idolzing any woman's womb.
That would also include whoremongerers.
Scripture says blessed is the fruit f her womb!
The sacred womb is a type of idolatry. It came from old Roman sacred fire of vesta.The ark of the covenant is a type of Mary!
Worship requires intent and consent and an offeringIt's all about the Son, not the womb.
Seriously. The Baptist did not kick for joy, because the womb came into the room.
The sacred womb is a type of idolatry. It came from old Roman sacred fire of vesta.
2 Tim
{3:6} For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, {3:7} Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Silly wombs for silly women...
Much pagan stuff has creeped into Christian religion.
The whole created christ thing, is a Christian remake of the demigod Herakles, the favorite son of Zeus.
And saints venertion is old pagan hero worship stuff.
And don't get me started on relics idolatry.
No man other than the man Christ Jesus:You also opposed to “call no man father”? Matt 23:9
What Abraham Isaac and Jacob?No man other than the man Christ Jesus:
Isaiah
{9:6} For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.