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ON THE QUESTION OF JUDAS ISCARIOT

As you
Scripture says satan entered judas. He did not enter Peter.

As you may know Peter overcame his sin, and was the spokesperson for the new Moses, the real Israel and what it was really supposed to do.
 
As you


As you may know Peter overcame his sin, and was the spokesperson for the new Moses, the real Israel and what it was really supposed to do.
As did Judas.
He did everything having to do with repentance.
He realized his sin.
He confessed his sin.
He took back the money and rejected it by throwing it back at the priests.
The religious leaders should have taken him outside the city and stoned him in accordance to the Law but they told him to "See thou to that" (handle it yourself.)
He did. He gave his life as declared under the Law of Moses for being complicit in the condemnation and death of an innocent man (Jesus.)
As far as I am concerned that is true repentance and atonement.

3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. 5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. Mt 27:3–5.

It doesn't matter what sins he may have committed as disciple, Jesus NAMED HIM APOSTLE - are you going to challenge Jesus and call Him a liar in order to support your unmerciful heart and erroneous understanding of God's Word?
There are no true apostles of Christ in hell.
Judas is with Christ and being an "apostle of the Lamb" which dates these apostles during Jesus' work on earth Judas' name is mentioned on the foundation of the wall of the New Jerusalem.

14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. Rev 21:14.

What an honor the King of kings has bestowed upon an apostle He calls FRIEND.

PS: There are no friends of God in hell, either.
 
As did Judas.
He did everything having to do with repentance.
He realized his sin.
He confessed his sin.
He took back the money and rejected it by throwing it back at the priests.
The religious leaders should have taken him outside the city and stoned him in accordance to the Law but they told him to "See thou to that" (handle it yourself.)
He did. He gave his life as declared under the Law of Moses for being complicit in the condemnation and death of an innocent man (Jesus.)
As far as I am concerned that is true repentance and atonement.

3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. 5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. Mt 27:3–5.

It doesn't matter what sins he may have committed as disciple, Jesus NAMED HIM APOSTLE - are you going to challenge Jesus and call Him a liar in order to support your unmerciful heart and erroneous understanding of God's Word?
There are no true apostles of Christ in hell.
Judas is with Christ and being an "apostle of the Lamb" which dates these apostles during Jesus' work on earth Judas' name is mentioned on the foundation of the wall of the New Jerusalem.

14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. Rev 21:14.

What an honor the King of kings has bestowed upon an apostle He calls FRIEND.

PS: There are no friends of God in hell, either.

He didn't help in the mission of Israel to the nations. Oops. That's what the new Moses called them to.
 
As you


As you may know Peter overcame his sin, and was the spokesperson for the new Moses, the real Israel and what it was really supposed to do.
So did Judas.
He overcame his sin.
 
As did Judas.
He did everything having to do with repentance.
He realized his sin.
He confessed his sin.
He took back the money and rejected it by throwing it back at the priests.
The religious leaders should have taken him outside the city and stoned him in accordance to the Law but they told him to "See thou to that" (handle it yourself.)
He did. He gave his life as declared under the Law of Moses for being complicit in the condemnation and death of an innocent man (Jesus.)
As far as I am concerned that is true repentance and atonement.

3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. 5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. Mt 27:3–5.

It doesn't matter what sins he may have committed as disciple, Jesus NAMED HIM APOSTLE - are you going to challenge Jesus and call Him a liar in order to support your unmerciful heart and erroneous understanding of God's Word?
There are no true apostles of Christ in hell.
Judas is with Christ and being an "apostle of the Lamb" which dates these apostles during Jesus' work on earth Judas' name is mentioned on the foundation of the wall of the New Jerusalem.

14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. Rev 21:14.

What an honor the King of kings has bestowed upon an apostle He calls FRIEND.

PS: There are no friends of God in hell, either.
Hebrews 12
See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. 16 See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son. 17 Afterward, as you know, when he wanted to inherit this blessing, he was rejected. Even though he sought the blessing with tears, he could not change what he had done.

2 Corinthians 7
Even if I caused you sorrow by my letter, I do not regret it. Though I did regret it—I see that my letter hurt you, but only for a little while—9 yet now I am happy, not because you were made sorry, but because your sorrow led you to repentance. For you became sorrowful as God intended and so were not harmed in any way by us. 10 Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.

judas sorrow for sin was the above, not true repentance
 
You need to crosscheck by others. You are making too many self based claims.
Well, the Holy Spirit does speak to me.
Especially on Judas.
Don't worry.
God controls how much light each individual and generation receives to understand His Word.
Taking us glory to glory is a marvelous thing.
 
Hebrews 12
See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. 16 See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son. 17 Afterward, as you know, when he wanted to inherit this blessing, he was rejected. Even though he sought the blessing with tears, he could not change what he had done.

2 Corinthians 7
Even if I caused you sorrow by my letter, I do not regret it. Though I did regret it—I see that my letter hurt you, but only for a little while—9 yet now I am happy, not because you were made sorry, but because your sorrow led you to repentance. For you became sorrowful as God intended and so were not harmed in any way by us. 10 Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.

judas sorrow for sin was the above, not true repentance
Christ died for him.

20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. Lk 22:20.

6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Jn 17:6.

And ALL twelve were given to Christ by the Father:

12 And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God. 13 And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles; 14 Simon, (whom he also named Peter,) and Andrew his brother, James and John, Philip and Bartholomew, 15 Matthew and Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon called Zelotes, 16 And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor. Lk 6:12–16.

So, yes, Judas was elect, called, chosen, and Christ died for him. Salvation is of the LORD!

Repentace requires recognizing one's sin, confessing one's sin(s), repenting by doing the opposite of one's sin (in this case returning and rejecting the blood money), and obeying God in life for life.
The religious leaders should have obeyed God too and taken Judas outside the city and stoned him for being complicit in the condemnation and eventual death of an innocent man (Jesus).

Judas is with Christ.

Hallelu-JAH for God's merciful and precious gift of redemption!
 
Christ died for him.

20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. Lk 22:20.

6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Jn 17:6.

And ALL twelve were given to Christ by the Father:

12 And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God. 13 And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles; 14 Simon, (whom he also named Peter,) and Andrew his brother, James and John, Philip and Bartholomew, 15 Matthew and Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon called Zelotes, 16 And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor. Lk 6:12–16.

So, yes, Judas was elect, called, chosen, and Christ died for him. Salvation is of the LORD!

Repentace requires recognizing one's sin, confessing one's sin(s), repenting by doing the opposite of one's sin (in this case returning and rejecting the blood money), and obeying God in life for life.
The religious leaders should have obeyed God too and taken Judas outside the city and stoned him for being complicit in the condemnation and eventual death of an innocent man (Jesus).

Judas is with Christ.

Hallelu-JAH for God's merciful and precious gift of redemption!
And Jesus said He lost none except judas . And as an fyi I can argue and defend both positions . :)
 
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And Jesus said He lost none except judas . And as an fyi I can argue and defend both positions .
The word perdition has three senses: physical, spiritual, and eternal.

Can't be eternal because at Passover Jesus said He gives His body and blood FOR YOU (all twelve at the supper).

Can't be spiritual because he did not have a human spirit (as opposed to 'soul.') The human spirit is created at the time of conversion/salvation post-cross and post-Pentecost. Thus, with a soul and body and human spirit at conversion a person is restored to a trichotomy or image of God.

He ruined himself physically in committing suicide (and his bowels gushed out.)

That's how "perdition" applies.
 
A prophet like Moses in that he would lead his people from slavery (to sin).
But according to Heb 3, superior to Moses.

What matters is the severity of the warning about refusing Him.
 
The word perdition has three senses: physical, spiritual, and eternal.

Can't be eternal because at Passover Jesus said He gives His body and blood FOR YOU (all twelve at the supper).

Can't be spiritual because he did not have a human spirit (as opposed to 'soul.') The human spirit is created at the time of conversion/salvation post-cross and post-Pentecost. Thus, with a soul and body and human spirit at conversion a person is restored to a trichotomy or image of God.

He ruined himself physically in committing suicide (and his bowels gushed out.)

That's how "perdition" applies.

Jer, you are persistently confusing contexts and timeframes. The implication of the gospel narratives was that when Jesus exposed him, he left and put his plan into operation.
 
Jer, you are persistently confusing contexts and timeframes. The implication of the gospel narratives was that when Jesus exposed him, he left and put his plan into operation.
No. Jesus sent him to do his deed. This makes Jesus complicit in His own death.

John 13:27 (KJV 1900): Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

Judas was sent.
 
No. Jesus sent him to do his deed. This makes Jesus complicit in His own death.

John 13:27 (KJV 1900): Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

Judas was sent.

Sorry just another one of your ideas. He was not sent like the apostles were sent to the Gentiles, so forget that. He was kicked out, and the event was to be that day, to fulfill Passover.

Jesus did give up his own life, others would have reported his whereabouts if Judas had not. Complicit is the wrong word.
 
Sorry just another one of your ideas. He was not sent like the apostles were sent to the Gentiles, so forget that. He was kicked out, and the event was to be that day, to fulfill Passover.

Jesus did give up his own life, others would have reported his whereabouts if Judas had not. Complicit is the wrong word.
Apostolos is a Greek word that merely means “sent.”

Do you see in the Scripture I posted Jesus sending Judas “what thou dost do quickly “ Judas being sent by the Lord?
 
Sorry just another one of your ideas. He was not sent like the apostles were sent to the Gentiles, so forget that. He was kicked out, and the event was to be that day, to fulfill Passover.

Jesus did give up his own life, others would have reported his whereabouts if Judas had not. Complicit is the wrong word.
Kicked out and replaced. :)
 
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