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I'm saying the Incarnation was set up (God taking our humanity), so that Jesus could redeem man (the Gospel) and pour out His grace on mankind...Well yes, but Ephesians 2:8 was true from the very beginning. That is one reason why Paul brought Abraham into the argument in Romans 4. So saved by grace through faith didn't begin with the incarnation even though the effects of the incarnation and all that followed was certainly retroactive back to the very beginning. Without the incarnation, there would be no salvation.
John 1:17 KJV
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
John 1:14 ESV
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
IOW, grace takes the Gospel, even if it's foreseen as with Abraham.