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Mystery of the most holy trinity!

More evidence

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

The church of God is the body of Christ:

Ephesians 5:23
for the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church. He is the Savior of the body.

1 Tim 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

1 Tim 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

The church of Christ is the church of God!

Christ is God!
 
1 Jn 5:7

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Three persons one God!


A Trail of Evidence

But during this same time, we find mention of 1 John 5:7, from about 200 AD through the 1500s. Here is a useful timeline of references to this verse:

200 AD Tertullian wrote "which three are one" based on the verse in his Against Praxeas, chapter 25.

250 AD Cyprian of Carthage, wrote, "And again, of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost it is written: "And the three are One" in his On The Lapsed, On the Novatians, (see note for Old Latin)

350 AD Priscillian referred to it [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. xviii, p. 6.]

350 AD Idacius Clarus referred to it [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 62, col. 359.]

350 AD Athanasius referred to it in his De Incarnatione

398 AD Aurelius Augustine used it to defend Trinitarianism in De Trinitate against the heresy of Sabellianism

415 AD Council of Carthage appealed to 1 John 5:7 when debating the Arian belief (Arians didn't believe in the deity of Jesus Christ)

450-530 AD Several orthodox African writers quoted the verse when defending the doctrine of the Trinity against the gainsaying of the Vandals.

These writers are:
A) Vigilius Tapensis in "Three Witnesses in Heaven"
B) Victor Vitensis in his Historia persecutionis [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. vii, p. 60.]
C) Fulgentius in "The Three Heavenly Witnesses" [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 65, col. 500.]

500 AD Cassiodorus cited it [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 70, col. 1373.]

550 AD Old Latin ms r has it

550 AD The "Speculum" has it [The Speculum is a treatise that contains some good Old Latin scriptures.]

750 AD Wianburgensis referred to it.

800 AD Jerome's Vulgate has it.

1600’s KJV has it.

Most importantly it’s in the New Testament canon approved by apostolic decree in 381

It is the inspired “Word of God”!
 
Although it is true that the Bible never uses the word "trinity," many biblical passages speak of all three persons of the Godhead acting together:

at Jesus' baptism (Matt. 3:16-17)
the great commission (Matt. 28:19)
the Spirit sent (John 14:26)
Peter's Pentecost sermon (Acts 2:33-34)
Paul's discussion of flesh and spirit (Rom. 8:7-10)
Paul's discussion of spiritual gifts (1 Cor. 12:4-6)
Paul's travel plans (2 Cor. 1:21-22)
Paul's benediction (2 Cor. 13:14)
Paul's discussion of the fullness of time (Gal. 4:4-6)
Paul's prayer of praise to the Father (Eph. 1:3-14)
Paul's discussion of the Gentiles' former alienation (Eph. 2:18)
Paul's discussion of the oneness of God (Eph. 4:4-6)
Paul's discussion of the kindness of God (Titus 3:4-6)
Peter's introduction (1 Pet. 1:2)
 
1 Jn 5:7

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Three persons one God!
Every single verse in Scripture must coincide with the weight of the Bible as a whole. There is no support for that verse being interpreted to mean that God is 3 persons.

Without that very specific teaching, all verses used to refer to God being 3 people are merely misinterpretations.

Simple as that.

Nobody EVER rejected the Trinity for any reason other than the fact that the Bible does not teach it. There are a great number of people today who see clearly that the Trinity is taught nowhere in the Bible and this has been found to be the case since the time of Nicaea. It is ridiculous to assume that all these people came to this conclusion for any reason other than the fact that they, upon diligent seeking, could not find evidence for this doctrine anywhere in Scripture.

This controversy has gone on for thousands of years. Why do you suppose that is? We have asked over and over and over for the "teaching" of God being 3 persons to be produced from Scripture.

NOBODY has ever supplied that text. NOBODY.
 
Without that very specific teaching, all verses used to refer to God being 3 people are merely misinterpretations.
The Trinity doctrine does not say that God is three people. That is your view of the Trinity.
 
The holy trinity acts in union in creation!

Did The Father become man , an infant? Matt 1:23
Did the visit His people and redeem them? Lk 1:68
Did the Father descend from heaven in the form of a dove?

A father and son have the same nature.

The nature of the eternal Father is divine!

And in order to be eternal Father there must be an eternal offspring; the eternally begotten son of God” Jesus Christ!

Different person than the Father!

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

One divine nature / being / substance

Three divine persons

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit!

God is Spirit, but if the father sends the spirit, and the father is the spirit, then the father would be sending himself?
 
The Trinity doctrine does not say that God is three people. That is your view of the Trinity.
Oh, really?
253 The Trinity is One. We do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the "consubstantial Trinity". The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire: "The Father is that which the Son is, the Son that which the Father is, the Father and the Son that which the Holy Spirit is, i.e. by nature one God." In the words of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), "Each of the persons is that supreme reality, viz., the divine substance, essence or nature."
https://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/253.htm
 
Same person.

"...the Spirit of Truth; ... ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
John 14:17

Who was living with the disciples when Jesus said these words?

He (Jesus) was.

He repeats His point in verse 21 and 23 when He sees that HE will come to live with them.

Rom. 8:9-11 also makes clear that Jesus IS the Holy Spirit.

Nowhere does the Bible teach that God is either multiple persons or three persons. Nowhere.

In fact, it teaches just the opposite from Genesis to Revelation.
The Holy Ghost is one the father sends, He does not send Himself? Does not come Himself?
 
Same person.

"...the Spirit of Truth; ... ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
John 14:17

Who was living with the disciples when Jesus said these words?

He (Jesus) was.

He repeats His point in verse 21 and 23 when He sees that HE will come to live with them.

Rom. 8:9-11 also makes clear that Jesus IS the Holy Spirit.

Nowhere does the Bible teach that God is either multiple persons or three persons. Nowhere.

In fact, it teaches just the opposite from Genesis to Revelation.
Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty!

Blessed be the most Holy trinity!


Although it is true that the Bible never uses the word "trinity," many biblical passages speak of all three persons of the Godhead acting together:

at Jesus' baptism (Matt. 3:16-17)
the great commission (Matt. 28:19)
the Spirit sent (John 14:26)
Peter's Pentecost sermon (Acts 2:33-34)
Paul's discussion of flesh and spirit (Rom. 8:7-10)
Paul's discussion of spiritual gifts (1 Cor. 12:4-6)
Paul's travel plans (2 Cor. 1:21-22)
Paul's benediction (2 Cor. 13:14)
Paul's discussion of the fullness of time (Gal. 4:4-6)
Paul's prayer of praise to the Father (Eph. 1:3-14)
Paul's discussion of the Gentiles' former alienation (Eph. 2:18)
Paul's discussion of the oneness of God (Eph. 4:4-6)
Paul's discussion of the kindness of God (Titus 3:4-6)
Peter's introduction (1 Pet. 1:2)
 
Same person.

"...the Spirit of Truth; ... ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
John 14:17

Who was living with the disciples when Jesus said these words?

He (Jesus) was.

He repeats His point in verse 21 and 23 when He sees that HE will come to live with them.

Rom. 8:9-11 also makes clear that Jesus IS the Holy Spirit.

Nowhere does the Bible teach that God is either multiple persons or three persons. Nowhere.

In fact, it teaches just the opposite from Genesis to Revelation.
Is Jesus our salvation?
 
Every single verse in Scripture must coincide with the weight of the Bible as a whole. There is no support for that verse being interpreted to mean that God is 3 persons.

Without that very specific teaching, all verses used to refer to God being 3 people are merely misinterpretations.

Simple as that.

Nobody EVER rejected the Trinity for any reason other than the fact that the Bible does not teach it. There are a great number of people today who see clearly that the Trinity is taught nowhere in the Bible and this has been found to be the case since the time of Nicaea. It is ridiculous to assume that all these people came to this conclusion for any reason other than the fact that they, upon diligent seeking, could not find evidence for this doctrine anywhere in Scripture.

This controversy has gone on for thousands of years. Why do you suppose that is? We have asked over and over and over for the "teaching" of God being 3 persons to be produced from Scripture.

NOBODY has ever supplied that text. NOBODY.
What else is there?

Three God’s? No!

The holy apostolic church by the authority and command of Jesus Christ teach it! Matt 16:18-19 Matt 28:19 all Christians are bound on earth to believe. Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 have the same authority as Christ Jn 20:21-23

The apostolic church does not require scripture to know the truth!

The church was taught by Christ in person for three years!

And we must hear the church Matt 18:17 and be taught by holy mother church!

Lk 1:4
Matt 28:19
Lk 10:16
Jn 20:21
Acts 16:17
Acts 8:31
Titus 1:9
Titus 2:12
Colossians 2:7
Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught…

No Christian has the authority to read scripture for yourself and decide your own doctrines or beliefs! “One faith” Eph 4:5 Thee faith once handed to the saints” Jude 1:3


The divinity of Christ and the Trinity are Christian doctrines revealed by Christ and taught by His authority in His church!


What is the mystery of God? Col 1:26
 
Every single verse in Scripture must coincide with the weight of the Bible as a whole. There is no support for that verse being interpreted to mean that God is 3 persons.

Without that very specific teaching, all verses used to refer to God being 3 people are merely misinterpretations.

Simple as that.

Nobody EVER rejected the Trinity for any reason other than the fact that the Bible does not teach it. There are a great number of people today who see clearly that the Trinity is taught nowhere in the Bible and this has been found to be the case since the time of Nicaea. It is ridiculous to assume that all these people came to this conclusion for any reason other than the fact that they, upon diligent seeking, could not find evidence for this doctrine anywhere in Scripture.

This controversy has gone on for thousands of years. Why do you suppose that is? We have asked over and over and over for the "teaching" of God being 3 persons to be produced from Scripture.

NOBODY has ever supplied that text. NOBODY.
Cos of the false doctrine of the “Bible alone” based on your private judgement!

You shall know them by their fruits.

Protestant doctrine forms a rebellion not reformation and “Rejects Jesus Christ” not formally or by name or person, but rejection of the apostolic church established by Christ is rejection of Christ!

And by the Rejection of the truth revealed by Christ is rejection of Christ!

And by the rejection of the “Authorized ministers sent by Christ is rejection of Christ!


The “Scripture alone” doctrine rejects the apostolic tradition or the teaching authority of Jesus Christ in His church!

Christ Himself verifies these facts!

Lk 10:16
Whoever hears you hears Me. Whoever rejects you rejects Me. And whoever rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me.”
(Apostles)

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
(Apostles)

Acts 2:42 not scripture alone!
 
"Persons" is not the same thing as three people. People are persons, but in theology person is applied to the beings of a triune God. All co-existent, co-eternal, and co-equal, but distinct. A personal being is rational, (has the ability to reason) thinks, walks, talks, makes decisions, has breath, as opposed to a thing, such as a dumb idol made of wood or a tree. God is a personal being. He relates within Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and personally with His creation. He is not an it or a force. Since the Trinity is a doctrine born of a theology, it is that definition that must be applied to it.
 
Truth of divine revelation is communicated in many ways!

By the heavens: Ps 19:1
By the Father: Matt 16:17
By Christ in person: Matt 5:2 Mk 1:21-22 Lk 5:3 Jn 3:16
By the Holy Spirit: 1 Tim 4:1
By the call of God: Gen 12:1
By the burning bush: Ex 3:2
By Sacred Scripture: Lk 24:32
By Sacred Tradition: 2 thes 2:15
By the apostles preaching the word:
Acts 8:4 Acts 8:35
By Christ’s command that the apostolic churches teaches all men unto eternal salvation:
Matt 28:19
By the Angels: Ex 3:2 Matt 1:20
Lk 1:28 Acts 8:26
By dreams: Matt 1:20
By visions: Acts 19:17
By unknown means: Lk 3:2
By preaching of John the Baptist: Lk 3:3-5

Not by “Scripture alone”!

Scripture? Yes
Scripture alone? No!
Scripture & Tradition? Yes
 
Scripture Verses that contradict the “Bible is our ONLY AUTHORITY”!

Matt 5:14
Matt 6:33
Matt 13:11
Matt 18:17
Matt 28:19
Lk 1:4
Lk 10:16
Jn 8:32
Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21
Acts 1:8
Acts 2:42
Acts 8:26
Acts 8:31
Acts 18:25
Rom 10:15
1 cor 4:11
1 cor 11:23
1 thes 2:23
2 thes 2:2
2 thes 2:15
Col 2:7
Eph 4:5
Heb 13:7
Heb 13:17
1 Tim 3:15
1 Jn 1:3-5
1 Jn 4:6
2 Jn 1:12
Jude 1:3

How can it be said scripture is “sole authority” or the only source of truth or the rule of faith when scripture itself says we must hear the church Matt 18:17 the apostles are the light of the world Matt 5:14 we must hold the doctrine of the apostles acts 2:42 the church is the pillar and ground of truth 1 Tim 3:15

Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32

Christ commanded his church to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! Matt 28:19

The apostolic church does not require scripture to know the truth revealed by God and taught by Christ to His apostles in person for three years!
 
The holy trinity acts in union in creation!

Did The Father become man , an infant? Matt 1:23
Did the visit His people and redeem them? Lk 1:68
Did the Father descend from heaven in the form of a dove?

A father and son have the same nature.

The nature of the eternal Father is divine!

And in order to be eternal Father there must be an eternal offspring; the eternally begotten son of God” Jesus Christ!

Different person than the Father!

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

One divine nature / being / substance

Three divine persons

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit!

God is Spirit, but if the father sends the spirit, and the father is the spirit, then the father would be sending himself?
Three kinds of witness of two, the dynamic dual The Father with the Son. Two is the one witness one God has spoken

The Holy Spirit the same Spirit of the Father . The Father the Holy Spirit of sonship by which we can cry out Abba Holy Father or invisible head
He lovingly commands us to call no man one earth Holy Father. Holy See, prince of the Apostles ETC. Not a legion of Holy Fathers called patron saints
 
Excellent! But I think the word “people” sounds kinda human, and the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are divine persons!

Dogma or divinely revealed truth!

12. There is only One God.
*Deut. 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

13. The One God is, in the ontological sense, The True God.
14. God possesses an infinite power of cognition.
15. God is absolute Veracity.
16. God is absolutely faithful.
17. God is absolute ontological Goodness in Himself and in relation to others.
18. God is absolute Moral Goodness or Holiness.
19. God is absolute Benignity.
20. God is absolutely immutable.

21. God is eternal.
*Psalm 90: 2 …even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
*Deut. 33:27 the eternal God is thy refuge…
34. In God there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Each of the Three
Persons possesses the one (numerical) Divine Essence.
35. In God there are two Internal Divine Processions.

36. The Divine Persons, not the Divine Nature, are the subject of the Internal Divine processions (in the active and in the passive sense).
37. The Second Divine Person proceeds from the First Divine Person by Generation, and therefore is related to Him as Son to a Father.
38. The Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father and from the Son as from a Single Principle through a Single Spiration.
39. The Holy Ghost does not proceed through generation but through spiration.
40. The Relations in God are really identical with the Divine Nature.
41. The Three Divine Persons are in One Another.

42. All the ad extra Activities of God are common to all Three Persons.
*Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
 
Christ is a divine person who became man! (Incarnation)

True God and true Man!

God from God
Light from light
One in being with the father

Eternally begotten Son of God!
 
Athanasius Creed!
(From the early church)
Whoever desires to be saved must above all hold to the catholic faith.

Anyone who does not keep it whole and entire will doubtless perish eternally.

Now this is the catholic faith:

That we worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity, neither blending their persons nor dividing their essence. For the person of the Father is a distinct person, the person of the Son is another,
and that of the Holy Spirit still another.
But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one, their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.

What quality the Father has, the Son has, and the Holy Spirit has. The Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, the Holy Spirit is uncreated.

The Father is immeasurable, the Son is immeasurable, the Holy Spirit is immeasurable.

The Father is eternal, the Son is eternal,
the Holy Spirit is eternal.

And yet there are not three eternal beings; there is but one eternal being.
So too there are not three uncreated or immeasurable beings, there is but one uncreated and immeasurable being.

Similarly, the Father is almighty, the Son is almighty, the Holy Spirit is almighty. Yet there are not three almighty beings;
there is but one almighty being.

Thus the Father is God,
the Son is God,
the Holy Spirit is God.
Yet there are not three gods;
there is but one God.

Thus the Father is Lord,
the Son is Lord,
the Holy Spirit is Lord.
Yet there are not three lords;
there is but one Lord.

Just as Christian truth compels us
to confess each person individually
as both God and Lord, so catholic religion forbids us to say that there are three gods or lords.

The Father was neither made nor created nor begotten from anyone. The Son was neither made nor created; he was begotten from the Father alone. The Holy Spirit was neither made nor created nor begotten; he proceeds from the Father and the Son.

Accordingly there is one Father, not three fathers; there is one Son, not three sons;
there is one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.

Nothing in this trinity is before or after,
nothing is greater or smaller; in their entirety the three persons are coeternal and coequal with each other.

So in everything, as was said earlier,
we must worship their trinity in their unity and their unity in their trinity.

Anyone then who desires to be saved
should think thus about the trinity.

But it is necessary for eternal salvation
that one also believe in the incarnation
of our Lord Jesus Christ faithfully.

Now this is the true faith:

That we believe and confess
that our Lord Jesus Christ, God's Son,
is both God and human, equally.

He is God from the essence of the Father,
begotten before time; and he is human from the essence of his mother, born in time; completely God, completely human, with a rational soul and human flesh; equal to the Father as regards divinity, less than the Father as regards humanity.

Although he is God and human,
yet Christ is not two, but one.
He is one, however, not by his divinity being turned into flesh, but by God's taking humanity to himself.He is one,
certainly not by the blending of his essence, but by the unity of his person.
For just as one human is both rational soul and flesh, so too the one Christ is both God and human.

He suffered for our salvation; he descended to hell; he arose from the dead; he ascended to heaven; he is seated at the Father's right hand; from there he will come to judge the living and the dead. At his coming all people will arise bodily and give an accounting of their own deeds. Those who have done good will enter eternal life, and those who have done evil will enter eternal fire.

This is the catholic faith:
one cannot be saved without believing it firmly and faithfully.

Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God of hosts!
 
All co-existent, co-eternal, and co-equal, but distinct.
Another spreading of a false gospel.

Jesus says His Father is greater than He.

This is why I claim the triune god world is a circus.
 
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