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Mystery of the most holy trinity!

What's not possible making the warning to no effect ,void of understanding? .. Do we need a man to teach us ?

1 John 1:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Matt 28:19
 
Physical matter, the temporal seen has it purpose for comparing the temporal historical things seen with the eternal not seen . In that way we can rightly divide or interpret the parables and unlock the mysteries of faith (the unseen things of God ) hiding the gospel from unbelievers.

In that way parables teach us how to walk or understand after the unseen eternal things of God.

A valuable tool . . . . . .

. 2 Corinthians 4:18King James Version18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

They must be mixed

Do you reject that the Son is the Eternal God? (John 8:58, Genesis 21:33, Micah 5:2, Psalms 90:2 4, Hebrews 1:10-12, 13:8, Revelations 1:8, 22:13, Matthew 28:20). The Eternal God has come in the flesh and dwell among us.
 
Do you reject that the Son is the Eternal God? (John 8:58, Genesis 21:33, Micah 5:2, Psalms 90:2 4, Hebrews 1:10-12, 13:8, Revelations 1:8, 22:13, Matthew 28:20). The Eternal God has come in the flesh and dwell among us.
I would offer the Son of God is the Son God Eternal God is eternal God. God is not nam

All believers are sons of God. Jesus the Son of man is the first of those born again sons of God .

1 John 3:1-2Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
 
I would offer the Son of God is the Son God Eternal God is eternal God. God is not nam

Weird. I'm not going to try to understand what you just said.
 
Weird. I'm not going to try to understand what you just said.
Its not that hard, the son is the son

The father is the father .two individual working as one s

The Father is Eternal God .
 
Then what is your understanding?
Only a man with God’s anointing?
Yes that's sola scriptura.


Acts 2
22Men of Israel, listen to this message: Jesus of Nazareth was a man certified by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs, which God did among you through Him, as you yourselves know.

Acts 10
37You yourselves know what has happened throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee with the baptism that John proclaimed: 38how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, because God was with Him.

1 Timothy 2
5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
 
According to scripture this is not possible!

Lk 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
The God is Israel is Yahweh, not Jesus. Not sure why you put this one in here from way out of left field.

1 John 1:2
(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
1 John 1:1-3 says the "word of life" is an it that manifested a human. This proves that the "word become flesh" of John 1:1-14 is being personified and isn't actually a he who was a pre-existent being known as Jesus who became a man. Jesus was created.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is themystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in theSpirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

"God was manifest in the flesh" is an alteration to the text. Most versions therefore use "he who was manifest in the flesh" because that's what the best texts say.

1 Timothy 3
16By common confession, the mystery of godliness is great:
He appeared in the flesh,
was vindicated by the Spirit,
was seen by angels,
was proclaimed among the nations,
was believed in throughout the world,
was taken up in glory.




Jesus Christ true God and true man!
Not according to scripture rightly divided.

If a man is God then he isn't a man and he isn't God. That's a self-contradictory statement known as a paradox. The best minds of your religion readily admit the trinity is a "great mystery" after all.
 
Do you reject that the Son is the Eternal God? (John 8:58, Genesis 21:33, Micah 5:2, Psalms 90:2 4, Hebrews 1:10-12, 13:8, Revelations 1:8, 22:13, Matthew 28:20). The Eternal God has come in the flesh and dwell among us.
God is not a man:

“God is not a man” – Numbers 23:19​
“For I am God, and not man,” – Hosea 11:9​

Jesus is called a man many times:

“a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.” – John 8:40​
“a man certified by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs, which God did among you through Him, as you yourselves know.” – Acts 2:22​
“He will judge the world with justice by the Man He has appointed.” – Acts 17:31​
“the man Christ Jesus,” – 1 Timothy 2:5​

Jesus denied being God:

“Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone” – Luke 18:19​
“Why do you ask Me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good.” – Matthew 19:17​

God is greater than Jesus:

“the Father is greater than I.” – John 14:28​
“My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all.” – John 10:29​

The disciples did not believe Jesus is God:

“Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know” – Acts 2:22​
“The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified His Servant Jesus, “ – Acts 3:13​
“God, having raised up His Servant Jesus” – Acts 3:26​
 
Matt 28:19
The Bible says "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" and then doesn't mention or explain a trinity god. Then you come along and say "look, that's the trinity god." See the difference between your commentary and sola scriptura?
 
What a way to avoid and evade what I said in my post.
You are the ones who avoid the simple fact and make it complicated.

It is called man-made doctrine.

You guys are making your head spin.

and claim triune god is a mystery.

Non-trins won't take your childish games.

Because we know what the Bible says.
 
You are the ones who avoid the simple fact and make it complicated.

It is called man-made doctrine.

You guys are making your head spin.

and claim triune god is a mystery.

Non-trins won't take your childish games.

Because we know what the Bible says.
Round and round go the wheels on the bus, the wheels on the bus, the wheels on the bus. Round and round go the wheel on the bus all the livelong day.
 
Round and round go the wheels on the bus, the wheels on the bus, the wheels on the bus. Round and round go the wheel on the bus all the livelong day.
Yes, that's all you guys are doing.

nothing new.
 
Weird. I'm not going to try to understand what you just said.
Yes that's sola scriptura.


Acts 2
22Men of Israel, listen to this message: Jesus of Nazareth was a man certified by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs, which God did among you through Him, as you yourselves know.

Acts 10
37You yourselves know what has happened throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee with the baptism that John proclaimed: 38how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, because God was with Him.

1 Timothy 2
5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Please explain Lk 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

Did the father visit the parole or Christ?

Is the father the redeemer of Christ?

Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Does the father become a child?

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is themystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in theSpirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Was the father manifest in the flesh?

Was the father preached?

Was the father taken up in glory? Acts 1:9

Don’t run away, actually answer please!

Thks
 
The God is Israel is Yahweh, not Jesus. Not sure why you put this one in here from way out of left field.


1 John 1:1-3 says the "word of life" is an it that manifested a human. This proves that the "word become flesh" of John 1:1-14 is being personified and isn't actually a he who was a pre-existent being known as Jesus who became a man. Jesus was created.



"God was manifest in the flesh" is an alteration to the text. Most versions therefore use "he who was manifest in the flesh" because that's what the best texts say.

1 Timothy 3
16By common confession, the mystery of godliness is great:
He appeared in the flesh,
was vindicated by the Spirit,
was seen by angels,
was proclaimed among the nations,
was believed in throughout the world,
was taken up in glory.





Not according to scripture rightly divided.

If a man is God then he isn't a man and he isn't God. That's a self-contradictory statement known as a paradox. The best minds of your religion readily admit the trinity is a "great mystery" after all.
It’s not possible for a person to have two natures? Why

And our religion is revealed by God in its fullness by Christ with the apostolic Church lead into all truth by the spirit Jn 16:13 and commanded to teach all men! Matt 28:19 so what does it teach?

Apostolic Council Of Ephesus – 431 A.D. with authority from Christ to bind and loose the faith of all Christians. Matt 16:19 & 18:18

If anyone does not confess that Emmanuel is God in truth, and therefore that the holy virgin is the mother of God (for she bore in a fleshly way the Word of God become flesh) let him be anathema.

Thks
 
Please explain Lk 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
You just need to read the context. The one the Lord God of Israel raised up in a human, a prophet. The Lord God isn't Jesus. The Lord straight paths were prepared for is YHWH, not Jesus.

Luke 1
76And you, child, will be called
a prophet of the Most High;
for you will go on before the Lord
to prepare the way for Him,
Did the father visit the parole or Christ?
Both.

Is the father the redeemer of Christ?
Of course.

Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Does the father become a child?
That isn't about the Father becoming a child.

This is about a human who needed time to learn to reject evil and choose God. Obviously that isn't God.

Isaiah 7​
14Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call Him Immanuel. 15By the time He knows enough to reject evil and choose good, He will be eating curds and honey.​
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is themystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in theSpirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
God wasn't manifest in the flesh. The earliest manuscripts don't say "God was manifest in the flesh." As such, most Bible say "he appeared in the flesh..." or something like that.

1 Timothy 3​
16By common confession, the mystery of godliness is great:​
He appeared in the flesh,
was vindicated by the Spirit,​
was seen by angels,​
was proclaimed among the nations,​
was believed in throughout the world,​
was taken up in glory.​


Was the father manifest in the flesh?
In what sense? Did God become a man? No.

Was the father preached?
Yes.

Romans 10​
13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”​
Was the father taken up in glory? Acts 1:9
No.
 
You just need to read the context. The one the Lord God of Israel raised up in a human, a prophet. The Lord God isn't Jesus. The Lord straight paths were prepared for is YHWH, not Jesus.

Luke 1
76And you, child, will be called
a prophet of the Most High;
for you will go on before the Lord
to prepare the way for Him,

Both.


Of course.


That isn't about the Father becoming a child.

This is about a human who needed time to learn to reject evil and choose God. Obviously that isn't God.

Isaiah 7​
14Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call Him Immanuel. 15By the time He knows enough to reject evil and choose good, He will be eating curds and honey.​

God wasn't manifest in the flesh. The earliest manuscripts don't say "God was manifest in the flesh." As such, most Bible say "he appeared in the flesh..." or something like that.

1 Timothy 3​
16By common confession, the mystery of godliness is great:​
He appeared in the flesh,
was vindicated by the Spirit,​
was seen by angels,​
was proclaimed among the nations,​
was believed in throughout the world,​
was taken up in glory.​



In what sense? Did God become a man? No.


Yes.

Romans 10​
13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”​

No.
You are the official “king of twist”!!!
 
You are the official “king of twist”!!!
Not my fault the trinitarian bible only contains 7-8 prooftexts that when the local and remote context is considered are proven false.
 
Matt 28:19
Are you saying the warning in 1st John 2 is made to no effect because of that verse? It does the the oposite .it confirms the warning 1 John 2 .

God does not send out men who violate the warning . It only shows false prophet, bringing false doctrines of dying mankin ( oral traditions)?
 
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