At that time there was no NT.
Matthew 16, what was revealed to Peter
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At that time there was no NT.
It is an attack on God.
But they preached the word
Acts 13:5
We must believe and obey both Christ and the church He founded on the apostles (Matt 16:18-19) to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! (Matt 28:19)
(Not scripture alone)
Sacred Scripture according to the churches cannon and interpretation? Yes!
Scripture alone? No!
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things by, by whom also he made the worlds;
“Not by scripture alone”!
That’s the nail in the coffin of “Sola scriptura” it is dead and buried, “false doctrine” the doctrine of demons like all the sola’s!
It’s
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Jn 1:17
Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life! Jn 14:6
And this extends to His apostolic church, Christ and His church are one and inseparable! Acts 9:4 Jn 15:5 eph 5:32 acts 2:42
One shepherd and one fold! Jn 10:16
The truth of the Christian faith and the church are of divine origin and cannot be reformed!
Jesus Christ is the Light of the world! Jn 8:12
Apostolic church the light of the world! Matt 5:14
Must Hear Jesus Christ! Matt 17:5
Acts 3:23
Must Hear the apostolic church! Matt 18:17 1 Jn 4:6
Authority of Jesus Christ! Matt 28:17
Authority of the apostles! Jn 20:21
Jesus Christ has Reconciliation!
2 cor 5:19
Apostles have ministry of Reconciliation! 2 cor 5:18
Jesus Christ have power to forgive mens sins! Lk 5:20 Jn
Apostles have power to forgive mens sins! Jn 20:23
Jesus Christ is the truth! Jn 14:6
The apostolic church is the pillar of truth! 1 Tim 3:16
For the apostolic authority in Holy church decided and decreed (bound on earth / bound in heaven) the canon of Scripture, and is the only authentic interpreter of scripture!
The Christian faith is revealed by Christ!
Jesus Christ before ascending to heaven gave His apostles the fullness of truth, the apostolic church our mother and teacher is commanded by Him to teach and to sanctify with her sacraments (the promise of the spirit) all men unto eternal salvation! We are commanded to believe and obey! Matt 28:19
How can the Protestant concept: “sacred scripture is the only infallible source of truth” be true? There must be some infallible source that must tell us what is the canon of scripture & has authority to interpret scripture!
It is impossible to reject the church or her teaching without rejecting Christ who founded the church and revealed her teaching!
You cannot reject the kingdom established by the king and say I obey and submit to the king!
Rom 13:7 honor Mary!
Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
Lk 1:48 “all generations (Christians) shall call me blessed”!
If a man Honors his wife, and asks her to help him, and is Devoted to her, and gives her Veneration he MUST be worshipping her including adoration! Right?
Praise of Mary and the saints redounds to the glory of God and Christ, cos Mary and the saints are what God made them, it is His handiwork (Lk 1:49 Lk 1:28) and the graces they have received come from the merits of Christ’s passion and death. Jesus Christ is the source of all grace! Jn 1:16-17
Yeah, so?
That doesn't mean to pray to her which is blasphemous.
Matt 5:14
1 Tim 3:15
Apostolic church is the light (truth) of the world and pillar of truth
We must hear and obey Matt 18:17
For those who are in the communion of saints Our prayer is directed to God thru the intercession of the saints!
So it cannot be “scripture is the only authority”!
We must believe and obey both Christ and the church He founded on the apostles (Matt 16:18-19) to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! (Matt 28:19)
(Not scripture alone)
Sacred Scripture according to the churches cannon and interpretation? Yes!
Scripture alone? No!
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things by, by whom also he made the worlds;
“Not by scripture alone”!
That’s the nail in the coffin of “Sola scriptura” it is dead and buried, “false doctrine” the doctrine of demons like all the sola’s!
It’s
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Jn 1:17
Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life! Jn 14:6
And this extends to His apostolic church, Christ and His church are one and inseparable! Acts 9:4 Jn 15:5 eph 5:32 acts 2:42
One shepherd and one fold! Jn 10:16
The truth of the Christian faith and the church are of divine origin and cannot be reformed!
Jesus Christ is the Light of the world! Jn 8:12
Apostolic church the light of the world! Matt 5:14
Must Hear Jesus Christ! Matt 17:5
Acts 3:23
Must Hear the apostolic church! Matt 18:17 1 Jn 4:6
Authority of Jesus Christ! Matt 28:17
Authority of the apostles! Jn 20:21
Jesus Christ has Reconciliation!
2 cor 5:19
Apostles have ministry of Reconciliation! 2 cor 5:18
Jesus Christ have power to forgive mens sins! Lk 5:20 Jn
Apostles have power to forgive mens sins! Jn 20:23
Jesus Christ is the truth! Jn 14:6
The apostolic church is the pillar of truth! 1 Tim 3:16
For the apostolic authority in Holy church decided and decreed (bound on earth / bound in heaven) the canon of Scripture, and is the only authentic interpreter of scripture!
The Christian faith is revealed by Christ!
Jesus Christ before ascending to heaven gave His apostles the fullness of truth, the apostolic church our mother and teacher is commanded by Him to teach and to sanctify with her sacraments (the promise of the spirit) all men unto eternal salvation! We are commanded to believe and obey! Matt 28:19
How can the Protestant concept: “sacred scripture is the only infallible source of truth” be true? There must be some infallible source that must tell us what is the canon of scripture & has authority to interpret scripture!
It is impossible to reject the church or her teaching without rejecting Christ who founded the church and revealed her teaching!
You cannot reject the kingdom established by the king and say I obey and submit to the king!
Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church to teach and sanctify (baptize) all men unto eternal salvation! (Matt 28:19)
Christ and His church are one!
((Inseparable unity))
Acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 eph 5:32 Isa 53:5 Jn 15:5 eph 5:24
We must believe and obey both Christ and the church He founded on the apostles (Matt 16:18-19) to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! (Matt 28:19)
(Not scripture alone)
Sacred Scripture according to the churches cannon and interpretation? Yes!
Scripture alone? No!
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things by, by whom also he made the worlds;
“Not by scripture alone”!
That’s the nail in the coffin of “Sola scriptura” it is dead and buried, “false doctrine” the doctrine of demons like all the sola’s!
It’s
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Jn 1:17
Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life! Jn 14:6
And this extends to His apostolic church, Christ and His church are one and inseparable! Acts 9:4 Jn 15:5 eph 5:32 acts 2:42
One shepherd and one fold! Jn 10:16
The truth of the Christian faith and the church are of divine origin and cannot be reformed!
Jesus Christ is the Light of the world! Jn 8:12
Apostolic church the light of the world! Matt 5:14
Must Hear Jesus Christ! Matt 17:5
Acts 3:23
Must Hear the apostolic church! Matt 18:17 1 Jn 4:6
Authority of Jesus Christ! Matt 28:17
Authority of the apostles! Jn 20:21
Jesus Christ has Reconciliation!
2 cor 5:19
Apostles have ministry of Reconciliation! 2 cor 5:18
Jesus Christ have power to forgive mens sins! Lk 5:20 Jn
Apostles have power to forgive mens sins! Jn 20:23
Jesus Christ is the truth! Jn 14:6
The apostolic church is the pillar of truth! 1 Tim 3:16
For the apostolic authority in Holy church decided and decreed (bound on earth / bound in heaven) the canon of Scripture, and is the only authentic interpreter of scripture!
The Christian faith is revealed by Christ!
Jesus Christ before ascending to heaven gave His apostles the fullness of truth, the apostolic church our mother and teacher is commanded by Him to teach and to sanctify with her sacraments (the promise of the spirit) all men unto eternal salvation! We are commanded to believe and obey! Matt 28:19
How can the Protestant concept: “sacred scripture is the only infallible source of truth” be true? There must be some infallible source that must tell us what is the canon of scripture & has authority to interpret scripture!
It is impossible to reject the church or her teaching without rejecting Christ who founded the church and revealed her teaching!
You cannot reject the kingdom established by the king and say I obey and submit to the king!
Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church to teach and sanctify (baptize) all men unto eternal salvation! (Matt 28:19)
Christ and His church are one!
((Inseparable unity))
Acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 eph 5:32 Isa 53:5 Jn 15:5 eph 5:24
Keiw1
Well Known Member
Prov 4:18--light gets brighter--Matt 24:45= at the proper time.
Peter knew Jesus as the messiah, the son of God= not God. That is what was revealed.
The Jehovah's Witnesses think the light is growing brighter and brighter for them (Proverbs 4:18). However, their light more accurately resembles the light spoken of here:
Job 10:22
A land of darkness, as darkness itself; and of the shadow of death, without any order, and where the light is as darkness. (KJV)
See the conclusion found here:
Hi Don
I would offer. The invisible head Christ, the husband requires His bride the Church to beleive all things writen in the law and prophets (sola scriptura)
He warns us of those who do say we need dying mankind to teach us the oral traditons. That is as if Emanuel (god with us in us) could not keep his promise to dwell with us teach us, guide, comfort and last but cream of the crop he brings to our memory the previous things he has taught us .
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Is he teaching comforting you ? or is it Peter and our blessed sister in the Lord Mary ?
In Philippians 1:6 our invisible head Christ infallibly informs believers, If he began the good , miraculous teaching work in a believer he will continue till the day we die He is our very confidence Put no confidence in dying flesh and blood carrying out its appointment to die once
The antichrists as false apostles, sent with false prophecy (oral traditons of dying mankind)
1 John 2:26-27 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him
Who is teaching you today? The legion of fathers?
Would they be excluded from the any man in 1John 2? The law in the CCC bible says dying mankind is divine . . . .is it?
Can dying mankind serve two different kind of teaching masters as one good teaching master s the invisible head Christ.?
Paragraph 80 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church (the book of Catholic law of men states) that Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture are closely linked and communicate with each other. Both come from the same divine source and work together to achieve the same goal. They also make Christ's mystery present and fruitful in the Church
Sounds like blasphemy to me . Which one Peter or Christ?
Keiw1
Well Known Member
Lets put your theory to the test.
JW religion= a worldwide brotherhood, unified in love, peace and thought. (1Cor 1:10)
hundreds of trinity religions with hundreds of different truths= a mass of confusion.--- (Walmart sells glasses Fred.
Unified in thought?
But yet you are at a total loss in answering this simple question at the end of post 1:
https://christcentered.community.forum/threads/to-whom-does-the-master-refer-to-in-ephesians-6-9-and-colossians-4-1.121/#post-2597
Be sure to pick yourself a pair of glasses that don't make you see everything backwards.
I would offer remember Atheism is a religion (belief).no such thing as no religion.
Christ our invisible head calls them fools. The foundation of Paganism as in "out sight out of mind" .(who would beleive in a God not seen ???)
The same kind of fools as the Galatians that resisted the unseen will of the Father. . . teaching them how to understand the unseen things of Christ
The one kind of religion that God puts his good seal of approval on. To visit the fatherless. We all were Fatherless as orphans until adopted in the family of God. All as widows before engaged to Christ the husband the founder of the heavenly city prepared for his bride and remain as a light to the world .
The approval of His special care for each other
James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
Galatians 6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.. . . . (Christ in us yoked with him)
I would ask why is it nesecassry to believe in a God seen ? The Pharisees with Sadducees two signs to wonders after seekers. They made Jesus into a circus Seal work a miracle do a trick and then when we see it with our own eyes then maybe will believe at least for a short while. Just don't turn your back
JW's have different problems
Walk (understand) by faith the unseen eternal not after dying things of mankind the temporal .
Keiw1
Well Known Member
JW,s have Gods 1 truth.
Which 1 is that ? No blood transfusion?
Confessions of faith that Jesus is the Christ, only come from the Spirit of God and the Father.
1Co 12:3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
It's not new info that Jesus is the Christ.
Later Christs have come with new info from their apostles, but not from the Father nor the Son Jesus Christ and His apostles.
Mark 13:22For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Keiw1
Well Known Member
Nt says-abstain from blood. No mortal can prove it doesn't mean blood transfusions. But Gods word clearly shows God does not want one to take blood into their body by eating it so why would he allow one to transfuse it into their body?
