Let us make man in our IMAGE

[fastfredy0]

"Man was made in the image of God" .... this IMO is the most abused, misunderstood phrase in the Bible.

I won't bother to expand on my thoughts. Good luck.

 

[LeviR]

"Man was made in the image of God" .... this IMO is the most abused, misunderstood phrase in the Bible.

I won't bother to expand on my thoughts. Good luck.

God is like a tree standing tall, and we are the shadow(image) of that tree cast on the ground. The shadow resembles the tree’s appearance but is dark. The light shines only on the tree.

 

[makesends]

If I had shut my mind off from learning, as it seems you have, I’d be nothing more than a parrot. They could call me Polly. “Polly want a cracker?”

No, but seriously. People are taught not to question the doctrines of any denomination when you decide to join with them. And when you accept the teaching of a particle sect or tradition so as to identify yourself as such, it is required that you hold with them to their teaching.
If you publicly repudiate something, you will be repudiated, and your patronage withdrawn.

When you tell people they need to proselytize somewhere else, it means you have accepted whatever sect or tradition you identify with and everyone else is wrong.

Well, no. It means that you are wrong. And not just mistaken. Wrong.

 

[LeviR]

Well, no. It means that you are wrong. And not just mistaken. Wrong.

If the wording of your doctrines were found in Scripture we could talk about them. But they’re not.

 

[Mr GLee]

God is like a tree standing tall, and we are the shadow(image) of that tree cast on the ground. The shadow resembles the tree’s appearance but is dark. The light shines only on the tree.

God is Spirit it cast no shadow.

 

[LeviR]

God is Spirit it cast no shadow.

I’m not influenced by Plato.

 

[Mr GLee]

I’m not influenced by Plato.

What does he have to do with it?

 

[LeviR]

I’m not influenced by Plato.

The philosophers changed the meaning of the word “image”. Check it out. Your idea doesn’t conform with scripture or today.
Take at look at your image in the mirror. What do you see. How you have dominance over the earth?

 

[LeviR]

What does he have to do with it?

If you had any interest you’d do some reseach to find that the RCC not only added Thier own ideas to scripture but also changed the meaning of the words to suit their ideas.

 

[LeviR]

Gen 5:3
And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

Check the scripture instead of whatever you read.

 

[Mr GLee]

If you had any interest you’d do some reseach to find that the RCC not only added Thier own ideas to scripture but also changed the meaning of the words to suit their ideas.

I have and yes they changed meanings to make room for patrons saints disembodied spirit gods

 

[Mr GLee]

The philosophers changed the meaning of the word “image”. Check it out. Your idea doesn’t conform with scripture or today.
Take at look at your image in the mirror. What do you see. How you have dominance over the earth?

Yes changed to likeness of men the mirror image

Acts14: 11 And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men. And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.

 

[Red Baker]

Let us make man in our IMAGE~​

I fully agree with Calvin, who said:

"Spiritual regeneration is nothing else than the restoration of the same image. (Colossians 3:10, and Ephesians 4:23.) That he made this image to consist in righteousness and true holiness, is by the figure synecdochee ; for though this is the chief part, it is not the whole of God’s image. Therefore by this word the perfection of our whole nature is designated, as it appeared when Adam was endued with a right judgment, had affections in harmony with reason, had all his senses sound and well-regulated, and truly excelled in everything good. Thus the chief seat of the Divine image was in his mind and heart, where it was eminent: yet was there no part of him in which some scintillations of it did not shine forth."

 

[makesends]

Let us make man in our IMAGE~​

I fully agree with Calvin, who said:

"Spiritual regeneration is nothing else than the restoration of the same image. (Colossians 3:10, and Ephesians 4:23.) That he made this image to consist in righteousness and true holiness, is by the figure synecdochee ; for though this is the chief part, it is not the whole of God’s image. Therefore by this word the perfection of our whole nature is designated, as it appeared when Adam was endued with a right judgment, had affections in harmony with reason, had all his senses sound and well-regulated, and truly excelled in everything good. Thus the chief seat of the Divine image was in his mind and heart, where it was eminent: yet was there no part of him in which some scintillations of it did not shine forth."

While that sounds reasonable, to consider what Calvin describes there to be THE reference of "made in the image of God", is a bit much for me. I tend to shrink away from sure statements about things the Bible doesn't say.

 

[Red Baker]

While that sounds reasonable, to consider what Calvin describes there to be THE reference of "made in the image of God", is a bit much for me. I tend to shrink away from sure statements about things the Bible doesn't say.

Even before I ever read Calvin on this, I believed the same based upon what happens when we are created after the image of Jesus Christ, when we are born again.

Ephesians 4:24​

“And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”

Colossians 3:10​

“And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:”

The image of God can be summed up in four words: righteousness, knowledge, understanding, and true wisdom. This Adam lost when he disobeyed God; and he passed down his fallen nature to his seed after him. A nature void of righteousness, understanding, knowledge, and true wisdom.

Genesis 5:3​

“And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:”

 

[makesends]

Even before I ever read Calvin on this, I believed the same based upon what happens when we are created after the image of Jesus Christ, when we are born again.

Ephesians 4:24​

“And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”

Colossians 3:10​

“And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:”

The image of God can be summed up in four words: righteousness, knowledge, understanding, and true wisdom. This Adam lost when he disobeyed God; and he passed down his fallen nature to his seed after him. A nature void of righteousness, understanding, knowledge, and true wisdom.

Genesis 5:3​

“And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:”

The reasoning may be excellent, and there may be many hints...

 

[JIM]

Let us make man in our IMAGE~​

I fully agree with Calvin, who said:

"Spiritual regeneration is nothing else than the restoration of the same image. (Colossians 3:10, and Ephesians 4:23.) That he made this image to consist in righteousness and true holiness, is by the figure synecdochee ; for though this is the chief part, it is not the whole of God’s image. Therefore by this word the perfection of our whole nature is designated, as it appeared when Adam was endued with a right judgment, had affections in harmony with reason, had all his senses sound and well-regulated, and truly excelled in everything good. Thus the chief seat of the Divine image was in his mind and heart, where it was eminent: yet was there no part of him in which some scintillations of it did not shine forth."

Restore means to bring back to the original condition. I agree that regeneration of a person is the restoration of the spirit of that person back to its original condition as formed by God in each person at some point in the conception and birth process. I am a bit surprised that you would agree with that, given that you think its original condition is dead in Adam's sin.