Jesus is Jehovah the YHWH of the Old Testament

[Mr GLee]

See post 90.

Two kinds of Jesus's (saviors )

One invisible Spirit, Christ (as Jehovah Emanuel) the anointing teaching Holy Spirit.

He worked in Jesus the Son of man o display the invisible power of God the Holy Father

Lord Jesus (savior) Christ the invisible head #1

Not jesus the Son of man, being which saved (born again) #2

Acts 7 :59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, (not the Son of man. )and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

In that way from the fall its the goal of the father of lies (I will be like eternal God) In order to deceive dying mankind that eternal God without beginning of days or end of Spirit life is a dying Jewish man as King of kings .

 

[Fred]

Two kinds of Jesus's (saviors )

Once I saw the above, I knew not to read more of your rambling mess.

Stephen identified Jesus as being the Son of Man (Acta 7:56) and later on prayed to Him (Acts 7:59-60).

Thanks for making it so easy for me to refute your false doctrine.

 

[Mr GLee]

Once I saw the above, I knew not to read more of your rambling mess.

Stephen identified Jesus as being the Son of Man (Acta 7:56) and later on prayed to Him (Acts 7:59-60).

Thanks for making it so easy for me to refute your false doctrine.

Thanks for reply

Yes, Christ the unseen head our husband he did give living words to the Son of man Jesus the apostle/ prophet that he preached to Thomas .

His words (not of the prophet Jesus ) Lovingly commanded Thomas a faithless unbeliever to stop being faithless (powerless) but rather he breathed on Thomas just as the other 11. . . the breath of new born again spirit life.

Then as a prophet Thomas spoke the living words an confirmation from the Father . By Thomas mouth he confess with his lips . . again not his own thoughts as a will , my Lord and my God (unseen)

John20: 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

He was not giving Thomas his approval to touch and then see. Sign and wonder seekers. Those who made Jesus into a circus seal. . . do a trick work some miracle then and not before we will believe ( the 5 minutes ashiest rule) . . . no faith as it is written alone

We walk or understand God not seen by faith the unseen power, the spiritual things of Christ .. . . faith to faith

In that way God who is not served by the dying hands of mankind .

Christ Can use a Ass as an apostle with the living words prophecy it stopped the madness of the false apostle prophet Balaam.

We must be careful how we hear or say who we hear .

 

[Fred]

Thanks for reply

Yes, Christ the unseen head our husband he did give living words to the Son of man Jesus

Christ is the Son of Man.

Matthew 16:13, 16
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of Man am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

 

[Runningman]

Ephesians 5:19 and Revelation 5:9 are still in the Bible.

They will always belong there.

yes they are and that isn't the point. I agree with the Bible and want to keep Ephesians 5:19 and Revelation 5:9 there. Your presentation of them is the problem.

 

[Fred]

Your presentation of them is the problem.

Wow!
Such a detailed analysis with very specific proof that backs it up!

 

[Mr GLee]

Christ is the Son of Man.

Matthew 16:13, 16
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of Man am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

I would offer.. .
Peter then as one of the many antichrsits (another teaching authroity other than sola scriptura) The antichrist. Satan the father of lies he gave his lying words to the false prophet Peter .Peter rebuking our unseen head and forbid the Son of man Jesus from doing the will of the Father.

Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man Jesus (dying flesh and blood).

That 33 year window of opportunity was over when the Son of man left .Blasphemy against the unseen Holy Father no forgiveness . . cutting of ones foot from it

Mathew 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men

Blasphemy today no forgiveness

The goal of Satan deceive al the nations of the world God is a Jewish man as King of kings .His goal from the beginning. .Look at my beaty and live forever. You shall not surely die

God is not a man.

 

[Fred]

Look at my beaty and live forever.

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[Mr GLee]

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The serpent Lucifer the most beautiful creature in the garden. That was before his legs were cut off and could no longer walk in a agreement

Some say like the deep sea creature luminating dark. . like the forth of July lighting glow in the dark bug

Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy tabrets the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Genesis 3:3-4 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

 

[Runningman]

Wow!
Such a detailed analysis with very specific proof that backs it up!

You're making my argument for me. By not quoting verses that don't actually say what you claim they do is my point.

 

[Fred]

You're making my argument for me. By not quoting verses that don't actually say what you claim they do is my point.

https://christcentered.community.forum/threads/jesus-is-jehovah-the-yhwh-of-the-old-testament.1719/page-4#post-80592

 

[Fred]

God is not a man.

Jesus is the Son of Man (Acts 7:56) and this is linked with Him being the proper recipient of prayer which proves He is God (Acts 7:59-60).

 

[Mr GLee]

Jesus is the Son of Man (Acts 7:56) and this is linked with Him being the proper recipient of prayer which proves He is God (Acts 7:59-60).

Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

My Paraphrase And said, Behold, I see a vison as a wonder a dream not literal flesh and blood the heavens opened, and the vision Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Corrupted dying Flesh and blood could never enter the new in corruptible order

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

God is not a man as us.

He is making America great again (LOL)

 

[Fred]

Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

My Paraphrase And said, Behold, I see a vison as a wonder a dream not literal flesh and blood the heavens opened, and the vision Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

A vision doesn't detract at all from the reality that Jesus is the Son of Man.

Paul first saw the Lord Jesus in a vision, and yet this constituted that he did in fact see Jesus (Acts 9:27).

 

[Runningman]

https://christcentered.community.forum/threads/jesus-is-jehovah-the-yhwh-of-the-old-testament.1719/page-4#post-80592

So according to your bad reasoning, if you aren't singing in your heart to Jesus then you aren't praying? Do you sing all of your prayers in your heart?

 

[Fred]

So according to your bad reasoning, if you aren't singing in your heart to Jesus then you aren't praying?

You still have to admit that your false doctrine is wrong. You asserted, "There is no Biblical example of singing to Jesus" in post 14 which was demolished in post 15.

https://christcentered.community.forum/threads/rendering-prayer-is-a-sacrifice.1793/#post-75677

 

[Runningman]

You still have to admit that your false doctrine is wrong. You asserted, "There is no Biblical example of singing to Jesus" in post 14 which was demolished in post 15.

https://christcentered.community.forum/threads/rendering-prayer-is-a-sacrifice.1793/#post-75677

There is nothing about prayer to Jesus in any of the verses you quoted. You must admit that what you are saying is not in Scripture. And you still did not answer my question.

 

[Fred]

There is nothing about prayer to Jesus in any of the verses you quoted. You must admit that what you are saying is not in Scripture.

You are still dodging your huge error.

 

[Runningman]

You are still dodging your huge error.

You are dodging the fact that your assertion is not in the Bible.

 

[Fred]

You are dodging the fact that your assertion is not in the Bible.

Thanks for making it easy for me to refute your outlandish assertion.