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More proof Jesus isn't God.I think you mean unless the father draws them. And no one can come to the father except… What reason would you guess?
More proof Jesus isn't God.I think you mean unless the father draws them. And no one can come to the father except… What reason would you guess?
Thank you, but that isn't exactly what the Bible says. The Bible calls him the "image of God" a man with the "fullness of God" the "representation of his being/person/nature" but not himself God. There are too many things to the contrary to believe otherwise.
Never mind the fact that worshipping a man as though he is God is idolatry. He could do nothing of himself, got his power and authority from the Father, prayed to God, worshipped God, served God, died for God, was resurrected by God, never claimed to be God, and denied being God.
Someone doesn't claim to be God and directly denies being God isn't God.
That's a pretty far stretch. Joining with someone in spirit doesn't mean their is prayer involved or it would require praying to each other. That's idolatry again. Jesus directly taught to pray to the Father in Matt 6:6,9Being joined to the Lord entails praying to the Lord.
I would offer. .And yet Jesus gives eternal life. More evidence that He is God.
That's a pretty far stretch.
Thank you, but that isn't exactly what the Bible says. The Bible calls him the "image of God" a man with the "fullness of God" the "representation of his being/person/nature" but not himself God. There are too many things to the contrary to believe otherwise.Okay, so, Jesus is like the ultimate savior, not just God's representative, but actually like God Himself.Jjust check out Colossians 1:19 and John 1:1–2, 14–18. It's all there. Jesus is like this perfect picture of God, and at the same time, He's God for real. It's wild, right? The Son is like this clear window into the invisible God. He shows us what God's all about, His power, wisdom, and goodness, everything that makes Him who He is. It's pretty awesome, if you ask me.
And as the last part of the text says, the entire Godhead dwells in him, so yes, he certainly can and did have a hand in creating everything.
Jesus directly taught praying to the Father in Matt 6:6,9. That isn't heresy. The only heresy is yours that says otherwise. You have been searching far and wide for any reason to pray to someone else. I am happy for you. The longer you keep searching the more likely you are to finally just believe Matt 6:6,9Not when it is compared how the word is used elsewhere in Scripture in reference to YHWH.
You ignored the passages I supplied because it refutes your heresy.
Jesus directly taught praying to the Father in Matt 6:6,9. That isn't heresy. The only heresy is yours that says otherwise. You have been searching far and wide for any reason to pray to someone else. I am happy for you. The longer you keep searching the more likely you are to finally just believe Matt 6:6,9
It's because the words Jesus spoke were the words God the Father gave him. God's words lead to eternal life and Jesus gave them the words of eternal life.And yet Jesus gives eternal life. More evidence that He is God.
It would seem your bone to pick is with God and Jesus. Perhaps you should just believe the instructions Jesus gave for prayer in Matt 6:6,9 where he explicitly and directly taught his disciples to pray to the Father. He never told them to "pray to Jesus." No one in the Bible ever prayed to Jesus.Dodge.
Typical.
1 Corinthians 6:17 is still there.
It would seem your bone to pick is with God
Being one with each other in spirit doesn't imply prayer to each other. The disciples didn't pray to each other when they were united in spirit with each other.God loves 1 Corinthians 6:17.
Being one with each other in spirit doesn't imply prayer to each other.
Jesus isn't God though. He said only pray to the Father (the only true God per John 17:3) in Matt 6:6,9It does in reference to the Lord.
Thanks for making this easy for me.
Jesus isn't God though. He said only pray to the Father (the only true God per John 17:3) in Matt 6:6,9
Yes and that's great. There are still a lot of other verses in the Bible too. What's your point?1 Corinthians 6:17 is still in the Bible though.
Yes and that's great. There are still a lot of other verses in the Bible too. What's your point?
This isn't going away. Thank God.They don't contradict 1 Corinthians 6:17.
You do.
He did have a hand in demonstration of the (Unseen ) lamb of God slain from the foundation the six days he did work the promised bloody demonstration thousands of years later.Okay, so, Jesus is like the ultimate savior, not just God's representative, but actually like God Himself.Jjust check out Colossians 1:19 and John 1:1–2, 14–18. It's all there. Jesus is like this perfect picture of God, and at the same time, He's God for real. It's wild, right? The Son is like this clear window into the invisible God. He shows us what God's all about, His power, wisdom, and goodness, everything that makes Him who He is. It's pretty awesome, if you ask me.
And as the last part of the text says, the entire Godhead dwells in him, so yes, he certainly can and did have a hand in creating everything.
This isn't going away. Thank God.
John 17
21that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.