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James White

Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13) one faith (eph 4:5) the faith delivered to the apostles (Jude 1:3)
OS (ostrich syndrome)
 
Millions.

Anyone who wants to, files the right papers, and gets the proper permits. Your question needs to be more specific.

But who gives the Catholic church the authority to say they are the only true church? And who gives them the authority to be the only interpreter of scripture. And who gave the pope the authority to be called Holy Father, or the priests to intercede in the place of Christ?

And don't just list a bunch of scripture references. The authority of the Catholic church to give a meaning to them that is beneficial to them and no one else has not been established.
Only one! Jn 10:16 Only Christ! Matt 16:18
 
The new covenant church!

Prophecy of the new covenant and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5 (the church is the new Jerusalem the kingdom) gal 4:26 (one church) Jn 10:16

Dan 2: 44 And in the days of these kings (Roman Caesars) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Micah 4:1
But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

Daniel 6:26
I make a decree, That in every dominion of my kingdom men tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: for he is the living God, and stedfast for ever, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed, and his dominion shall be even unto the end.

Daniel 7:14
And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Daniel 7:18
But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

Matt 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
 
No Christian has the authority to read scripture for yourself and decide your own doctrines or beliefs!
To which I replied: :poop: Hilarious
To which you replied:
Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3
You're statement is hypocritical/contradictory. You can't say:
No Christian has the authority to read scripture for yourself and decide your own doctrines or beliefs!
... and then quote scripture to me to justify your viewpoint. Your beliefs, according to your quote are not based on scripture; rather, they are based on the teaching of apostles (probably the RC church)
saints must submit to the teaching of the apostles
Do you beliefs come from the bible or your RC church? If the later and not the former, don't quote scriptures to me as that is hypocritical.

... or maybe you're an apostle and can get your beliefs from scripture :unsure:
 
To which I replied: :poop: Hilarious
To which you replied:

You're statement is hypocritical/contradictory. You can't say:

... and then quote scripture to me to justify your viewpoint. Your beliefs, according to your quote are not based on scripture; rather, they are based on the teaching of apostles (probably the RC church)

Do you beliefs come from the bible or your RC church? If the later and not the former, don't quote scriptures to me as that is hypocritical.

... or maybe you're an apostle and can get your beliefs from scripture :unsure:
No misunderstand, I did not say don’t read or quote scripture, I said no one has any authority to read scripture and (all important and) make up your own doctrine or faith, cos there is only one faith and it must be revealed by Christ and taught to us by the apostolic church! Matt 28:19
In other words it can’t be that I hit “my faith”, you got “your faith”, they got “their faith”!

There is only faith for all!
 
Also only one church!

Christ and His church are one unity! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32
 
To his apostolic church? Yes!
We must be taught!

Apostolic church?

What would messengers of Gods living abiding word called apostles have to do with a "Christ" centered church? Why centered on Peter and Mary our brother and sister in the Lord?

Why seek after succession dying mankind?

Christ in us working with us the hope of His glory

2 Corinthians 1:21Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;

Follow Christ our Holy Father He is the key the gates of hell could never prevail against .

Not Peter our brother in the lord .For a lesson to us. He learned the lesson of faith the hard way .Not looking to the eternal unseen things of God but to his own self in selfish false pride ..temporal dying mankind .

Call no man on earth Holy Father, Holy See

Mathew 16 22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Follow Christ the invisible the head of the church. ( his eternal bide),
 
No misunderstand, I did not say don’t read or quote scripture, I said no one has any authority to read scripture and (all important and) make up your own doctrine or faith, cos there is only one faith and it must be revealed by Christ and taught to us by the apostolic church! Matt 28:19
In other words it can’t be that I hit “my faith”, you got “your faith”, they got “their faith”!

There is only faith for all!
Yes one faith.The eternal faith of our faithful Creator. "let there be" and it was "God alone good"

Taught by Christ not the messengers. They preach planting the incorruptible born again seed another waters it with the doctrines that fall like rain But God alone is the one good teaching master not seen . Sola scriptura the sword of the Spirit. It cuts away the oral tractions of dying mankind

The same spirit of faith that works in all born again from above

2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

One Spirit working in all the denominations
 
No misunderstand, I did not say don’t read or quote scripture, I said no one has any authority to read scripture and (all important and) make up your own doctrine or faith, cos there is only one faith and it must be revealed by Christ and taught to us by the apostolic church! Matt 28:19
In other words it can’t be that I hit “my faith”, you got “your faith”, they got “their faith”!

There is only faith for all!
The Catholic church is not the apostolic church. It is the apostate church.
 
Also only one church!

Christ and His church are one unity! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32
Who is the invisible head ? Limbo unity . . for all except the queen of heaven some call Mary, named after our blessed sister in the Lord Mary ?

The "she head". . female Divine deity ? And not our unseen Holy Father that lives in those yoked with His love? What role does he have in salvation?

The loving commandment as a warning . .call no man on earth Holy Father, Holy See, our vicar Christ , the chief supreme apostle, our holiness, Papa e.t.c .
 
Yes one faith.The eternal faith of our faithful Creator. "let there be" and it was "God alone good"

Taught by Christ not the messengers. They preach planting the incorruptible born again seed another waters it with the doctrines that fall like rain But God alone is the one good teaching master not seen . Sola scriptura the sword of the Spirit. It cuts away the oral tractions of dying mankind

The same spirit of faith that works in all born again from above

2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

One Spirit working in all the denominations
Lk 10:16 Matt 28:19
 
The Catholic church is not the apostolic church. It is the apostate church.
The church must be:
One:
Holy:
Catholic:
And apostolic:

There is only one possible church!

The one founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles
 
Who is the invisible head ? Limbo unity . . for all except the queen of heaven some call Mary, named after our blessed sister in the Lord Mary ?

The "she head". . female Divine deity ? And not our unseen Holy Father that lives in those yoked with His love? What role does he have in salvation?

The loving commandment as a warning . .call no man on earth Holy Father, Holy See, our vicar Christ , the chief supreme apostle, our holiness, Papa e.t.c .
Jn 4:20
 
Hi Thanks. .It's not a manner of where? . Wherever we go there we are. Closets work fine . But what does matter is whose Holy Spirit do we worship or venerate?

Do we worship our one unseen Holy Father in heaven or a Holy Father on earth. Can't be two Holy fathers as one God . earthly or heavenly ?. Which teaching maser today dying mankind or eternal God?

Mate 6:9-11 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread.(sola scriptura the living word of God )
 
Hi Thanks. .It's not a manner of where? . Wherever we go there we are. Closets work fine . But what does matter is whose Holy Spirit do we worship or venerate?

Do we worship our one unseen Holy Father in heaven or a Holy Father on earth. Can't be two Holy fathers as one God . earthly or heavenly ?. Which teaching maser today dying mankind or eternal God?

Mate 6:9-11 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread.(sola scriptura the living word of God )
She is calling men father???
 
Matt 16:18 Jn 10:16
How many do you see?

Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

“It” singular or one!

One:
Holy:
Catholic:
And apostolic:

One shepherd one flock! Amen!
 
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