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Irresistible Grace in Sanctification?

We are sanctified by obedience in the Holy Spirit, which leads to righteousness leading to holiness (Ro 6:16, 19, 22).
According to these verses then, which is it our works of obedience or the fruit of the spirit?
 
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According to these verses the , which is it our works of obedience or the fruit of the spirit?
The Spirit give us to will and to obey (Php 2;13), which sanctifies.

The Spirit gives us eternal life (Jn 3:3-8), which believes.
 
The Spirit give us to will and to obey (Php 2;13), which sanctifies.

The Spirit gives us eternal life (Jn 3:3-8), which believes.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
 
The Spirit give us to will and to obey (Php 2;13), which sanctifies.

The Spirit gives us eternal life (Jn 3:3-8), which believes.
The Spirit sanctifies. Not works
 
Exegete Ro 6:16-22 for me, would you?
Sure, and would you with,
1 Cor 1:29-31
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Phil 2:12-13

Keep in mind, good works are not the same thing as sanctification. Sanctification is something God does to you, and in you. He is conforming you to the image of Jesus.

Good works are something WE do, but they are only the result of God's work -- part of the outworking of the sanctification of the Spirit. You do not sanctify yourself (even partly): That is the work of the Spirit and His work alone. Our working and obeying is not an effectual cause of our sanctification. We don't make ourselves Holy. If sanctification were synergistic we would literally be contributing a portion of the grace and power which sanctifies us. This would mean we would (at least partly) sanctify ourselves, while the Holy Spirit does the rest.

Monergism
 
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Exegete Ro 6:16-22 for me, would you?
Consider this for now.

We have been set free from the power of sin. Before we were slaves to sin. And since we have been set free from the power of sin (sanctified, set apart for God) we should use this freedom to stop sinning. Again, good works are not the same thing as sanctification. Working out our salvation with fear and trembling is doing this. We are sanctified, use this freedom to work out our salvation, with fear and trembling because God sees all, He rewards and chastens.

Since we are sanctified “in Christ” our good works are the fruit of the spirit.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

And our good works are no more the cause of our sanctification as they are the cause of our salvation.

In the end, we have nothing to boast in.
 
Exegete Ro 6:16-22 for me, would you?

B. The believer under grace and the problem of occasional sin.​

1. (Romans 6:15) A new question is asked: shall we sin (occasionally) because we are not under law but under grace?

What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!

a. Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Paul has convinced us that a lifestyle of habitual sin is not compatible with one whose life is changed by grace. But what about an occasional sin here and there? If we are under grace and not law, must we be so concerned about a little sin here and there?​
b. Shall we sin: Again, the verb tense of the ancient Greek word sin is important (the aorist active tense). It indicates dabbling in sin, not the continual habitual sin described in the question of Romans 6:1.​
i. “The verb in verse one is in the present subjunctive, speaking of habitual, continuous action. The verb in verse fifteen is in the aorist subjunctive, referring to a single act.” (Wuest)​

2. (Romans 6:16-17) Spiritual principles we need to understand in order to answer the question.

Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered.

a. To whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves: Whatever you present yourself to obey, you become its slave. For example, if I obey my appetite constantly, I am a slave to it. So we have a choice in our slavery: sin leading to death or obedience leading to righteousness.​
i. One way or another, we will serve somebody. The option to live our life without serving either sin or obedience isn’t open to us.​
b. Though you were slaves of sin: Paul puts it in the past tense because we have been freed from our slavery to sin. He also says that we have been set free by faith, which he describes as obedience from the heart. The faith is put in God’s Word, which he describes as that form of doctrine. All in all, the point is clear: “You put your faith in God and His Word, and now you are set free. Now live every day consistent with that freedom.”​
i. As was seen earlier in Romans 6, we can be legally free and still choose to live like a prisoner. Paul has a simple command and encouragement for the Christian: be what you are.​
ii. Obeyed from the heart is a wonderful description of faith. It shows that faith comes from the heart, not only the mind. It shows that faith results in obedience because if we really believe something, we will act according to that belief.​
c. That form of doctrine: This phrase is part of a beautiful picture. The word form describes a mold used to shape molten metal. The idea is that God wants to shape us — first He melts us by the work of the Holy Spirit and the Word of God. Then He pours us into His mold of truth — that form of doctrine and shapes us into His image.​
i. Adam Clarke on that form of doctrine: “Here Christianity is represented under the notion of a mould, or die, into which they were cast, and from which they took the impression of its excellence. The figure upon this die is the image of God, righteousness and true holiness, which was stamped on their souls in believing the Gospel and receiving the Holy Ghost. The words... refer to the melting of metal, which, when it is liquefied, is cast into the mould, that it may receive the impression that is sunk or cut in the mould; and therefore the words may be literally translated, into which mould of doctrine ye have been cast. They were melted down under the preaching of the word, and then were capable of receiving the stamp of its purity.”​

3. (Romans 6:18) Why not then, occasionally sin? Because sin is not our master, and we no longer serve it.

And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.

a. Having been set free from sin: What does it mean to be free from sin and to become a slave of righteousness? It means that sin is no longer your boss or your master. Now righteousness is your boss, so serve righteousness instead of sin. It isn’t right to think about pleasing your old boss when you change jobs.​
b. Slaves of righteousness: What does it mean to be a slave? A slave was more than an employee. The noted Greek scholar Kenneth Wuest defined the ancient Greek word for a slave here by these terms:​
  • One born into a condition of slavery.
  • One whose will is swallowed up in the will of another.
  • One who is bound to the master with bonds only death can break.
  • One who serves his master to the disregard of his own interests.
i. The following was once true in regard to our slavery to sin:​
  • We were born as slaves to sin.
  • Our will was swallowed up and captive to sin within us.
  • Our bondage to sin was so strong that only death — spiritually dying with Jesus on the cross — could break the bondage.
  • We were so enslaved to sin that we served it to the disregard of our own interest, even when sin destroyed us.
ii. Now the following is true in regard to our slavery to righteousness:​
  • We are born again, now as slaves to righteousness.
  • Our will is now swallowed up in the will of God. It is His will that matters to us, not our own.
  • We are bound to Jesus with bonds that only death can break; but since He has triumphed over death and given us eternal life, those bonds will never be broken!
  • We now willingly choose serve Jesus to the disregard of our own (selfish) interests.
c. Set free from sin: This means that we never have to sin again. Though sin is inevitable until our flesh is resurrected in glory, it isn’t because God has designed a system by which we must sin.​
i. Sinless perfection in this body is an illusion. 1 John 1:8 makes this clear: If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. Yet we know that in the power of Jesus we each can resist the next temptation — and that is what Jesus wants us to be concerned with.​
ii. “Because of the frailty of man, the Christian at infrequent intervals does yield to the evil nature and sin. But the point is, God has so constituted him, that he need not do so.” (Wuest)​
iii. It is mockery to tell a slave, “Don’t behave as a slave” — but you can say that to someone who is set free. Jesus Christ tells us to no longer behave as if we were slaves to sin. We have been set free; now we are to think and live as free people.​


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4. (Romans 6:19-23) How to keep from enslaving ourselves.

I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

a. I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh: The Apostle Paul apologized for using slavery as an illustration, because it was so degrading and pervasive, and especially because many of his Roman readers were slaves. Yet he knew this was an accurate and meaningful illustration.​
b. You presented your members... so now present: Paul repeats a point made earlier. First, present your members as slaves of righteousness. This means that we don’t show up for work to our old boss.​
i. Can you imagine? A new job, and the first day on the new job you leave work at lunch time and go to your old job and ask your old boss what he wants you to do. It just isn’t right!​
c. Lawlessness leading to more lawlessness: Paul describes a principle ingrained in human nature. Lawlessness leads to more lawlessness. Righteousness leads to holiness — which is more righteousness. This describes the dynamic power of our habits and how we move along in the direction we are pointed.​
i. Think of four trees in a row: the first at one year of growth, the second at five years, the third at ten years, and the last at 15 years. Which tree will be the most difficult to pull up out of the ground? Obviously, the longer we are rooted in a behavior the harder it is to uproot it — a principle that works both for good and evil.​
d. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness: Paul’s point is almost humorous. When we were slaves of sin, we were free all right — free in regard to righteousness. Some freedom!​
e. What fruit did you have then: To walk in victory over sin we must think rightly about the fruit of sin. To say, “The end of those things is death” means that the end product of sin is death — not fun. But the end product of righteousness is everlasting life.​
i. In a time of temptation, these truths can seem unreal — so we must rely on God’s Word. When we are tempted, faith reminds us of the bitter fruit of sin when our feelings may forget that bitter fruit.​
f. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord: When you work for sin, your wages are death. When we serve God we get no pay — but He freely gives us the best benefit package imaginable.​
i. Wages of sin: “Every sinner earns this by long, sore, and painful service. O! What pains do men take to get to hell! Early and late they toil at sin; and would not Divine justice be in their debt, if it did not pay them their due wages?” (Clarke)​
ii. Answering his question from Romans 6:15, Paul has made it clear: As believers, we have a change of ownership. The Christian must fight against even occasional sin because we need to work for and work under our new Master. It isn’t appropriate for us to work for our old master.​

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B. The believer under grace and the problem of occasional sin.​

1. (Romans 6:15) A new question is asked: shall we sin (occasionally) because we are not under law but under grace?
What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!
a. Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Paul has convinced us that a lifestyle of habitual sin is not compatible with one whose life is changed by grace. But what about an occasional sin here and there? If we are under grace and not law, must we be so concerned about a little sin here and there?​
b. Shall we sin: Again, the verb tense of the ancient Greek word sin is important (the aorist active tense). It indicates dabbling in sin, not the continual habitual sin described in the question of Romans 6:1.​
i. “The verb in verse one is in the present subjunctive, speaking of habitual, continuous action. The verb in verse fifteen is in the aorist subjunctive, referring to a single act.” (Wuest)​
2. (Romans 6:16-17) Spiritual principles we need to understand in order to answer the question.
Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered.
a. To whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves: Whatever you present yourself to obey, you become its slave. For example, if I obey my appetite constantly, I am a slave to it. So we have a choice in our slavery: sin leading to death or obedience leading to righteousness.
Thanks.

This is what I want explained.
 
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First let's define "Irresistible Grace" (IG), because that term simply means God accomplishes what He sets out to accomplish with His grace. IG does not mean humans cannot resist God. IG is not "puppet theology."
Hhmmm. Irresistible grace is taught in scripture as far as God saving His people. And those He chose to save, are (will be) irresistibly saved. You are correct it is not puppet theology.
So, yes, God accomplishes all the sanctification He intends.
I wonder some times if people actually understand what sanctification is.
 
Why? God could easily use the regenerates freed will to accomplish an abundance of sanctification He chooses not to accomplish in the unregenerate.
But wouldn't that make it synergistic?
Why does what I posted sound like puppet theology to you?
Do you believe sanctification is synergistic? Just want to make sure I understand you correctly.
 
Thank you, but when one adds this...

Matthew 11:29 NASB95
Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS.

...it sounds a bit synergistic
Things aint always as they sound.
 
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We are sanctified by obedience in the Holy Spirit, which leads to righteousness leading to holiness (Ro 6:16, 19, 22).
Then we are sanctified by works.

Sorry sister, I had to comment on this again.

I hope you see things differently now?
 
Again, Irresistible Grace has nothing to do with whether or not the one being saved can or cannot resist. The Irresistible has to do with God accomplishing His purpose or work with the grace He asserts. Everything to do with God. Nothing to do with human. It is a common misconception to think irresistible grace has something to do with whether or not the human can resist God's grace but that is not what IG is about.
Well once God regenerates we have a new nature. Once we have this new nature, it's irresistible, we will not desire and practice sin.
 
The Spirit give us to will and to obey (Php 2;13), which sanctifies.
Our new nature gives us the will, and desire to obey. The Spirit sanctifies.
The Spirit gives us eternal life (Jn 3:3-8), which believes.
The Spirit gives us a new nature, which comes with the gift of faith.
 
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