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Rella said:
I also have a wee problem between the creation account in Genesis 1 and that in Genesis 2.
And you said ...Such as???
Little off topic but have you ever heard of the planet Rahab?
No I never did.... Something new to check out.
As to my issues between Genesis 1 and 2 I will TRY to be as brief as I can
Genesis 1 from the NASB95 verse 1-
1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2, The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.
3. Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
4, God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness.
5.
God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning,
one day.
6.Then God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.”
7. God made the expanse, and separated the waters which were below the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse; and it was so.
8. God called the expanse heaven. And there was evening and there was morning,
a second day.
9. Then God said, “Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear"; and it was so.
10. God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas; and God saw that it was good.
11. Then God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation: plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them"; and it was so.
(This is important. God had vegetation growing on the Earth plants and trees with seeds on day 3)( If you are a regional person or w who earth person this was day three in Gen 1.)
12. The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good.
( They were growing at this point, though a case could be made that God planted them ready for whatever)
13. There was evening and there was morning, a third day.
14. Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years;
(This is important. God said lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, And in verse 5 He called the light day, and the darkness He called night.... So we have lights separating day from night in day 1 and we have lights separating day from night in day 4. Not that it is important but a great Trivia thought. And between these days of created light we have growing vegetation.)
15. and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so.
16.God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also.
17. God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth,
18. and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good.
19. There was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.
20. Then God said, “Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens.”
21. God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind; and God saw that it was good.
22. God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.”
23. There was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.
( Note: day five was creation of living things in the waters and living things in the air)
24. Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind"; and it was so.
25. God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good.
(Note: life is continued to be made and placed on earth. )
26. Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
27. God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
(Important: When God said Let us make man in pour image he said to let them
Important: When God created man in His image he made them male and female and they were created together)
28God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
(Important: THEY were told to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth)
29.And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.
(important.... this verse says the man and woman that God created are allowed to eat every herb, and every fruit.)
And now onto genesis 2
1.Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts.
2. By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
3. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
4. This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven.
(Side Note: in the day? KJV says These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, Generations? Day? as in singular day? )
5. Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.
(Note, Gen 1 has light on day 1 and vegetation on day 3 along with the mention of waters below having been separated so there would be dry land)
6. But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground.
(Yet we do get a watering system at this point)
7. Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
(Important: single man is made and God breathed life into him. There is no woman)
8. The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed.
(Not “Let the earth sprout vegetation: plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them";
Not " earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind;
Not" Male and female who were told “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
Just the man, who God breathed life into after He formed him who God placed in the Garden.)
9. Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
10. Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden; and from there it divided and became four rivers.
11. The name of the first is Pishon; it flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold.
12. The gold of that land is good; the bdellium and the onyx stone are there.
13. The name of the second river is Gihon; it flows around the whole land of Cush.
14. The name of the third river is Tigris; it flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.
15.Then the LORD God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it.
(NOTE: The man who God breathed life into was put into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it
He was not told to fill the earth.)
16 The LORD God commanded the man, saying, “From any tree of the garden you may eat freely;
17. but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”
(Now go back up to Gen 1 vs 29 and read what God told those man and woman. They are permitted to eat every tree.)
18. Then the LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him.”
19.Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name.
(These animals were formed after Adam was formed and in the garden so he could find a helper.
No woman was thought of, yet.)
And since I dont know if I am out of room yet I will stop with the scripture posting right now.
It is obvious to me that The people God made in Gen were made man and woman and were to populate the eart.
It is obvious to me that initially Adam was not to have a mate, but an animal helper.
It is obvious to me that the people in Gen 1 were allowed to eat from every tree.
It is obvious to me that since Adam was not allowed to that the entire Garden of Eden , Adam,
and eventually Eve had a reason to come into being aside from the man in woman in Gen 1
It is obvious to me, if we trust the Holy Bible, Ada was not the first man. He may have been the first with a soul
but not the first.
