Free Gift of Justification

[donadams]

Repeat no mention of how a sinner is justified before God. Paul said it's either by Grace or Works, but it cannot be both.

Most people who oppose catholic dogma actually believe about 90 Percent!

Dogma / De Fide or “thee faith” (found 31 times in the New Testament) Eph 5:4 Jude 1:3

Truths revealed by Christ, taught by His apostolic church! (Matt 28:19)
(The rule of faith)

The faith that binds all Christians! Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18

109. There is a supernatural intervention of God in the faculties of the soul, which precedes the free act of the will.
110. There is a supernatural influence of God in the faculties of the soul which coincides in time with man’s free act of will.
111. For every salutary act internal supernatural grace of God (gratia elevans) is absolutely necessary.
112. Internal supernatural grace is absolutely necessary for the beginning of faith and of salvation.
113. Without the special help of God the justified cannot persevere to the end in justification.
114. The justified person is not able for his whole life long to avoid all sins, even venial sins,
without the special privilege of the grace of God.
115. Even in the fallen state, man can, by his natural intellectual power, know religious and moral
truths.
116. For the performance of a morally good action Sanctifying Grace is not required.
117. In the state of fallen nature it is morally impossible for man without Supernatural Revelation,
to know easily, with absolute certainty and without admixture of error, all religious and
moral truths of the natural order.
118. Grace cannot be merited by natural works either de condigno or de congruo.
119. God gives all the just sufficient grace (gratia proxime vel remote sufficiens) for the
observation of the Divine Commandments.
120. God, by His Eternal Resolve of Will, has predetermined certain men to eternal blessedness.
121. God, by an Eternal Resolve of His Will, predestines certain men, on account of their foreseen
sins, to eternal rejection.
122. The Human Will remains free under the influence of efficacious grace, which is not
irresistible.
123. There is a grace which is truly sufficient and yet remains inefficacious (gratia vere et mere
sufficiens).
124. The sinner can and must prepare himself by the help of actual grace for the reception of the
grace by which he is justified.
125. The justification of an adult is not possible without Faith.
126. Besides faith, further acts of disposition must be present.
127. Sanctifying grace sanctifies the soul.
128. Sanctifying grace makes the just man a friend of God.
129. Sanctifying grace makes the just man a child of God and gives him a claim to the inheritance
of Heaven.
130. The three Divine or Theological Virtues of Faith, Hope and Charity are infused with
Sanctifying grace.
131. Without special Divine Revelation no one can know with the certainty of faith, if he be in the
state of grace.
132. The degree of justifying grace is not identical in all the just.
133. Grace can be increased by good works.
134. The grace by which we are justified may be lost, and is lost by every grievous [mortal,
serious] sin.
135. By his good works the justified man really acquires a claim to supernatural reward from
God.
136. A just man merits for himself through each good work an increase of sanctifying grace,
eternal life (if he dies in a state of grace) and an increase of heavenly glory.

 

[Ladodgers6]

You are a walking contradiction

Sola means alone nothing added!
Nothing else!
The existence of a church is an authority and that contradicts sola scriptura
Even is the church only published and passed out bibles it would be exercising an authority!

Scripture cannot exercise authority only men can, God always establishes peace and order in obedience to the jurisdictional authority of the fathers!

Only apostles can administer the sacraments of grace!

Only apostles can lay on hands in ordaining priest to offer the eternal sacrifice of Christ!

Christ only commanded his apostles to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! Matt 28:19

Thks

Only the Apostles, so why does the Pope administer the Sacraments, or Pastors, deacons, and so forth? You can call me whatever names you want. This is not about me, but the Truth of God's Word!

4 But Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

 

[Ladodgers6]

Christ established the church of the apostles to teach and sanctify of men unto eternal salvation! Matt 28:19
Matt 28:19 includes baptism

Jn 3:5 born again or baptismal regeneration the grace of baptism is the grace of justification whereby we enter the kingdom and children of God!

Covenants require an outward sign that signifies what it accomplishes
Washing both body water (outward) and soul (inward) by grace

Christ instituted the sacraments of the life of grace! Jn 1:16-17 Jn 10:10 Jn 14:6 eph 2:1 & 2:5 the life of God in us, grace!

Context of Jn 3:5 “born again”

John1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (John prepared the way by baptism)

John 2:6 And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. (Old covenant prefiguring of baptism, purification from sin)(His disciples believed because the ever Virgin mother of God interceded Jn 2:11)

John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (Baptism)

(Key verse! Actions speak louder than words: verse 22)

John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.(Baptism / water)

John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

Born again means Baptismal regeneration! Not salvation proper but the beginning of salvation, union with God and the communion of saints by the grace of Jesus Christ the mediator of the new covenant!
Jn 15:4 Matt 24:13


baptismal regeneration!
A new creation in Christ! 2 cor 5:17
Jn 1 JTB prepared the way by baptism!
Jn 2 the waters of purification are OT prefigurement of baptism!
Jn 3:5 born again means baptism
Jn 3:22 they immediately went to the river! Not to preach “accept Christ as personal lord and savior”
But to BAPTIZE!!!

So, then are you suggesting we throw out our Bibles because we have a church?

 

[Ladodgers6]

Most people who oppose catholic dogma actually believe about 90 Percent!

Dogma / De Fide or “thee faith” (found 31 times in the New Testament) Eph 5:4 Jude 1:3

Truths revealed by Christ, taught by His apostolic church! (Matt 28:19)
(The rule of faith)

The faith that binds all Christians! Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18

109. There is a supernatural intervention of God in the faculties of the soul, which precedes the free act of the will.
110. There is a supernatural influence of God in the faculties of the soul which coincides in time with man’s free act of will.
111. For every salutary act internal supernatural grace of God (gratia elevans) is absolutely necessary.
112. Internal supernatural grace is absolutely necessary for the beginning of faith and of salvation.
113. Without the special help of God the justified cannot persevere to the end in justification.
114. The justified person is not able for his whole life long to avoid all sins, even venial sins,
without the special privilege of the grace of God.
115. Even in the fallen state, man can, by his natural intellectual power, know religious and moral
truths.
116. For the performance of a morally good action Sanctifying Grace is not required.
117. In the state of fallen nature it is morally impossible for man without Supernatural Revelation,
to know easily, with absolute certainty and without admixture of error, all religious and
moral truths of the natural order.
118. Grace cannot be merited by natural works either de condigno or de congruo.
119. God gives all the just sufficient grace (gratia proxime vel remote sufficiens) for the
observation of the Divine Commandments.
120. God, by His Eternal Resolve of Will, has predetermined certain men to eternal blessedness.
121. God, by an Eternal Resolve of His Will, predestines certain men, on account of their foreseen
sins, to eternal rejection.
122. The Human Will remains free under the influence of efficacious grace, which is not
irresistible.
123. There is a grace which is truly sufficient and yet remains inefficacious (gratia vere et mere
sufficiens).
124. The sinner can and must prepare himself by the help of actual grace for the reception of the
grace by which he is justified.
125. The justification of an adult is not possible without Faith.
126. Besides faith, further acts of disposition must be present.
127. Sanctifying grace sanctifies the soul.
128. Sanctifying grace makes the just man a friend of God.
129. Sanctifying grace makes the just man a child of God and gives him a claim to the inheritance
of Heaven.
130. The three Divine or Theological Virtues of Faith, Hope and Charity are infused with
Sanctifying grace.
131. Without special Divine Revelation no one can know with the certainty of faith, if he be in the
state of grace.
132. The degree of justifying grace is not identical in all the just.
133. Grace can be increased by good works.
134. The grace by which we are justified may be lost, and is lost by every grievous [mortal,
serious] sin.
135. By his good works the justified man really acquires a claim to supernatural reward from
God.
136. A just man merits for himself through each good work an increase of sanctifying grace,
eternal life (if he dies in a state of grace) and an increase of heavenly glory.

And again no mention of how a sinner is justified before God? You should read Erasmus on Justification (by the way He is Catholic Theologian) where he laid the egg that Luther hatched.

Also read the ECF on justification, Augustine, Anselm and so forth.

 

[donadams]

Only baseless accusations. It's God very Word! Why does Paul direct us to grow in the knowledge of God's word so that we are not deceived like the Galatians.

Asking questions is not the same as accusations

Growing in knowledge cannot not include rejecting Christ, his church that he established and commanded to teach his truth.m

Scripture does not authorize a rebellion disguised as a reform

Thks

 

[donadams]

To place the church above God's Word? Okay, how about the Pope selling indulgences saying to people that they can sin and as long as they pay for indulgences on Monday they are forgiven. How many times have people have been deceived by False Prophets or False teachers? Didn't a lot of people commit suicide belonging to the church of Jim Jones or those who lost their lives with David Koresh, and the list goes on and on and on! So, I'll stick with the Word of God as the final authority.​

That’s a baseless accusation!

“Salvation by the shilling” is simply the hatred of the enemies of God attacking His church!

Actually indulgences have nothing to do with the forgiveness of sin or salvation!

Jn 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

The tradition of Men that’s one thing, but the apostolic tradition with divine authority & divine origin is another!

To accept the apostolic church is to accept Christ, to reject the apostolic church is to reject Christ and it is He who says so! Lk 10:16 Jn 13:20

Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles! The apostles have the same mission, ministry, power, and authority as Christ! Jn 20:21 as the father sent me, so I send you!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28 and 1 cor 6:2
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
Jn 17:22 / rom 2:10 / 1 pet 1:7 Christ shares His glory with His saints!
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
Must hear church Matt 18:18
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
His authority in governing the church and administering the kingdom!
Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 Jn 21:17
Lk 22:29
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
Acts 2:42 doctrine of the apostles!
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Christ shares His glory! 2 thes 1:10 rev 12:1

The pillar and foundation of TRUTH!
1 Tim 3:15

The TWO EDGE SWORD!
To proclaim the truth! Matt 28:19
To condemn error! 1 cor 16:22

Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church for the salvation of all men! (Jn 1:16-17) Christ is the truth! (Jn 14:6) Christ and his church are one!
(Acts 9;4 Jn 15:1 eph 5:32)
The church is the pillar of truth
(1 Tim 3:15) that must teach all men (Matt 28:19) without error guided by the Holy Spirit
(Jn 16:13) Thru the grace of God in the sanctification of souls applied in the seven sacraments!

Thanks

 

[donadams]

Yes, and didn't Paul admonition Peter?

11But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12For before certain men came from James, he was eating with the Gentiles; but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party.a 13And the rest of the Jews acted hypocritically along with him, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. 14But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, “If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?”

It is permitted for one apostle to do so in matters of discipline

 

[donadams]

You mean with all those pedophiles in the Catholic church?

Does the church teach them to be sinners? Do we accuse the Baptist church in this unchristian manner? No cos we are reasonable and realize that they don’t teach or approve of it in their pastors

A Christian must practice the virtues of Jesus Christ especially humility and charity

Thanks

With the communist infiltration and the Vietnam war many homo’s came into the seminaries of most denominations

 

[Arial]

Asking questions is not the same as accusations

Growing in knowledge cannot not include rejecting Christ, his church that he established and commanded to teach his truth.m

Scripture does not authorize a rebellion disguised as a reform

Thks

After all these years, and countless requests for you to do so, you still have not established that the Catholic church is the only true church, or that it has been given authority (by who and when?) to be the sole interpreters of Scripture, the sole dIspenser of saving grace, and the ruler over all sacrament and tradition. It is the only witness to any of those things and therefore is invalid, and everything you say that assumes what has not been proven in that regard amounts to nothing. It is simply asking all of humanity to take the RCC's word for it.

What board is this OP in? I am not going to bother to warn or correct you this time. I realize you cannot talk about anything without the presumption and presumptuousness, of the Catholic brainwashing. It is too late anyway. You have already turned a thread intended to be about the free gift of justification into a Catholic thread, using their writing instead of the Scripture as support for what you say. Pat yourself on the back. Be sure and tell your priest so he can credit it to your account.

 

[donadams]

Only the Apostles, so why does the Pope administer the Sacraments, or Pastors, deacons, and so forth? You can call me whatever names you want. This is not about me, but the Truth of God's Word!

4 But Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

Only the apostles have authority from Christ in the church but they can ordained priests and deacons to help them but some things only the bishop can do

 

[donadams]

So, then are you suggesting we throw out our Bibles because we have a church?

We don’t have sacred scripture only the church does

 

[donadams]

And again no mention of how a sinner is justified before God? You should read Erasmus on Justification (by the way He is Catholic Theologian) where he laid the egg that Luther hatched.

Also read the ECF on justification, Augustine, Anselm and so forth.

Augustine ok


A) "It does not suffice to believe. He who believes and is not yet baptized, but is only a Catechumen, has not yet fully acquired salvation." St. Thomas Aquinas

B) "Now, even the Catechumen believes in the Cross of the Lord Jesus, but unless he be baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, he cannot receive remission of his sins nor the gift of spiritual grace." St. Ambrose

C) "Without the Sacrament of Baptism, no one is ever justified. If anyone says that Baptism is optional, that is, not necessary for salvation: let him be anathema." Council of Trent

D)
“There are three ways in which sins are forgiven: in baptism, in prayer, and in the greater humility of penance; yet God does not forgive sins except to the baptized” (Sermons to Catechumens on the Creed 7:15 [A.D. 395]).
St. AUGUSTINE

E) “As many as are persuaded and believe that what we [Christians] teach and say is true, and undertake to be able to live accordingly . . . are brought by us where there is water, and are regenerated in the same manner in which we were ourselves regenerated. For, in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Savior Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit, they then receive the washing with water. For Christ also said, ‘Except you be born again, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:3]” (First Apology 61 [A.D. 151]).
JUSTIN MARTYR

TERTULLIAN
“Happy is our sacrament of water, in that, by washing away the sins of our early blindness, we are set free and admitted into eternal life. . . . [But] a viper of the [Gnostic] Cainite heresy, lately conversant in this quarter, has carried away a great number with her most venomous doctrine, making it her first aim to destroy baptism—which is quite in accordance with nature, for vipers and.asps . . . themselves generally do live in arid and waterless places. But we, little fishes after the example of our [Great] Fish, Jesus Christ, are born in water, nor have we safety in any other way than by permanently abiding in water. So that most monstrous creature, who had no right to teach even sound doctrine, knew full well how to kill the little fishes—by taking them away from the water!” (Baptism 1 [A.D. 203]).

“Without baptism, salvation is attainable by none” (ibid., 12).

ORIGEN
“It is not possible to receive forgiveness of sins without baptism” (Exhortation to the Martyrs 30 [A.D. 235]).

CYRIL OF JERUSALEM
“If any man does not receive baptism, he does not have salvation.

St. AUGUSTINE
“There are three ways in which sins are forgiven: in baptism, in prayer, and in the greater humility of penance; yet God does not forgive sins except to the baptized” (Sermons to Catechumens on the Creed 7:15 [A.D. 395]).


Dogma

174. Baptism is a true Sacrament instituted by Jesus Christ.
175. The materia remota of the Sacrament of Baptism is true and natural water.
176. Baptism confers the grace of justification.
177. Baptism effects the remission of all punishments of sin, both the eternal and the temporal.
178. Even if it be unworthily received, valid Baptism imprints on the soul of the recipient an
indelible spiritual mark, the Baptismal Character, and for this reason, the Sacrament cannot
be repeated.
179. Baptism by water (Baptismus fluminis) is, since the promulgation of the Gospel, necessary
for all men without exception, for salvation.
180. Baptism can be validly administered by anyone.
181. Baptism can be received by any person in the wayfaring state who is not already baptised.
182. The Baptism of young children is valid and licit.

 

[donadams]

After all these years, and countless requests for you to do so, you still have not established that the Catholic church is the only true church, or that it has been given authority (by who and when?) to be the sole interpreters of Scripture, the sole dIspenser of saving grace, and the ruler over all sacrament and tradition. It is the only witness to any of those things and therefore is invalid, and everything you say that assumes what has not been proven in that regard amounts to nothing. It is simply asking all of humanity to take the RCC's word for it.

What board is this OP in? I am not going to bother to warn or correct you this time. I realize you cannot talk about anything without the presumption and presumptuousness, of the Catholic brainwashing. It is too late anyway. You have already turned a thread intended to be about the free gift of justification into a Catholic thread, using their writing instead of the Scripture as support for what you say. Pat yourself on the back. Be sure and tell your priest so he can credit it to your account.

Sorry again
Just answering him
I agree the grace of justification is a free gift of God if we choose to accept it! Thks

 

[Ladodgers6]

Asking questions is not the same as accusations

Growing in knowledge cannot not include rejecting Christ, his church that he established and commanded to teach his truth.m

Scripture does not authorize a rebellion disguised as a reform

Thks

Here we go again baseless accusations. When did I ever reject Christ? You keep throwing scripture out the window, to set-up men over God's Word. There is no church without Scripture, God's Word, don't you get that?

 

[Ladodgers6]

That’s a baseless accusation!

“Salvation by the shilling” is simply the hatred of the enemies of God attacking His church!

Actually indulgences have nothing to do with the forgiveness of sin or salvation!

Jn 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

The tradition of Men that’s one thing, but the apostolic tradition with divine authority & divine origin is another!

To accept the apostolic church is to accept Christ, to reject the apostolic church is to reject Christ and it is He who says so! Lk 10:16 Jn 13:20

Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles! The apostles have the same mission, ministry, power, and authority as Christ! Jn 20:21 as the father sent me, so I send you!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28 and 1 cor 6:2
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
Jn 17:22 / rom 2:10 / 1 pet 1:7 Christ shares His glory with His saints!
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
Must hear church Matt 18:18
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
His authority in governing the church and administering the kingdom!
Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 Jn 21:17
Lk 22:29
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
Acts 2:42 doctrine of the apostles!
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Christ shares His glory! 2 thes 1:10 rev 12:1

The pillar and foundation of TRUTH!
1 Tim 3:15

The TWO EDGE SWORD!
To proclaim the truth! Matt 28:19
To condemn error! 1 cor 16:22

Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church for the salvation of all men! (Jn 1:16-17) Christ is the truth! (Jn 14:6) Christ and his church are one!
(Acts 9;4 Jn 15:1 eph 5:32)
The church is the pillar of truth
(1 Tim 3:15) that must teach all men (Matt 28:19) without error guided by the Holy Spirit
(Jn 16:13) Thru the grace of God in the sanctification of souls applied in the seven sacraments!

Thanks

On contrary, Paul exhorted us to grow in the knowledge of the Lord so that we and test the spirits and not get deceived by false teachers.

 

[Ladodgers6]

It is permitted for one apostle to do so in matters of discipline

Ah, but who was he disciplining? How was Paul able to discipline Peter? Through God's Word, or by his personal judgements?

 

[Ladodgers6]

Does the church teach them to be sinners? Do we accuse the Baptist church in this unchristian manner? No cos we are reasonable and realize that they don’t teach or approve of it in their pastors

A Christian must practice the virtues of Jesus Christ especially humility and charity

Thanks

With the communist infiltration and the Vietnam war many homo’s came into the seminaries of most denominations

You keep placing men over God's word, that's the problem. So, I pointed what men do. Or you deny that there are pedophiles in the Catholic church? Watch Spotlight.

 

[Ladodgers6]

Only the apostles have authority from Christ in the church but they can ordained priests and deacons to help them but some things only the bishop can do

Are the Apostles here with us today to administer the sacraments to us?

 

[Ladodgers6]

We don’t have sacred scripture only the church does

What on earth are you talking about? It's sounds like you are in an occult. Holy Scripture are available for anyone to read. Again I will say that Paul exhorted us to grow in the knowledge of Lord so that we are not deceived.

 

[Ladodgers6]

Augustine ok


A) "It does not suffice to believe. He who believes and is not yet baptized, but is only a Catechumen, has not yet fully acquired salvation." St. Thomas Aquinas

B) "Now, even the Catechumen believes in the Cross of the Lord Jesus, but unless he be baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, he cannot receive remission of his sins nor the gift of spiritual grace." St. Ambrose

C) "Without the Sacrament of Baptism, no one is ever justified. If anyone says that Baptism is optional, that is, not necessary for salvation: let him be anathema." Council of Trent

D)
“There are three ways in which sins are forgiven: in baptism, in prayer, and in the greater humility of penance; yet God does not forgive sins except to the baptized” (Sermons to Catechumens on the Creed 7:15 [A.D. 395]).
St. AUGUSTINE

E) “As many as are persuaded and believe that what we [Christians] teach and say is true, and undertake to be able to live accordingly . . . are brought by us where there is water, and are regenerated in the same manner in which we were ourselves regenerated. For, in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Savior Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit, they then receive the washing with water. For Christ also said, ‘Except you be born again, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:3]” (First Apology 61 [A.D. 151]).
JUSTIN MARTYR

TERTULLIAN
“Happy is our sacrament of water, in that, by washing away the sins of our early blindness, we are set free and admitted into eternal life. . . . [But] a viper of the [Gnostic] Cainite heresy, lately conversant in this quarter, has carried away a great number with her most venomous doctrine, making it her first aim to destroy baptism—which is quite in accordance with nature, for vipers and.asps . . . themselves generally do live in arid and waterless places. But we, little fishes after the example of our [Great] Fish, Jesus Christ, are born in water, nor have we safety in any other way than by permanently abiding in water. So that most monstrous creature, who had no right to teach even sound doctrine, knew full well how to kill the little fishes—by taking them away from the water!” (Baptism 1 [A.D. 203]).

“Without baptism, salvation is attainable by none” (ibid., 12).

ORIGEN
“It is not possible to receive forgiveness of sins without baptism” (Exhortation to the Martyrs 30 [A.D. 235]).

CYRIL OF JERUSALEM
“If any man does not receive baptism, he does not have salvation.

St. AUGUSTINE
“There are three ways in which sins are forgiven: in baptism, in prayer, and in the greater humility of penance; yet God does not forgive sins except to the baptized” (Sermons to Catechumens on the Creed 7:15 [A.D. 395]).


Dogma

174. Baptism is a true Sacrament instituted by Jesus Christ.
175. The materia remota of the Sacrament of Baptism is true and natural water.
176. Baptism confers the grace of justification.
177. Baptism effects the remission of all punishments of sin, both the eternal and the temporal.
178. Even if it be unworthily received, valid Baptism imprints on the soul of the recipient an
indelible spiritual mark, the Baptismal Character, and for this reason, the Sacrament cannot
be repeated.
179. Baptism by water (Baptismus fluminis) is, since the promulgation of the Gospel, necessary
for all men without exception, for salvation.
180. Baptism can be validly administered by anyone.
181. Baptism can be received by any person in the wayfaring state who is not already baptised.
182. The Baptism of young children is valid and licit.

So, let me get this straight, all a sinner has to "DO", is get baptist, not knowing why they need it, or how they are justified before a Holy God who demands perfect holiness to enter heaven, and baptist is going to do that, even though these sinners do not know it? Because Ghada, a sinner must be driven to Christ by the Law. Without this there's no reason to even think you need a Savior. A Redeemer is for sinners convicted of their sin and find no hope, mercy or grace in the Law. The only place a sinner can find peace, hope, life, Salvation is in Christ alone through faith alone; a true faith that is self-renouncing and self-relying on Christ alone in who he is and what he has done. But I know you do not understand this because you make no mention of sin and the curse that sinners are under in the first place.