The goal of this thread is to have an exegetical discussion over Ephesians 2:1-10. For those of you who may be unaware, an exegetical discussion is one where the main focus is upon the book itself, and in particular the passage is the main focus. Often, Ephesians 2:8 is brought up and debated; but I'm seeking for a discussion that deals with the context of the verse. What context surrounds 2:8? This is probably the most critical question. Are verses 2:1-10 the unit of though that contains 2:8? If yes, then how does the surrounding context inform our understanding of 2:8? Since 2:1-10 is obviously in chapter 2, then does any of the prior content (ch1) give significant help in properly understanding 2:1-10 and 2:8 in particular?
In case you have missed an impossible to miss point, CONTEXT IS CRITICAL!
Do you see section breaks or breaks in thought through the course of 2:1-10? Are there any relevant historical details from the time that Paul wrote the book, which may impact our understanding of 2:1-10?
For those of you who may possess some knowledge of Greek. What conjunctions and transition words are in play that mark the boundaries and flow of thought? What role do the opening participles play before arriving at the main verbs? What rules are there regarding antecedents of pronouns?
Is there repetition? (compare verse 5 with verse 8) If there is repetition, then how does this impact one's understanding? Why repeat? How is deadness described, and how does this deadness impact our understanding of God's grace?
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Some struggle with the idea that context shapes meaning, so I'll give a few illustrations that will help us see how context shapes meaning.
Trunk Illustration
The word "trunk" is the focus.
If I take you over to my driveway and point to the back of my car, and I talk to you about the item that I have placed in the trunk of the car. You begin to understand what I mean by "trunk."
If I take you to the zoo, and I point out the elephant standing in front of us. I begin speaking to you about the "trunk" of the elephant, and you see the trunk wrap around a tree branch, to pull off edible greenery, and you see the elephant place the food in its mouth by means of the trunk. Then you begin to understand what I mean by "trunk" in a different context.
If I take you to the upstairs attic, and I point to you an old trunk. This trunk has a padlock on the front of it, and it stores items of nostalgic significance. You then begin to understand what I mean by "trunk" in a different context.
If I take you out to the yard, and we walk over to the tree. I'll point out the trunk of the tree. It is hard, has bark around it, and it is a critical foundational element of the tree. Upon this trunk, the rest of the branches, limbs, leaves, and any fruit or seeds rest upon it. Again, you then begin to understand what I mean by "trunk" in a different context.
The point . . . Context shapes meaning. It is a critical element of interpretation.
Breaking into a home illustration
I still remember, long ago, taking a literature class. One of our reading assignments involves a short story, where a person breaks into a home. He walks about quietly, so as not to be heard. And I must abbreviate it significantly. I came away from the reading thinking that I was reading about a thief breaking into a home. But the teacher the next day pointed out that the story was about a person who was locked out of their own home. The person was forced to break in, and the person was quiet so as not to wake any of the others in the home. The point . . . a little bit of context radically changed the perception of what one was reading.
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Coming full circle. How does the context surrounding verse 2:8 shape the meaning of 2:8?
While an exegetical study does not ignore the rest of scripture, it is important to first (greatest priority) seek the immediate context. Outside of the book, then Paul's other writings may shed light upon the book of Ephesians. But please, let us keep the external (outside of the book of Eph) context to a minimum. The reason, too often people immediately jump to contexts outside of the most immediate context, and in so doing they subvert the very meaning of the passage itself. Let the external context be kept to a minimum and mentioned last.
With the rules and boundaries of the thread in place, I would love to see other's thoughts. Obviously, I've already done a significant amount of work. But I would like to see others' thoughts.
In case you have missed an impossible to miss point, CONTEXT IS CRITICAL!
Do you see section breaks or breaks in thought through the course of 2:1-10? Are there any relevant historical details from the time that Paul wrote the book, which may impact our understanding of 2:1-10?
For those of you who may possess some knowledge of Greek. What conjunctions and transition words are in play that mark the boundaries and flow of thought? What role do the opening participles play before arriving at the main verbs? What rules are there regarding antecedents of pronouns?
Is there repetition? (compare verse 5 with verse 8) If there is repetition, then how does this impact one's understanding? Why repeat? How is deadness described, and how does this deadness impact our understanding of God's grace?
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Some struggle with the idea that context shapes meaning, so I'll give a few illustrations that will help us see how context shapes meaning.
Trunk Illustration
The word "trunk" is the focus.
If I take you over to my driveway and point to the back of my car, and I talk to you about the item that I have placed in the trunk of the car. You begin to understand what I mean by "trunk."
If I take you to the zoo, and I point out the elephant standing in front of us. I begin speaking to you about the "trunk" of the elephant, and you see the trunk wrap around a tree branch, to pull off edible greenery, and you see the elephant place the food in its mouth by means of the trunk. Then you begin to understand what I mean by "trunk" in a different context.
If I take you to the upstairs attic, and I point to you an old trunk. This trunk has a padlock on the front of it, and it stores items of nostalgic significance. You then begin to understand what I mean by "trunk" in a different context.
If I take you out to the yard, and we walk over to the tree. I'll point out the trunk of the tree. It is hard, has bark around it, and it is a critical foundational element of the tree. Upon this trunk, the rest of the branches, limbs, leaves, and any fruit or seeds rest upon it. Again, you then begin to understand what I mean by "trunk" in a different context.
The point . . . Context shapes meaning. It is a critical element of interpretation.
Breaking into a home illustration
I still remember, long ago, taking a literature class. One of our reading assignments involves a short story, where a person breaks into a home. He walks about quietly, so as not to be heard. And I must abbreviate it significantly. I came away from the reading thinking that I was reading about a thief breaking into a home. But the teacher the next day pointed out that the story was about a person who was locked out of their own home. The person was forced to break in, and the person was quiet so as not to wake any of the others in the home. The point . . . a little bit of context radically changed the perception of what one was reading.
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Coming full circle. How does the context surrounding verse 2:8 shape the meaning of 2:8?
While an exegetical study does not ignore the rest of scripture, it is important to first (greatest priority) seek the immediate context. Outside of the book, then Paul's other writings may shed light upon the book of Ephesians. But please, let us keep the external (outside of the book of Eph) context to a minimum. The reason, too often people immediately jump to contexts outside of the most immediate context, and in so doing they subvert the very meaning of the passage itself. Let the external context be kept to a minimum and mentioned last.
With the rules and boundaries of the thread in place, I would love to see other's thoughts. Obviously, I've already done a significant amount of work. But I would like to see others' thoughts.