A cup of wine is not poured out but his blood isIs that a denial of Lk 22:20: "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you."
Your point?
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A cup of wine is not poured out but his blood isIs that a denial of Lk 22:20: "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you."
Your point?
And he drank the cup, he didn't pour it out.A cup of wine is not poured out but his blood is
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Matt 26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
The simple fact that Jesus is God makes it a reality for example: God cannot say “let there be light” and no light appears!
Even if it was not His body by the fact God is declaring it would make it a reality!
Thks
It was poured out on the crossAnd he drank the cup, he didn't pour it out.
Your point?
But not from the cup in which it was presented.It was poured out on the cross
Yes, unbelievers in Christ may not partake of the Lord's Supper.
That is not what he said, at all.On the night of the passover, Jesus implemented the Lords supper. He said --Keep on doing this in remembrance of me.= On the night of the passover only.
It was poured out on the cross
As the propitiatory sacrifice
Hi DonIt was poured out on the cross
As the propitiatory sacrifice
Holy communion is a sacrament and the seven sacraments are the fruits of His sacrifice!
We receive holy communion or the Eucharist from the altar!
Hebrews 13:10
We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.
Thks
It was the night of Nisan 14 actually.That is not what he said, at all.
Luke 22:14-23
When the hour had come, he reclined at the table, and the apostles with him. And he said to them, "I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God." And when he had taken a cup and given thanks, he said, "Take this and share it among yourselves; for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes." And when he had taken some bread and given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of me." And in the same way he took the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood. But behold, the hand of the one betraying me is with mine on the table. For indeed, the Son of Man is going as it has been determined; but woe to that man by whom he is betrayed!" And they began to discuss among themselves which one of them it might be who was going to do this thing.
That is what is stated in scripture. That is what is recorded. Matthew's, Mark's, and John's gospels do not have Jesus saying, "Do this in remembrance of me." Only Luke reports Jesus saying those words and the words are "...do this in remembrance of me," NOT "Keep on doing this in remembrance of me," OR "Keep on doing this on the night of the Passover only," OR even "Keep doing the Passover."
If we're going to discuss what Jesus said then let's discuss what he actually said, and not some made-up nonsense that was never uttered from his mouth. Let's definitely not abuse scripture by making it say things it never states and then (wrongly) imagine we're discussing God's word correctly. Let's definitely not render the report of Luke in any way that would conflict with what Paul later wrote,
1 Corinthians 5:6-8
Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough? Clean out the old leaven so that you may be a new lump, just as you are in fact unleavened. For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed. Therefore, let us celebrate the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
It's an odd op that changes the word of God and then seeks to celebrate the Passover that is Christ with a lack of truth. This 1 Corinthians 5 text is the only other time in the New Testament where the Passover is mentioned in the present tense. All other mentions are about what happened prior to Calvary. Similarly, 1 Corinthians is also the only epistle to mention the Lord's supper (and there is no mention of it occurring at Passover - see 1 Cor. 11:2-24).
It is also an odd op that asserts the Lord's supper should occur only on Passover when Jesus never said any such thing AND that is nowhere found in the rest of the New Testament, or the New Testament's ecclesia's practice. We know from the gospels that even though we celebrate his sacrifice, Jesus won't be participating until the wedding feast.
Whatever else is said, the facts of whole scripture are that we walk in the Passover sacrifice of the God's lamb every single day and there isn't a day when we cannot or should not celebrate that condition. Any Christian wanting to practice the Lord's supper ONLY on the Passover certainly has liberty to do so, but others need not be bound to that very limited practice.
Romans 14:1-10
Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.
We have liberty to honor one day more than another as long as we do so unto God AND don't judge those who do things differently. Likewise, we have liberty to treat all days exactly alike - whether we celebrate the Lord's supper daily or not - as long as we do so unto God and do not judge those who do things differently.
So...
If this op is intended in any way to impugn any Christian because they don't practice the Lord's supper on Passover, then this op is incorrect. If, on the other hand, the op is intended to celebrate the fulfillment of what was foreshadowed long ago when the Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt, and the new life every Christian has every day, every place in that sacrifice that is Christ then that can be commended.
I doubt that.On the night of the passover, Jesus implemented the Lords supper.
All of those identifications describe covenant Israel, God's Betrothed and apple of His eye.He said --Keep on doing this in remembrance of me.= On the night of the passover only.
He as well made a special covenant for those who are to partake=Luke 22:29-30= Those who will sit on thrones( only)-Only the little flock( Luke 12:32) will sit on thrones, the great crowd( Rev 7:9) of other sheep( John 10:16) who are not of that fold will not sit on thrones. The little flock= the anointed bride of Christ=144,000 bought from the earth( Rev 14:3) these will be kings and priests on thrones beside Jesus( Rev 1:6,, Rev 20:6)
Under the Law an animal was sacrificed for the sins of the children of Israel.Paul warned that some are not worthy=the great crowd. 1Cor 11:27-29)--verse 28 approve oneself( being of the little flock) after scrutiny. Thus-All others partaking are committing serious sin, only the false religions lead by blind guides tell ALL to partake. Those reside in darkness and are misleading ones to not enter Gods kingdom. Luke 22"29-30 is clear-who will you believe?
Under the Law an animal was sacrificed for the sins of the children of Israel.
Christ came and fulfilled the Law and since He did not come to change the Law which He cannot, and which would destroy the Law, as the Lamb of God He offered Himself under the Law for the sins of the children of Israel who were in covenant with God.
Let's do that.Let's be clear. And Biblical.
You may also.You and others may disagree with the Scripture
Clear indeed.concerning for whom Christ died but Scripture is clear.
You must have forgotten.God made no covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles and as a result non-Hebrew Gentiles are without atonement.
What does that have to do with post 126? Why are you avoiding the fact the op misrepresents Jesus' words. If you want to have a conversation with me then FIRST acknowledge the error. Acknowledge the fact, "He said --Keep on doing this in remembrance of me.= On the night of the passover only," is wrong. Acknowledge the fact, "Keep on doing this in remembrance of me on the night of the Passover only. is NOT what Jesus said.It was the night of Nisan 14 actually.
Jesus only made that covenant that night to those who will sit on thrones-Luke 22:29-30)= The little flock,( Luke 12:32) not the great crowd( Rev 7:9) of other sheep( John 10:16) who are not of that fold. Its a major sin to partake if not of the little flock. Blind guides tell all to partake.
You are mislead because you do not know Jesus.I doubt that.
He implemented nothing. He observed the Passover meal as commanded by God.
All of those identifications describe covenant Israel, God's Betrothed and apple of His eye.
Under the Law an animal was sacrificed for the sins of the children of Israel.
Christ came and fulfilled the Law and since He did not come to change the Law which He cannot, and which would destroy the Law, as the Lamb of God He offered Himself under the Law for the sins of the children of Israel who were in covenant with God. He did not die for the sins of Gentiles. Under the covenant the high priest did two things among others and that was to pray for the people of God in covenant and offer sacrifices for the people of God in covenant. The high priest after praying and offering sin-sacrifices for the children of Israel did not leave and go to the non-Hebrew Gentiles that surrounded the children of Israel and pray or offer sacrifices for their sins.
Jesus said, "Scripture cannot be broken." So, any teaching Jesus died for Gentiles is a Gentile-fabricated lie born of jealousy, ignorance, and inheritance theft.
Gentiles have no covenant with God and are left unatoned, unless you as presumed Gentile have Abraham's DNA in your family ancestry, but even that doesn't guarantee salvation. Isaac had Esau and Jacob, but the promise went to Jacob, and then to his twelve sons who are the children of Israel.
1 THE book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; Mt 1:1-2
It was Nisan 14, not necessarily the passover. That changes every year.What does that have to do with post 126? Why are you avoiding the fact the op misrepresents Jesus' words. If you want to have a conversation with me then FIRST acknowledge the error. Acknowledge the fact, "He said --Keep on doing this in remembrance of me.= On the night of the passover only," is wrong. Acknowledge the fact, "Keep on doing this in remembrance of me on the night of the Passover only. is NOT what Jesus said.
I am not having a conversation with anyone who misrepresents God's word, misquotes Jesus, builds a strawman case off the misrepresentation, and won't acknowledge the error when it's pointed out and he's asked to self-correct his mistake. I have posted the relevant verses, so the correct words are already present for everyone to read and verify. It should not take a fraction of a second to acknowledge the facts in evidence.
FIRST correct that error.
The many "nations" are identified as the descendants of Ishmael (who had twelve sons), and Esau, as both are the seed of Abraham and "come out of thee" (Abraham), and as you may well know, Gentiles (non-Hebrews to not come out of Hebrew parents (Abe and Sarah.)Let's do that.
You may also.
Clear indeed.
You must have forgotten.
Genesis 17:4-7 KJV
(4) As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
(5) Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
(6) And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
(7) And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
Seeking is not attaining. Scripture cannot be broken so stop trying to break it.Isaiah 11:10 KJV
(10) And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
I agree. It was given to Abraham and his seed and non-Hebrew Gentiles do not come from Abraham's seed.Galatians 3:16-18 KJV
(16) Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
(17) And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
(18) For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
Good Lord. Context!Galatians 3:29 KJV
(29) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
I know Him very well, spank you, very much.You are mislead because you do not know Jesus.