Coming Against Reformed Theology

[Carbon]

How can truth be reformed?

You obviously have no idea what reformed means.

Truth is of divine origin, & immutable!

Of course.

 

[Carbon]

According to scripture when was the time of reformation?

You should be able to trace it and follow along with the history of the Christian church. When you see the Church become corrupt and start all sorts of unbiblical doctrines, you will notice God rose up Luther to start the Reformation.

 

[Josheb]

Actually, God did train up the reformers and send them to us. And none of them tried to change the truth.

^^^^^What he said^^^^^

 

[Mr GLee]

Christ and his church are one!

I would offer. . .The Church is God?

One God. . . . Not a legion of patron saint gods (men and woman) dying mankind. 3500 and rising, even today waiting for the Popes approval

The. first century reformation according to all things writen in the law and prophets (sola scriptura ) restored the government, to the period of Judges. Men and women prophets sent as apostles from all the nations of the worlds. . . preaching the gospel In a hope or unseen Holy Father the invisible head teach them. We preach He alone is the one good teaching authority the teacher Holy Spirit

Those who call themselves venerable fathers (2 kinds of fathers )They thought the disciples were drunk .Our Father the invisible head hid the understand of the parable from those who seek after dying flesh and blood of mankind . scripture written by the finger of God (sola scriptura) was of no benefit to them they refuse to obey the commandment cl no dying sinner on earth Holy Father .they refuse to believe in a Holy Father not seen no invisible powerful head;

Acts 2:15-17King James Version15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

It was still possible to receive new revelations until the last chapter of the book of law or called the book of prophecy Revaltion. Today Catholicism has a legion of mystics claiming to receive new revelations waiting for the Popes official approval

Christ as our Holy Father reigning from heaven, He who works in our hearts lovingly commands us call no dying sinner on earth Holy Father, Holy See, Prince of the Apostles (etc) .

The unbelieving Jews as a law of the fathers (oral traditons of dying mankind) usurped the powerful faith of Christ. Christ reigning in the hearts of born again children of the incorruptible seed of the living word .. . . .not seen

They had all the right Hebrew credentials, best teacher( Gamaliel,) and had a false zeal for knowing Christ our Holy Father, receiving letters of approval from the high priest (Pope) commanding according to a law of the fathers to murder those who do not bow down to a earthly authority as it is written (sola scriptura)

Those kind of fathers (two kinds) having a pagan foundation based on what the eyes see the temporal dying (out of sight out of mind )as in who believes in a Holy Father not seen (no vison from sola scriptura),

Acts 22King James Version22 Men, brethren, and fathers, hear ye my defense which I make now unto you. (And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence: and he saith,) I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward( falsely) God, as ye all are this day And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women. As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them (Christians) which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished.

They as a law of dying mankind went after born again Paul and tried to judge him according to thier law oral traditons of dying sinners, He turned around led by our Holy Father and revealed the the power of any reformation .(sola scriptura) Paul rather than worshiping or venerating a legion of dying fathers (patron saints )he worshiped on God

Paul worshiped the one God as our Holy Father. the invisible head our one and only Holy Father.

Acts 24:5 For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes:Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law

Acts 24:13-14 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

The pattern for any reformation whenever where ever when two or three again the under the power of his name (sola scriptura) a family. The smallest denomination same power that works in all born again of the incorruptible seed (Christ) sola scriptura

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.(born agin)

Why seek after a legion of fathers dying mankind. .What's the hope in that?

Yes or no. Is sola scriptura a heresy according to a law of God ? .What do you say today ? Trust, Sola Rosary?

 

[His clay]

The apostolic church does not err and does not require sacred scripture to know the truth!

The church wrote the New Testament by the inspiration of the Spirit

Blatant falsehood regarding the idea of an inerrant apostolic church. Peter stood condemned. He erred. Paul confronted him face to face.

"But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned." (Galatians 2:11 ESV)

Peter erred so significantly that Paul had to include in his introduction the following,

"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:8 ESV)

The Satanic cult of Catholicism erred so significantly that they lost the gospel itself, and thankfully the reformers brought us back to the word of God away from the Catholic cult. As inspired scripture has declared, and the reformers practice, we have rejected the contrary Satanic gospel of the Catholic cult. Obedience to God's word is very important, especially with regard to eternal matters relating to the gospel.

 

[donadams]

Blatant falsehood regarding the idea of an inerrant apostolic church. Peter stood condemned. He erred. Paul confronted him face to face.

"But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned." (Galatians 2:11 ESV)

Peter erred so significantly that Paul had to include in his introduction the following,

"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:8 ESV)

The Satanic cult of Catholicism erred so significantly that they lost the gospel itself, and thankfully the reformers brought us back to the word of God away from the Catholic cult. As inspired scripture has declared, and the reformers practice, we have rejected the contrary Satanic gospel of the Catholic cult. Obedience to God's word is very important, especially with regard to eternal matters relating to the gospel.

In matters of discipline not doctrine

 

[Arch Stanton]

The Satanic cult of Catholicism erred so significantly that they lost the gospel itself, and thankfully the reformers brought us back to the word of God away from the Catholic cult.

So let me get this straight.... God waits over one thousand five hundred years to clean up the mess?

 

[donadams]

Strawman.

By now you know better, too. Just for starters, "faith alone" does not mean that faith IS alone, but that one is not saved by works.

Faith alone does not mean faith is alone!

What else is there then?

Why don’t you obey Christ and let your yes be yes and your no be no?

You don’t say what you mean, and you don’t mean what you say!

 

[makesends]

Faith alone does not mean faith is alone!

What else is there then?

Why don’t you obey Christ and let your yes be yes and your no be no?

You don’t say what you mean, and you don’t mean what you say!

Are you trolling here?

Let me try again, since you want to play. Faith alone does not mean Faith IS Alone, except in one matter. Salvation is only by grace through faith.

Taking your logic as valid, one may as well say that for faith to be alone, it must be all that exists,; but it is more than obvious that is not what is meant by "Faith Alone".

 

[donadams]

Are you trolling here?

Let me try again, since you want to play. Faith alone does not mean Faith IS Alone, except in one matter. Salvation is only by grace through faith.

Taking your logic as valid, one may as well say that for faith to be alone, it must be all that exists,; but it is more than obvious that is not what is meant by "Faith Alone".

Then stop saying alone!

If faith alone is not alone then why insist on the statement “faith alone”?

Just say faith is required!

Salvation is not only by grace thru faith alone!

Repentance
Baptism
The spirit

Are necessary and it’s not salvation but justification which is only part of salvation

Salvation has five parts!

Redemption
Justification
Sanctification
Purification
Glorification

Thks

 

[makesends]

Then stop saying alone!

If faith alone is not alone then why insist on the statement “faith alone”?

Just say faith is required!

Salvation is not only by grace thru faith alone!

Repentance
Baptism
The spirit

Are necessary and it’s not salvation but justification which is only part of salvation

Salvation has five parts!

Redemption
Justification
Sanctification
Purification
Glorification

Thks

I could add a lot of things to "salvation". You are purposely missing the point of the five solas. Enough already! I see you don't want to discuss what they are about.

 

[donadams]

You obviously have no idea what reformed means.

Of course.

I have been asking for months and no one seems to know, maybe you can tell me?

 

[donadams]

Blatant falsehood regarding the idea of an inerrant apostolic church. Peter stood condemned. He erred. Paul confronted him face to face.

"But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned." (Galatians 2:11 ESV)

Peter erred so significantly that Paul had to include in his introduction the following,

"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:8 ESV)

The Satanic cult of Catholicism erred so significantly that they lost the gospel itself, and thankfully the reformers brought us back to the word of God away from the Catholic cult. As inspired scripture has declared, and the reformers practice, we have rejected the contrary Satanic gospel of the Catholic cult. Obedience to God's word is very important, especially with regard to eternal matters relating to the gospel.

What happened to your faith in Christ and the Holy Spirit?

Matt 16:18-19 shall not prevail!
Jn 16:13 Lead into all truth!
Matt 28:19 teach all men!
Acts 1:8 witnesses

The church is subject unto Christ!
Eph 5:24
The church and Christ are one! Acts 9:4 Jn 15:5 eph 5:32

The apostolic church is of divine origin and has the truth, those in opposition are full of errors and the tradition of men! 1 Jn 4:6

Christ and His church are the truth!
Jn 1:16-17 & 14:6
1 Tim 3:15

Christ is the Light (truth) of the world! Jn 8:12
Apostolic church Light of the world! Matt 5:14
Must Hear Christ! Matt 17:5 acts 3:22
Must hear the church! Matt 18:17
Christ and his apostolic church teach the same truth! Lk 10:16

Thanks

 

[donadams]

I could add a lot of things to "salvation". You are purposely missing the point of the five solas. Enough already! I see you don't want to discuss what they are about.

Do you know? Why not just tell me then? Why the games

 

[makesends]

Do you know? Why not just tell me then? Why the games

It is you who are playing games. My meaning was more than clear enough. This is no game, and your trolling has gone on long enough.

 

[donadams]

It is you who are playing games. My meaning was more than clear enough. This is no game, and your trolling has gone on long enough.

Seeking the truth ain’t tollin!

 

[Arial]

Seeking the truth ain’t tollin!

Why do you say you are seeking truth, and among those you already don't believe to boot. Just go ask your priest.

 

[David1701]

So let me get this straight.... God waits over one thousand five hundred years to clean up the mess?

Not at all! There have always been, throughout church history, groups of genuine Christians who have refused to come under the authority of the office of anti-Christ (the so-called "Pope" - a title of blasphemy). Of course, the Whore of Babylon (Catholicism) persecuted, hounded, tortured and killed those Christians, burning their Bibles and their other books, because that is the nature of The Whore. By their fruits you will know them.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Not at all! There have always been, throughout church history, groups of genuine Christians who have refused to come under the authority of the office of anti-Christ (the so-called "Pope" - a title of blasphemy). Of course, the Whore of Babylon (Catholicism) persecuted, hounded, tortured and killed those Christians, burning their Bibles and their other books, because that is the nature of The Whore. By their fruits you will know them.

I'll just respond to one of your Wilhelm fantasies....

The seven hills of Rome are separate from Vatican Hill. So, trying to fit a square peg in a round hole will not work.... 7+1=8, not 7

 

[donadams]

Why do you say you are seeking truth, and among those you already don't believe to boot. Just go ask your priest.

Can you be saved without a priest?

I sent you many things are you going to reply or give up?